Trump's Big Lie about 2020 results suffers legal and political blows in key swing states

[psyche101]

2 hours ago, Will Due said:

"And, behold, many who are first will be last, and those who are last will many times be first.”

Dams that sounds stupid. What the heck did you hope to accomplish with that silliness? 

[el midgetron]

48 minutes ago, Manwon Lender said:

I am sorry but obviously your misinformed and the bolded statement above in inaccurate. Since he started working for his father in the late 1960s he has been tainted with open and intentionally discrimination against minorities. In the 1970s him and father were prosecuted for violating housing regulations, for intentionally not renting to Black Americans which they paid a very large settlement  for.

He was also again charged for discrimination against Hispanic and Black American employees in the 1980s and 1990s at his businesses  for civil rights violations concerning employment practices, which he also paid settlements for. Trump was a closet White Supremacist his entire life, most likely a trait taught by his father. But in 2012 with the Obama Birther escapade he stepped out of the closet became an open White Supremacist and actions during his Presidency only enhanced this image. 

So if you call that loved, I am unable to understand you use of the word!

JIMO

None of that addresses the text you bolded.
 

Perhaps you are to young to remember but I’m not. I’m remember Trump being invited on talk shows and treated as an interesting person. I remember him having cameos in TV shows and Movies. I remember him being the host of a TV show. I remember him being on the covers on magazines in a positive light.

 

i suppose you could argue that the MSM and entertainment industry knew he was Cheeto-Hitler all along but kept quite and protected him the same way they did with Harvey Weinstein while he was raping women. However, claiming I am misinformed and inaccurate can be disproved by browsing his IMDB page.

 

Edited July 26, 2021 by el midgetron

[Agent0range]

1 hour ago, el midgetron said:

It’s objective reporting like that has shot the MSM’s credibility with Trump supporters. 
 

For decades Trump was loved by the media and Celebrities. Then as soon as he threatened the political status quo he became the Cheeto-Hitler. 

No, it's not objective.  Trump was the political status quo.  He has long been pro abortion.  Supporting democrats.  But, as a power hungry man, he noticed this niche society that he could infiltrate, by saying things he didn't even believe.  If you think that a man that has affairs with porn stars is anti-abortion...well...I guess you'll believe anything.

[Gromdor]

Just now, Agent0range said:

No, it's not objective.  Trump was the political status quo.  He has long been pro abortion.  Supporting democrats.  But, as a power hungry man, he noticed this niche society that he could infiltrate, by saying things he didn't even believe.  If you think that a man that has affairs with porn stars is anti-abortion...well...I guess you'll believe anything.

Yeah, there is this: Wasn't Trump once pro-choice? Here's the president's evolving platform on abortion. (mic.com)

 

[el midgetron]

I’m all for a more moralistic society, especially in our leadership. However, if you think I’m going to go along with being called a deplorable or be shamed for clinging to my Bible and guns rather than vote for the guy who had sex with a porn star, you are mistaken. 
 

Get back to me about moral outrage over consensual sex between two consenting adults once the political left has denounced chemically castrating children.

Edited July 26, 2021 by el midgetron

[el midgetron]

8 minutes ago, Gromdor said:

Yeah, there is this: Wasn't Trump once pro-choice? Here's the president's evolving platform on abortion. (mic.com)

 

Yeah, he realized abortion is wrong. People change their minds.

[Gromdor]

Just now, el midgetron said:

Yeah, he realized abortion is wrong. People change their minds.

Exactly-  Now you can understand why Trump isn't liked how he was in the past like you remember as well.

[el midgetron]

9 minutes ago, Gromdor said:

Exactly-  Now you can understand why Trump isn't liked how he was in the past like you remember as well.

No. People change their minds. Abortion doesn’t explain the creation of Cheeto-Hitler. 
 

in order for your explanation to be accurate, the MSM and entertainment industry would have to be fanatically radical activists. Again, these are the same people who protected a rapist. We are supposed to believe they turned on Trump because he didn’t support Democrats and abortion?

 

 

Edited July 26, 2021 by el midgetron

[Gromdor]

Just now, el midgetron said:

No. People change their minds. Abortion doesn’t explain the creation of Cheeto-Hitler. 
 

in order for your explanation to be accurate, the MSM and entertainment industry would have to be fanatically radicle activists. Again, these are the same people who protected a rapist. We are supposed to believe they turned on Trump because he didn’t support Democrats and abortion?

 

 

Trump is just an odious man.  It seems like everyone that is around him dislikes him.  It explains the why the media dislikes him more than some fantasic theory that they are all in cahoots.  There is no evidence that shows otherwise and you yourself have said that people (including Trump) change.

[el midgetron]

Yeah, the MSM and entertainment industry didn’t change when he stopped supporting abortion and Democrats. They changed their minds about Trump when he decided to run for President with a platform of putting America First.

[Gromdor]

6 minutes ago, el midgetron said:

Yeah, the MSM and entertainment industry didn’t change when he stopped supporting abortion and Democrats. They changed their minds about Trump when he decided to run for President with a platform of putting America First.

You are just too full of sour grapes.

You know, the world isn't a nice place and leaders need to be able to handle stress and more.  If something like negative press can bring someone down into a blubbering crybaby then that guy was never really leader material.

The guy goes on TV and constantly cries about how it is "unfair" and how everyone is mean to him.   It just makes me want to say, "Well duh, Mr. Silverspoon Billionaire, life isn't fair.  Welcome to the real world."

[el midgetron]

Ok, so I guess your point is that the MSM changed their minds about Trump because I’m full of sour grapes? I guess sour grapes are my really lame superpower?

i think I’ll try using my sour grapes superpower to end this tangent in favor of a return to the original topic. You are welcome to the last word here.

Edited July 26, 2021 by el midgetron

[acidhead]

41 minutes ago, el midgetron said:

Yeah, the MSM and entertainment industry didn’t change when he stopped supporting abortion and Democrats. They changed their minds about Trump when he decided to run for President with a platform of putting America First.

They changed their minds after Trump murdered Jeb Bush in the R's primary. 

And it was absolutely glorious watching him do it!!!! 

[acidhead]

1 hour ago, el midgetron said:

No. People change their minds. Abortion doesn’t explain the creation of Cheeto-Hitler. 
 

in order for your explanation to be accurate, the MSM and entertainment industry would have to be fanatically radical activists. Again, these are the same people who protected a rapist. We are supposed to believe they turned on Trump because he didn’t support Democrats and abortion?

 

 

This reminds me of then-candidate Obama who believed marriage was between a man and a woman. Of course, he fell in line as well, to gain votes. They ALL change their minds and pander to demographics.  

Obama blamed half his presidency on GWB and rightly so for the debacle of Afghanistan and the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq. 

Yet fast forward to Trumps presidency and GWB and Michelle Obama are practically having a love affair anytime seen together in public.   

Trump used to be great friends with the Clinton's. 

It's possible he's the greatest heel ever in politics or entertainment for that matter.

The power structure remains intact at the top. 

 

[Agent0range]

1 hour ago, el midgetron said:

I’m all for a more moralistic society, especially in our leadership. However, if you think I’m going to go along with being called a deplorable or be shamed for clinging to my Bible and guns rather than vote for the guy who had sex with a porn star, you are mistaken. 
 

Get back to me about moral outrage over consensual sex between two consenting adults once the political left has denounced chemically castrating children.

You got it all wrong.  You aren't deplorable for clinging to your guns and bible.  I don't care about your morals.  But don't tout your morals while touting a morally corrupt man.  I don't care if you have an 8some with 3 guys, 3 girls, and a non-binary them, and then pay for the abortion afterwards.  Your morals mean nothing to me, and my morals should mean nothing to you.  That's the point.  I know it's legal now..but it's just like gay marriage.  It doesn't affect me, therefore, I don't care if they get married.  BUT, when the right is against it while supporting a known adulterer to the point of breaking down the doors to the capitol, it seems very hypocritical, and makes your beliefs seem like nothing more than bigotry.  

[Will Due]

2 hours ago, psyche101 said:

Dams that sounds stupid. What the heck did you hope to accomplish with that silliness? 

 

I know you have a hard time understanding so I'll put in simpler terms for you.

Recently there's been a trend in sports where athletes are competing against girls. 

They often come in first place but in reality, they're last.

 

 

[psyche101]

11 minutes ago, Will Due said:

I know you have a hard time understanding so I'll put in simpler terms for you.

What makes you think comprehension is the issue? It's not. Application is.

11 minutes ago, Will Due said:

Recently there's been a trend in sports where athletes are competing against girls. 

They often come in first place but in reality, they're last.

So the same nonsense worded differently? 

How do hermaphrodites fit into your scenario? 

[Grim Reaper 6]

2 hours ago, el midgetron said:

None of that addresses the text you bolded.
 

Perhaps you are to young to remember but I’m not. I’m remember Trump being invited on talk shows and treated as an interesting person. I remember him having cameos in TV shows and Movies. I remember him being the host of a TV show. I remember him being on the covers on magazines in a positive light.

 

i suppose you could argue that the MSM and entertainment industry knew he was Cheeto-Hitler all along but kept quite and protected him the same way they did with Harvey Weinstein while he was raping women. However, claiming I am misinformed and inaccurate can be disproved by browsing his IMDB page.

 

The only popularity he ever had he paid for, this guy is so narcissistic he had to make a fake Time Magzine cover with his picture on and place it in his Businesses at prime locations for all to see. As far as being too young to remember, .I don't think so, my friend I was born in 1959, and while I young I still remember watching the Kennedy Assasination on TV.  As fas as Harvey Wienstein is concerned I am glad you brought that up. 

Trump and Weinstein were Bosom Buddies, just like Trump and Jeffery Epstein were, yea Trump sure kept a number of sexual predators around as friends, and Trump still worships Epsteins head Maddam. Yea, it begs to question how many times was Trump on Epsteins Island, the thought of Trumps own predatory behavior which he is in current litigation over makes me wonder how many others sexual crimes he was involved in. 

Please do not insult my intelligence by saying your proof is on Trumps IMDB page. Trump had a hand in putting the information there in print. That's like ask Trump if any of the accusations are true, the man is a prolific serial pathological liar, who has no Honor. Honestly no disrespect intended but, but your comments in the post above and the first post I quoted do not pass the reality or common sense test. 

JIMO

[acidhead]

38 minutes ago, Agent0range said:

You got it all wrong.  You aren't deplorable for clinging to your guns and bible.  I don't care about your morals.  But don't tout your morals while touting a morally corrupt man.  I don't care if you have an 8some with 3 guys, 3 girls, and a non-binary them, and then pay for the abortion afterwards.  Your morals mean nothing to me, and my morals should mean nothing to you.  That's the point.  I know it's legal now..but it's just like gay marriage.  It doesn't affect me, therefore, I don't care if they get married.  BUT, when the right is against it while supporting a known adulterer to the point of breaking down the doors to the capitol, it seems very hypocritical, and makes your beliefs seem like nothing more than bigotry.  

Not everybody in the right is against gay marriage. 

Candidate Obama used to believe marriage was between a man and a woman. 

Sexual orientation,  religion and race(what ever that means) are used to divide us.

[Golden Duck]

29 minutes ago, Will Due said:

 

I know you have a hard time understanding so I'll put in simpler terms for you.

Recently there's been a trend in sports where athletes are competing against girls. 

They often come in first place but in reality, they're last.

 

 

Your quote was the final verse from Jesus' Parable Of The Worker.  Look at the verses that lead up to this (Matthew 20:11-15):

Quote

[11]On receiving their pay, they began to grumble against the landowner. [12]‘These men who were hired last worked only one hour,’ they said, ‘and you have made them equal to us who have borne the burden and the scorching heat of the day.’

[13]But he answered one of them, ‘Friend, I am not being unfair to you. Did you not agree with me on one denarius? [14]Take your pay and go. I want to give this last man the same as I gave you. [15]Do I not have the right to do as I please with what is mine? Or are you envious because I am generous?’

Here we see your humility in waving around scripture as a crutch for your own insecurities; while trying to hide that you're quoting from a parable that essentially ends with "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs."

It raises the question: How long go ye limping between the two sides?

And another, perhaps more pertinent - Did you even know?

 

[Tatetopa]

2 hours ago, acidhead said:

Sexual orientation,  religion and race(what ever that means) are used to divide us.

Who is using it to divide us? Why would they do that?  Maybe to try and stay in power? 

[lightly]

13 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

Here is another thought for you.  Trump's justice department had 4 years to get the goods on Hillary.  I was kinda hoping they would.   No evidence, no case,or  totally Incompetent?

Hunter Biden?  Could have been a good issue.  DOJ had months to explore that.  They worked for President Trump at the time not Biden.   No evidence, no case, or incompetent?  Some TV Moron claims he lost the revealing  data in the mail.  Rudy never supplied the backup.  Again with  Rudy?  He never ceases to underperform for his most important client. 

Election fraud?  Rudy and Sydney never produced any evidence, all hot air.  Reliability of the Arizona Audit is not enhanced by amateur Morons looking for bamboo fibers or secret UV watermarks or claiming the ballots were fed to chickens then burned. Voting Machine manipulation?  Some other Moron claims to have the data and will present it on Aug. 13.but wasted the last 2 months claiming he had it.  If he had real data and had shown it, this event would have been over. 

Why does this man Trump attract so many morons and so few competent employees?

 

Trump attracts ass kissers.   His 'go to' policy for dealing with competent ,rational, non ass kissers is...  YOUR FIRED !!!

[el midgetron]

10 hours ago, Agent0range said:

You got it all wrong.  You aren't deplorable for clinging to your guns and bible.  I don't care about your morals.  But don't tout your morals while touting a morally corrupt man.  I don't care if you have an 8some with 3 guys, 3 girls, and a non-binary them, and then pay for the abortion afterwards.  Your morals mean nothing to me, and my morals should mean nothing to you.  That's the point.  I know it's legal now..but it's just like gay marriage.  It doesn't affect me, therefore, I don't care if they get married.  BUT, when the right is against it while supporting a known adulterer to the point of breaking down the doors to the capitol, it seems very hypocritical, and makes your beliefs seem like nothing more than bigotry.  

I’m not touting my morals. I’m also not the one who brought the immorality of sex with a porn star into this. I’ll be the first to admit my imperfection.

first you say you don’t care about my morals then you claim my morals should prevent me of supporting Trump because Orange Man bad. 

Trump is not responsible for the morons and ******* that that ran amuck at the capitol.

 

[preacherman76]

3 hours ago, lightly said:

Trump attracts ass kissers.   His 'go to' policy for dealing with competent ,rational, non ass kissers is...  YOUR FIRED !!!

Every president tries to surround themselves with people who are going to support them. Trump is the only president in history of whom this is seen as a bad thing. He didn’t even do that good of a job hiring yes men. 
 

It’s one improvement I’m certain we will see in 2024. Those who he decides to surround himself with. 
 

With the absolutely catastrophic job Biden is doing, it’s a wonder you guys still have so much time to talk Trump. 

[lightly]

1 hour ago, preacherman76 said:

Every president tries to surround themselves with people who are going to support them. Trump is the only president in history of whom this is seen as a bad thing. He didn’t even do that good of a job hiring yes men. 
 

It’s one improvement I’m certain we will see in 2024. Those who he decides to surround himself with. 
 

With the absolutely catastrophic job Biden is doing, it’s a wonder you guys still have so much time to talk Trump. 

I think they both suck...  But Trump probably fired more people than any president ever.  He demands loyalty !  not just "support".     He'll be completely insane by 2024..and unable to function in a coherent manner.