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Democrats wary of emerging bipartisan infrastructure deal

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Progressive Democrats are wary of an emerging deal on infrastructure being negotiated by five Republican and five Democratic senators, fearing it could make it tougher to get prized priorities to President Biden’s desk.

The progressives are specifically worried that passing a bipartisan infrastructure package consisting of the most popular infrastructure spending priorities — such as funding for roads, bridges, rail, public transport, airports and rural broadband internet — will make it tougher to marshal support for a bigger reconciliation package down the road.

That bigger package could include many progressive prizes, such as climate change legislation, $400 billion for long-term home care and language to lower the cost of prescription drugs.

 

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I wonder if the democrats realize that negotiating is part of the process which is good because it comes up with more of a consensus of what America wants in a infrastructure bill or indeed what infrastructure is?  In my mind it is roads, bridges, trains, updated power utilities, etc.  Not long term home care and prescription drug costs.  Not that those are issues that shouldn't probably be addressed but on their own.

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Desertrat56
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7 minutes ago, OverSword said:

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I wonder if the democrats realize that negotiating is part of the process which is good because it comes up with more of a consensus of what America wants in a infrastructure bill or indeed what infrastructure is?  In my mind it is roads, bridges, trains, updated power utilities, etc.  Not long term home care and prescription drug costs.  Not that those are issues that shouldn't probably be addressed but on their own.

I want to know what democrats.   Who is against bipartisan anything, especially an even split of the parties?   All the democrats that are worried about this are going to find themselves, along with republicans that can't reach "across the aisle" to accomplish things replaced by independents.   That is what should worry them.

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susieice

I thought this whole infrastructure deal was proposed by Biden. I could be wrong. 

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57 minutes ago, OverSword said:

I wonder if the democrats realize that negotiating is part of the process which is good because it comes up with more of a consensus of what America wants

I honestly believe that they want to obligate funds to be able to spread cash around far into the future because they KNOW they aren't going to be in power for long.  Manchin and Sinema better watch their back.  They are all that stands between the hard Left and their Blutopia.

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Tatetopa

China is committed to spending 1-2 trillion dollars on Belt and Road projects by 2027.  on what most would consider pretty traditional infrastructure projects.   In addition to that, they have committed internal funds to dominate chip manufacture, AI, batteries, and solar panels,  They are loaning out their expertise and resources to spread their trading tendrils throughout Asia and Europe.  As long as somebody keeps us fighting among ourselves, they have a free hand in the rest of the world.  Its pretty hard to be First when you drop out of the race.

https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/chinas-massive-belt-and-road-initiative

I am pretty sure there won't be a Blutopia, but there are likely to be a lot of red slums. 

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spartan max2
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11 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

China is committed to spending 1-2 trillion dollars on Belt and Road projects by 2027.  on what most would consider pretty traditional infrastructure projects.   In addition to that, they have committed internal funds to dominate chip manufacture, AI, batteries, and solar panels,  They are loaning out their expertise and resources to spread their trading tendrils throughout Asia and Europe.  As long as somebody keeps us fighting among ourselves, they have a free hand in the rest of the world.  Its pretty hard to be First when you drop out of the race.

https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/chinas-massive-belt-and-road-initiative

I am pretty sure there won't be a Blutopia, but there are likely to be a lot of red slums. 

US senate passed a bipartisan bill of 2.3 trillion to counter China's tech advancements. 

https://amp-usatoday-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/7415962002?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA%3D%3D#aoh=16234451203867&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.usatoday.com%2Fstory%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2F2021%2F06%2F08%2Fsenate-passes-technology-research-bill-compete-china%2F7415962002%2F

Edit: the 2.3 trillion might be wrong actually.

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53 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

I am pretty sure there won't be a Blutopia, but there are likely to be a lot of red slums. 

Last time I checked, the CCP isn't playing Saint Nick to the world and they aren't 30 trillion in debt and printing more every day.  By the standards of those who inhabit these blue bastions, red cities and states are already slums.  I live in a location that is considered to be far less "worthy" than their parts of the nation.  They are welcome to their opinions.  I'll be insulated from the chaos we'll see in those cities once the collapse finally occurs.

Perhaps someone here will explain the "new economics" to me rather than predictably denying any responsibility by the DC Left for that collapse.  I won't hold my breath.

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Desertrat56
15 minutes ago, and then said:

Last time I checked, the CCP isn't playing Saint Nick to the world and they aren't 30 trillion in debt and printing more every day.  By the standards of those who inhabit these blue bastions, red cities and states are already slums.  I live in a location that is considered to be far less "worthy" than their parts of the nation.  They are welcome to their opinions.  I'll be insulated from the chaos we'll see in those cities once the collapse finally occurs.

Perhaps someone here will explain the "new economics" to me rather than predictably denying any responsibility by the DC Left for that collapse.  I won't hold my breath.

What new economics are you talking about?   The only thing that has changed is that the inflation is being blamed on a virus.

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Tatetopa
42 minutes ago, and then said:

Last time I checked, the CCP isn't playing Saint Nick to the world and they aren't 30 trillion in debt and printing more every day. 

Check again.  CCP is giving loans, grants, and material development aid to 68 countries to expand their belt and road trading network. 

I am not looking for a socialist state or non-compromising Democrats.  Both parties should direct and compromise on progress not freeze it or regress to the past.

Want to stop printing money?  Simple.  Change the tax laws.   The 2017 reset was widely cheered, but increased the deficit. and decreased  tax income.

Trickle down does not work.  McConnel's idea to make middle class pay for everything is not fair.

Keep the max rate where it is if you still believe in trickle down.  Raise corporate minimum and billionaire tax from 0% to 10% .  That is still less than many of us pay. 

We don't need socialism.  We don't need to take everything from billionaires and give it to the poor, that makes no sense.  It also makes no sense for the wealthy to think they are above taxes as they are above the law.

I don't know whose opinion you are worried about.  There are decent people and jerks on both sides.  

Why do you think less "worthy" anyway?

 

 

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