Trump's Big Lie about 2020 results suffers legal and political blows in key swing states

[+OverSword]

18 hours ago, el midgetron said:

Perhaps you are to young to remember but I’m not. I’m remember Trump being invited on talk shows and treated as an interesting person. I remember him having cameos in TV shows and Movies. I remember him being the host of a TV show. I remember him being on the covers on magazines in a positive light.

That was before he:

1. Started talking birther language after the media had decided you could no longer speak of that
2. Took Americas political elites favorite toy away from them
3. Covid 
4. 

[preacherman76]

35 minutes ago, lightly said:

I think they both suck...  But Trump probably fired more people than any president ever.  He demands loyalty !  not just "support".     He'll be completely insane by 2024..and unable to function in a coherent manner. 

 

Not even close. Many presidents clean house when they get in office. Heck Obama and Clinton completely cleaned house. 
 

Honestly lightly, I’ve always like you. You are a really good poster on these boards, especially in spiritual matters and such, but here, not only with you but most here on the left sounds like a bad rerun of CNN hit pieces. 

[lightly]

18 minutes ago, preacherman76 said:

Not even close. Many presidents clean house when they get in office. Heck Obama and Clinton completely cleaned house. 
 

Honestly lightly, I’ve always like you. You are a really good poster on these boards, especially in spiritual matters and such, but here, not only with you but most here on the left sounds like a bad rerun of CNN hit pieces. 

Thanks man.       Well, OK, but trump couldn't even get along with the ones he hired!     And Well, ya, sorta.  And 'you rightys'. 'sound like One America News and/ or Fox.    I think those ALL suck too.   They ,and both parties, represent different, (and many of the same too). ECONOMIC INTEREST$.  ..that fact is what keeps us so neatly ,and conveniently, DIVIDED.    Not ideology . 

Edited July 26, 2021 by lightly

[Vorg]

20 hours ago, Manwon Lender said:

I have a sincere and honest question to ask you. How can you as Spiritual person support a White Supremacist who has a history of discrimination and bigotry that goes all the way back to the 1960s. I am not a Christain which you are well aware of and I don't claim to understand the teachings of your particular branch of Christian doctrine, but I doubt you religious teaching supports White Supremacy. 

So how can you over look your religious beliefs and support a man who has proven he is racially motivated to inhibit minority Americans from being treated as equals in our country. Will, before you say this isn't true and look like a fool think about your response, because if you can't be honest I will post proof of my comments from the 1970-1990s and then to date. 

I will wait for your response. 

Trump is not a Christian as the Pope has called out. But he uses anything to his favor.

Trump uses people and when they no longer are deemed loyal or useful to him, he discards them.

Look at how Rudy Giuliani has disgraced himself, by going in front of several courts with obviously bogus claims in an effort to overturn the election for Trump, only to be disbarred in New York and Trump refuses to pay him for the election overturn effort.

Or how Mike Pence served in what I thought was a faithful Vice Presidency to Trump, only to be called weak, etc..

To all that believe in Trump, you refuse to open your eyes to a man even God would call an abomination.

Proverbs 6:16  These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: 

Proverbs 6:17  A proud look (Trump), a lying tongue (Trump), and hands that shed innocent blood, (January 6th will be wild!)

Proverbs 6:18  An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, (BLM is Marxist - straight from his administrations mouths; and not racial justice protesters.) feet that be swift in running to mischief, (And he wanted to send in troops to shoot them dead, and General Miley told him no)

Proverbs 6:19  A false witness that speaketh lies( He said Ilhan Omar supports Al Queda and other people he has smeared), and he that soweth discord among brethren. (And here we have someone whose followers are "patriots" and everyone else are "far left" "Marxist" "Communist" or just plain losers, in his words.) That is about as much sowing discord among brethren as you can get

Well, you are on the wrong side of the Bible and history concerning this man, and when the time comes I get to say, "I told you so."
 

[preacherman76]

Again, it’s like watching CNN in here. You guys buy every line of BS they throw at you. Literally every word. 

Edited July 26, 2021 by preacherman76

[acute]

1 hour ago, preacherman76 said:

Many presidents clean house when they get in office.

I wish Madge would clean the curtains in Buck House. They're a firkin disgrace!

[Vorg]

20 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

Here is another thought for you.  Trump's justice department had 4 years to get the goods on Hillary.  I was kinda hoping they would.   No evidence, no case,or  totally Incompetent?

Hunter Biden?  Could have been a good issue.  DOJ had months to explore that.  They worked for President Trump at the time not Biden.   No evidence, no case, or incompetent?  Some TV Moron claims he lost the revealing  data in the mail.  Rudy never supplied the backup.  Again with  Rudy?  He never ceases to underperform for his most important client. 

Election fraud?  Rudy and Sydney never produced any evidence, all hot air.  Reliability of the Arizona Audit is not enhanced by amateur Morons looking for bamboo fibers or secret UV watermarks or claiming the ballots were fed to chickens then burned. Voting Machine manipulation?  Some other Moron claims to have the data and will present it on Aug. 13.but wasted the last 2 months claiming he had it.  If he had real data and had shown it, this event would have been over. 

Why does this man Trump attract so many morons and so few competent employees?

 

Probably because he is a con man. His save America Pac and other fund raising endeavors have yielded him tens of millions of dollars, and zero has went to actually paying for any recounts.

It has all been used for slush funds. Oh, and don't forget to uncheck that recurring donation box, if you do donate.

Of Course Trump Has Scammed Millions From His Not-Very-Bright Supporters | Vanity Fair

[preacherman76]

3 minutes ago, South Alabam said:

Probably because he is a con man. His save America Pac and other fund raising endeavors have yielded him tens of millions of dollars, and zero has went to actually paying for any recounts.

It has all been used for slush funds. Oh, and don't forget to uncheck that recurring donation box, if you do donate.

Of Course Trump Has Scammed Millions From His Not-Very-Bright Supporters | Vanity Fair

Don’t forget how he drinks the blood of the innocent children. 
 

You know, I’d even be able to tolerate all this hatred if you guys suddenly used this new high power perception on all our leaders. But no, sadly you keep trying to stab the pup, while reaching over the real wolves to do so. 

[Tatetopa]

3 minutes ago, preacherman76 said:

Don’t forget how he drinks the blood of the innocent children. 
 

You know, I’d even be able to tolerate all this hatred if you guys suddenly used this new high power perception on all our leaders. But no, sadly you keep trying to stab the pup, while reaching over the real wolves to do so. 

No he does not.  He is a grifter not a vampire.  He may not care if they die and probably shares that in common with many others in power.  Personally, I don't hate the guy, I just object to his continuous self-serving lies that have the side effect of harming the nation.  I can't think of any other public figure at the moment that as that much power.

All of our leaders should be held to scrutiny by facts, but not by infotainment personalities who want power and ratings for themselves.  Term limits and an end to lobbying would help immensely.  A reversal to Citizens United would make politics a lot less lucrative and prone to bribery.  

As your comments above seem to indicate, you believe liberals buy everything CNN says.  But conservatives are so smart they question everything EXCEPT statements by former President Trump. 

Facts would be good, not what CNN  or OAN says as poorly disguised opinion.

Was Nancy Pelosi solely in charge of capital security or did she share that responsibility with Mitch McConnel.  Did she do the smart thing and give the sergeant at arms power to make tactical decisions?  Why did the national guard take 3 hours to get there?  Were they waiting for orders to come from then President Trump  as detailed in his discussions with acting Sec, Def. of Jan.4 ?  Were they dispatched and expressly denied protective gear, firearms, and batons and wasted more time going back to the armory as orders seem to indicate?    Were capitol police ordered not to use maximum force on protesters?

Truth or fiction?  It would be good to know.  Will conservatives question everything until Tucker Carlson gives them the read on what they should believe?

 

[Grim Reaper 6]

1 hour ago, preacherman76 said:

Again, it’s like watching CNN in here. You guys buy every line of BS they throw at you. Literally every word. 

Preacherman, bow to your lord Trump!!

Edited July 26, 2021 by Manwon Lender

[Grim Reaper 6]

4 hours ago, OverSword said:

That was before he:

1. Started talking birther language after the media had decided you could no longer speak of that
2. Took Americas political elites favorite toy away from them
3. Covid 
4. 

[Will Due]

[psyche101]

5 hours ago, preacherman76 said:

Again, it’s like watching CNN in here. You guys buy every line of BS they throw at you. Literally every word. 

Lol

Considering the poor rumours you post as fact, and how quickly and often they are debunked, that's dead set hilarious. 

You're like a personified posting National Enquirer entity LOL. Or a live Facebook feed.

[el midgetron]

6 hours ago, South Alabam said:

Well, you are on the wrong side of the Bible and history concerning this man, and when the time comes I get to say, "I told you so."

 

When what time comes? Judgment day? The socialist purge? Or when they finally find something real to attack Trump with? Could be any day now, He’s been a high profile figure for decades, they were spying on him before the election and investigated him for the majority of his presidency. Don’t worry I’m sure that prosecutable dirty-deed is out there at the end of a rainbow somewhere.

Come judgement day I would rather have to answer for supporting Trump than pretty much any of the current hot-topic things leftists believe. 
 

 

[Vorg]

6 hours ago, preacherman76 said:

Again, it’s like watching CNN in here. You guys buy every line of BS they throw at you. Literally every word. 

According to multiple reports, Benett was denied entry after he shared analysis that showed initial results from Maricopa County were correct, confirming that President Joe Biden defeated Donald Trump in the state's largest county, Maricopa, helping propel him to victory in Arizona.

Stephen Richer, the Republican Maricopa County Recorder who has come out in vocal opposition to the audit, slammed Cyber Ninjas for barring Bennett from the counting room.

"The ONE person in the audit with ANY previous high-level involvement with election administration has now been kicked out. Why? Because the new ballot count matched Maricopa County's numbers, not the Ninjas'. The adult has left the room," Richer tweeted on Friday.

This is just one of many snags the audit — which election experts and Democrats alike have slammed as a sham — has faced.

Last week, Doug Logan, the Trump-supporting head of Cyber Ninjas who has pushed baseless accusations of fraud, falsely said there were "74,243 mail-in ballots where there is no clear record of them being sent."

That accusation was patently untrue, as those votes were actually cast early but in-person, according to a CNN fact check.

But Trump has since taken that lie and broadcast it to his followers, continuing in his effort to sow doubt in the electoral process and attempt to convince his followers that the 2020 election was stolen.

Arizona GOP audit leader says he may quit after being barred from vote-counting site (americanindependent.com)

Here you have what is happening in Arizona, and Trump running with these things as facts. And you want to say this is BS? At what point do you just open your eyes and say Trump is the deceptive liar? Just walk away.

Edited July 27, 2021 by South Alabam

[el midgetron]

6 hours ago, South Alabam said:

Probably because he is a con man. His save America Pac and other fund raising endeavors have yielded him tens of millions of dollars, and zero has went to actually paying for any recounts.

It has all been used for slush funds. Oh, and don't forget to uncheck that recurring donation box, if you do donate.

Of Course Trump Has Scammed Millions From His Not-Very-Bright Supporters | Vanity Fair

If that’s true (and it’s probably not based on the the past five years) but if that’s true it seems that would only lower him to the level of your average politician. I’m not saying that’s good or acceptable it would also be less a than shocking.

[Vorg]

2 minutes ago, el midgetron said:

When what time comes? Judgment day? The socialist purge? Or when they finally find something real to attack Trump with? Could be any day now, He’s been a high profile figure for decades, they were spying on him before the election and investigated him for the majority of his presidency. Don’t worry I’m sure that prosecutable dirty-deed is out there at the end of a rainbow somewhere.

Come judgement day I would rather have to answer for supporting Trump than pretty much any of the current hot-topic things leftists believe. 

He is continuing to spread lies of the election and undermining this countries election process. Watch what happens over the next few years. The DHS, the FBI, and other agencies are warning increased violence, and white supremist groups and actions are on the rise. He knows this and keeps spewing these lies. Yet when violence breaks out, he will take no blame for it, even though it was based on HIS lies.

If there is proof of election fraud as Trump keeps saying, then all Rudy Giuliani, Sydney Powell and Mike Lindell need to do is present the EXACT same evidence they presented to the courts to the American people to put to rest ANY doubt. But we know why they won't, because there isn't any.

And I am not saying I believe in anything the left stands for, but the GOP can certainly do better than Trump. Someone who doesn't use rhetoric or division. You know, his followers are "patriots" while the Democrats are Socialist, Marxist, Communist, losers and all the other dividing words he uses.

 

 

[Grim Reaper 6]

21 minutes ago, el midgetron said:

When what time comes? Judgment day? The socialist purge? Or when they finally find something real to attack Trump with? Could be any day now, He’s been a high profile figure for decades, they were spying on him before the election and investigated him for the majority of his presidency. Don’t worry I’m sure that prosecutable dirty-deed is out there at the end of a rainbow somewhere.

Come judgement day I would rather have to answer for supporting Trump than pretty much any of the current hot-topic things leftists believe. 
 

 

 

Edited July 27, 2021 by Manwon Lender

[Vorg]

5 minutes ago, el midgetron said:

If that’s true (and it’s probably not based on the the past five years) but if that’s true it seems that would only lower him to the level of your average politician. I’m not saying that’s good or acceptable it would also be less a than shocking.

It is true. One of our own members here gave to one of his pacs only to have missed the recurring donation box and had the same amount taken out again. He does these pacs every so often. And 2 of these have been in the last 9 months.

[el midgetron]

13 minutes ago, South Alabam said:

But Trump has since taken that lie and broadcast it to his followers, continuing in his effort to sow doubt in the electoral process and attempt to convince his followers that the 2020 election was stolen.

Trump is using his freedom of speech to express his opinion. 

 

 

[Grim Reaper 6]

2 minutes ago, el midgetron said:

Trump is using his freedom of speech to express his opinion. 

 

 

Yes he certainly does use his freedom of speech to support his true white supremacist and anti-Semitism views and he does so on a regular basis.

Donald Trump’s anti-Semitism and White Supremacist controversies: Donald Trump’s anti-Semitism controversies: A timeline | The Times of Israel 

[el midgetron]

5 minutes ago, South Alabam said:

And I am not saying I believe in anything the left stands for, but the GOP can certainly do better than Trump. Someone who doesn't use rhetoric or division. You know, his followers are "patriots" while the Democrats are Socialist, Marxist, Communist, losers and all the other dividing words he uses.

The Democrats openly campaign on Socialism. That’s a lie by Trump to sow division? Communism is just a more authoritarian form of socialism. Balkanizing  groups of people by race is what the Democrats are up to their necks in, psst that Marxism. 
 

Seriously, when protesters recently took to the streets of Cuba and we’re waving the American flag to protest their Communist dictatorship the Democrats told them to not come here. They will open the boarder for people looking for a government handout. However, people who have already lived under communism are not the demographic Democrats are interested in.

[el midgetron]

7 minutes ago, Manwon Lender said:

Donald Trump’s anti-Semitism and White Supremacist controversies: Donald Trump’s anti-Semitism controversies: A timeline | The Times of Israel 

I love how one of the example they give is that Trump campaigned on America First.  
 

Anyway, your article is from 2016….

Quote

On December 6, 2017 President Trump formally recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and stated that the American embassy would be moved from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_recognition_of_Jerusalem_as_capital_of_Israel
Trump delivered when others only broke promises. 

[psyche101]

37 minutes ago, el midgetron said:

If that’s true (and it’s probably not based on the the past five years) but if that’s true it seems that would only lower him to the level of your average politician. I’m not saying that’s good or acceptable it would also be less a than shocking.

Are you serious?

There's a Wikipedia page devoted to how many lies he told during his term.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veracity_of_statements_by_Donald_Trump

Ever heard of the Baja Condos debacle? Or how he treated Harry Dunn's parents?

Lower than low that one.

[Vorg]

34 minutes ago, psyche101 said:

Are you serious?

There's a Wikipedia page devoted to how many lies he told during his term.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veracity_of_statements_by_Donald_Trump

Ever heard of the Baja Condos debacle? Or how he treated Harry Dunn's parents?

Lower than low that one.

And lying is why I didn't vote for Hillary, so let's put this in to perspective of why I cannot stand Trump.

From your link: 

 

Here's the problem: As fact checker Glenn Kessler noted in August, whereas Clinton lies as much as the average politician, President Donald Trump's lying is "off the charts." No prominent politician in memory bests Trump for spouting spectacular, egregious, easily disproved lies. The birther claim. The vote fraud claim. The attendance at the inauguration claim. And on and on and on. Every fact checker – Kessler, Factcheck.org, Snopes.com, PolitiFact – finds a level of mendacity unequaled by any politician ever scrutinized. For instance, 70 percent of his campaign statements checked by PolitiFact were mostly false, totally false, or "pants on fire" false.^[95]

 

^{This man is fact checked on everything he says. There is an Army of people that do this.}

^{So for people to believe that when Trump speaks it is the truth without fact checking for themselves is well, just what I expect out of cult followers.}