"I think, therefore I am"

[oslove]

Attention, everyone human!

Try this mental experiment, which comes first: thinking or existing:

I think then I exist.

Or

I exist then I think.

 

My remark: Sad, there are humans who don't think - they shouldn't have existed, for the un-examined life is not worth living.

[jmccr8]

Alas,...woe is me for I am now an am not for I have not had a thought for days.. Oops scratch that I had to think about what I said.

[oslove]

4 hours ago, jmccr8 said:

Alas,...woe is me for I am now an am not for I have not had a thought for days.. Oops scratch that I had to think about what I said.

 

Not too late to start conducting yourself as a thinking person, instead of a feeling person only, then your life is worth living.

[lightly]

20 hours ago, oslove said:

Attention, everyone human!   Try this mental experiment, which comes first: thinking or existing:

I think then I exist.   Or    I exist then I think.

My remark: Sad, there are humans who don't think - they shouldn't have existed, for the un-examined life is not worth living.

That’s seems a bit harsh ,to me.      I don’t know at what age people begin ‘thinking’ instead of simply experiencing.   I seem to ,vaguely, remember my pre-thinking existence!   . . I was very very young at the time.    I’m thankful I existed long enough to develop ‘thinking,,as we understand the term.     Anyway, to respond to your mental experiment .. first… I exist, then, I think I exist. 

Edited July 5, 2022 by lightly

[jmccr8]

2 minutes ago, lightly said:

first… I exist, then, I think I exist. 

Hi Lightly

[lightly]

Howdy j !  

[Guyver]

A.I. computers can think and they exist. Scary to think what they may do to us when they think enough to have an existential crisis as people do.

[jmccr8]

11 hours ago, oslove said:

 

Not too late to start conducting yourself as a thinking person, instead of a feeling person only, then your life is worth living.

Hi Oslove

I am not a feelie kind of guy except in the right circumstances but that usually involves pillow talk.

Not sure if you understand what a joke is so for clarification the post you quoted was a joke

[+Desertrat56]

On 7/1/2021 at 4:00 AM, XenoFish said:

I like the idea of choosing my life's course, not just reacting to it. 

That sounds the opposite of weak to me.   Just reacting is what I consider weak.

[lightly]

Choosing and staying a course, in life, is good and very admirable…but sometimes life has a way of changing your course?  ..sometimes reacting to the changes takes some strength ?

[+Desertrat56]

1 minute ago, lightly said:

Choosing and staying a course, in life, is good and very admirable…but sometimes life has a way of changing your course?  ..sometimes reacting to the changes takes some strength ?

Well, I think being flexible is different than reacting to everything.   You have to be flexible because there are things that will knock you off course.

[XenoFish]

30 minutes ago, lightly said:

Choosing and staying a course, in life, is good and very admirable…but sometimes life has a way of changing your course?  ..sometimes reacting to the changes takes some strength ?

Not what my comment is about. Say that there are certain aspect of your character you wish to cultivate (make a habit of). Would you stay the course of deviate whenever the littlest bump in the road happens? 

Goals are a different thing. 

[oslove]

On 7/6/2022 at 3:51 AM, jmccr8 said:

Hi Oslove

I am not a feelie kind of guy except in the right circumstances but that usually involves pillow talk.

Not sure if you understand what a joke is so for clarification the post you quoted was a joke

 

Not really getting to what your point is at all.

Anyway, my point is that it is never too late to start conducting yourself as a thinking person, instead of a feeling person only, then your life is worth living.

From my stock knowledge of the psychology of human personality, a child reaches the age of reason at the age of seven or more, that is when he no longer depends on his papa and mama for all knowledge and behavior in life.

At that age he thinks for himself, and thinks according to reason, not accoring to feeling, that is why it is called the age of reason.

[jmccr8]

1 minute ago, oslove said:

 

Not really getting to what your point is at all.

Anyway, my point is that it is never too late to start conducting yourself as a thinking person, instead of a feeling person only, then your life is worth living.

From my stock knowledge of the psychology of human personality, a child reaches the age of reason at the age of seven or more, that is when he no longer depends on his papa and mama for all knowledge and behavior in life.

At that age he thinks for himself, and thinks according to reason, not accoring to feeling, that is why it is called the age of reason.

Hi Oslove

Go start a thread if you want to continue with this line of discussion otherwise stay on topic.

[oslove]

6 minutes ago, jmccr8 said:

Hi Oslove

Go start a thread if you want to continue with this line of discussion otherwise stay on topic.

 

I am on topic.

[jmccr8]

16 minutes ago, oslove said:

 

I am on topic.

Hi Oslove

Well to a point you are other than this thread is not based on god constructs and that is where you will go as you express the same cyclic(circular) argument in every thread you engage in which is why I have suggested you starting a thread. If it gets lonely in that thread and no responses then that would be a pretty good indication as to whether or not you inspire people to discuss with you.

[+Desertrat56]

25 minutes ago, oslove said:

 

I am on topic.

No, the topic is "I think, therefore I am",  has nothing to do with anything you have posted yet.   Like @jmccr8 said, start your own thread.

[XenoFish]

I think. Therefore I am. What am I that thinks? Am I the "i" ? Who am I really and why does what I think define this "I am-ness"?

[oslove]

2 hours ago, jmccr8 said:

Hi Oslove

Well to a point you are other than this thread is not based on god constructs and that is where you will go as you express the same cyclic(circular) argument in every thread you engage in which is why I have suggested you starting a thread. If it gets lonely in that thread and no responses then that would be a pretty good indication as to whether or not you inspire people to discuss with you.

 

You are not the owner of UM.

[oslove]

2 hours ago, Desertrat56 said:

No, the topic is "I think, therefore I am",  has nothing to do with anything you have posted yet.   Like @jmccr8 said, start your own thread.

 

You are mistaken, and you are not the owner of UM.

[jmccr8]

3 hours ago, oslove said:

 

You are not the owner of UM.

Hi Oslove

No I am not and neither am I inspired to discuss your side tracks in this thread. Good night

[lightly]

Sleep tight j.    …you’ll stop thinking sometime during the night as you enter a sound and restful sleep…no worries bud, you’ll still be AM…see ya in the morning* 

[jmccr8]

8 hours ago, lightly said:

Sleep tight j.    …you’ll stop thinking sometime during the night as you enter a sound and restful sleep…no worries bud, you’ll still be AM…see ya in the morning* 

Hi lightly

When I was sleeping I had no thoughts so I didn’t exist until I had a thought first thing this morning like coffee.

Oddly enough we also have the premise that if I did not dream in my sleep I had died and at 6am was reborn as the same old guy that died last night in the same body. So I had 4 cups of coffee just to make sure I was all systems go.

Edited July 8, 2022 by jmccr8

[ThirdEyePetal]

On 7/5/2022 at 8:24 PM, oslove said:

 

Not too late to start conducting yourself as a thinking person, instead of a feeling person only, then your life is worth living.

Morning Oslove, tis Saturday 10am here in the NZ .

A life worth living for sounds sublime .. How does one go about conducting ones self in a thinking manner to gain this life of worth .

What are the differences in a Thinking person and a Feeling person? 

After 7 yrs old is the kid on its own . No longer needing Mama or Papa certainly not Granpa or Granma coz pfft , He's reached reason .. what happens after 7yrs old ? 

[ThirdEyePetal]

29 minutes ago, jmccr8 said:

Hi lightly

When I was sleeping I had no thoughts so I didn’t exist until I had a thought first thing this morning like coffee.

Oddly enough we also have the premise that if I did not dream in my sleep I had died and at 6am was reborn as the same old guy that died last night in the same body. So I had 4 cups of coffee just to make sure I was all systems go.

I feel that .. well, i thought i felt that ,i think i felt that ..

Nope there it is again, twas a sound of bubbling laughter coming up from my belly, at least i thought it was .

Good morning. Loved the laughs.. Life is so worth living ..

I think  ..