glorybebe Posted July 9, 2021 #1 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Health expert says there is 'no doubt in my mind' that VACCINATED Americans are helping spread the Indian 'Delta' variant as Los Angeles and New York City see cases surge by up to 165% https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9773047/Health-expert-says-vaccinated-Americans-helping-spread-Indian-Delta-variant.html 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted July 9, 2021 #2 Share Posted July 9, 2021 1 minute ago, glorybebe said: Health expert says there is 'no doubt in my mind' that VACCINATED Americans are helping spread the Indian 'Delta' variant as Los Angeles and New York City see cases surge by up to 165% https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9773047/Health-expert-says-vaccinated-Americans-helping-spread-Indian-Delta-variant.html He used the phrase "we are probablly missing..." PROBABLY, it means he is guessing, no story here. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post glorybebe Posted July 9, 2021 Author Popular Post #3 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Just now, Desertrat56 said: He used the phrase "we are probablly missing..." PROBABLY, it means he is guessing, no story here. But, I have had people come into the store saying they have had their 2 shots, they are "safe". Getting the shots dies not mean invincible and not able to pass it on. A lot of clueless people out there 10 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted July 9, 2021 #4 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Just now, glorybebe said: But, I have had people come into the store saying they have had their 2 shots, they are "safe". Getting the shots dies not mean invincible and not able to pass it on. A lot of clueless people out there That's right but no one is keeping track of people after they get vaccinated unless they show up at the hospital so he has no data to base his guess on. Anything based on a guess is not valid. Yes, some have said that people who have been vaccinated might be contagious for a short time, but I have not heard that from any medical professional. Being vaccinated is Not 100% effective. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acute Posted July 10, 2021 #5 Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) After the required vaccine doses, it is possible to pass on Covid, even from an asymptomatic carrier. Edited July 10, 2021 by acute 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 10, 2021 #6 Share Posted July 10, 2021 1 hour ago, glorybebe said: Health expert says there is 'no doubt in my mind' that VACCINATED Americans are helping spread the Indian 'Delta' variant as Los Angeles and New York City see cases surge by up to 165% https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9773047/Health-expert-says-vaccinated-Americans-helping-spread-Indian-Delta-variant.html This story has been fact checked and it has been proven not to be true. I don't know who started this misinformation but it isn't true. Fact check: Delta variant, not 'vaccine shedding', behind surge in new COVID-19 cases https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/06/29/fact-check-delta-variant-not-vaccine-shedding-behind-new-covid-19-cases/5371995001/ But some on social media are claiming cases from the new strain is not due to the virus but shedding from COVID-19 vaccines. The tweet perpetuates a widely circulating, but grossly incorrect theory that the spike protein generated by the COVID-19 vaccines can somehow cause disease or be shed and affect surrounding unvaccinated individuals. Neither is possible. The COVID-19 vaccines simply help the body develop immunity against the virus, including against the Delta variant. I also did a complete update thread with all the new information 1 hour ago, Desertrat56 said: He used the phrase "we are probablly missing..." PROBABLY, it means he is guessing, no story here. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorybebe Posted July 10, 2021 Author #7 Share Posted July 10, 2021 I think what the problem is that so many different things come out in the news, contradicting information back and forth-who/what do you believe? One scientist says this, a doctor says that... 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 10, 2021 #8 Share Posted July 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, glorybebe said: I think what the problem is that so many different things come out in the news, contradicting information back and forth-who/what do you believe? One scientist says this, a doctor says that... Yes I agree with you completely, its very confusing with all the contradict stories that's why it important to only believe what the top medical authorities' are putting out. Take care and have a great day! 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorybebe Posted July 10, 2021 Author #9 Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Manwon Lender said: Yes I agree with you completely, its very confusing with all the contradict stories that's why it important to only believe what the top medical authorities' are putting out. Take care and have a great day! Even the top medical authorities flip flop. Fauci seems to change his opinion every week And you take care and have a good day, too Edited July 10, 2021 by glorybebe 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 10, 2021 #10 Share Posted July 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, glorybebe said: Even the top medical authorities flip flop. Fauci seems to change his opinion every week And you take care and have a good day, too So far I have found that the following sources are the most accurate. The Lancet, CDC, WHO, and John Hopkins Medical Center out side of those organizations, I dont really pay any attention to the rest. Take care 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Razman Posted July 10, 2021 #11 Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) Only thing is i read that CDC says dont need a mask , WHO says wear mask . Not sure if its true though. who says wear mask at DuckDuckGo cdc says no mask at DuckDuckGo Edited July 10, 2021 by razman 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorybebe Posted July 10, 2021 Author #12 Share Posted July 10, 2021 18 minutes ago, razman said: Only thing is i read that CDC says dont need a mask , WHO says wear mask . Not sure if its true though. who says wear mask at DuckDuckGo cdc says no mask at DuckDuckGo And then: Pfizer claims immunity from its Covid vaccine is starting to fade and wants THIRD dose to be dished out after six months - but British scientists insist there's no proof top-up is needed yet https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9772541/Pfizer-wants-dose-jab-dished-six-months-amid-fears-waning-immunity.html 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted July 10, 2021 #13 Share Posted July 10, 2021 I've had both shots and still wear a mask and use hand wash for now anyway 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted July 10, 2021 #14 Share Posted July 10, 2021 3 hours ago, glorybebe said: And then: Pfizer claims immunity from its Covid vaccine is starting to fade and wants THIRD dose to be dished out after six months - but British scientists insist there's no proof top-up is needed yet https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9772541/Pfizer-wants-dose-jab-dished-six-months-amid-fears-waning-immunity.html The US also says boosters are not necessary. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/fully-vaccinated-people-don-t-need-covid-boosters-u-s-n1273435 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted July 10, 2021 #15 Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, glorybebe said: Health expert says there is 'no doubt in my mind' that VACCINATED Americans are helping spread the Indian 'Delta' variant as Los Angeles and New York City see cases surge by up to 165% https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9773047/Health-expert-says-vaccinated-Americans-helping-spread-Indian-Delta-variant.html Curious it's happening in our largest international port cities.... Edited July 10, 2021 by Hammerclaw 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted July 10, 2021 #16 Share Posted July 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said: Curious it's happening our largest international port cities.... Hi Hammer We were one of the three international airports that were open during this first part of shut downs last year and had high infection rates 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Witness Posted July 10, 2021 #17 Share Posted July 10, 2021 54 minutes ago, closed for business said: I've had both shots and still wear a mask and use hand wash for now anyway Same here, I'm being cautious, in crowded grocery stores, in particular. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorybebe Posted July 10, 2021 Author #18 Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) I had 3 people pat my shoulder today, none of them wearing masks. Some people are acting like it never happened and it is all behind us Edited July 10, 2021 by glorybebe 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenHawk Posted July 10, 2021 #19 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Oh great, via untested nano technology, we are creating toxic human beings. I wonder what other diseases the vaccinated are shedding? I still think this is too early, I was expecting something like this to occur after a year or two. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted July 10, 2021 #20 Share Posted July 10, 2021 6 hours ago, glorybebe said: I think what the problem is that so many different things come out in the news, contradicting information back and forth-who/what do you believe? One scientist says this, a doctor says that... First and most important step to gain authentic information: ignore all tabloids. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted July 10, 2021 #21 Share Posted July 10, 2021 6 hours ago, Manwon Lender said: So far I have found that the following sources are the most accurate. The Lancet, CDC, WHO, and John Hopkins Medical Center out side of those organizations, Thanks. I use the same sources as well but mainly the information provided by the RKI (Robert Koch-Institut/Germany, which provides authentic and scientific based information also in english language) and Christian Drosten, our C19 guru here. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 10, 2021 #22 Share Posted July 10, 2021 16 minutes ago, toast said: Thanks. I use the same sources as well but mainly the information provided by the RKI (Robert Koch-Institut/Germany, which provides authentic and scientific based information also in english language) and Christian Drosten, our C19 guru here. Thanks, I will also check out those other Doctors, you can never have to many sources! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted July 10, 2021 #23 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Here a perfect example of tabloid BS: Quote Just ONE cup of coffee a day cuts the risk of falling ill with coronavirus by a tenth because it will 'turbocharge' your immune system, study finds mailonline "Study finds". Ok, but what study? 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted July 10, 2021 #24 Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) The simple fact is that--like flu--Covid variants are going to be with us forever. There's plans for upgraded Covid vaccine to be incorporated into annual flu inoculations. It goes without saying that those traveling abroad will be required to be inoculated. Covid, like other infectious viral diseases, is part of life, now and becoming fully domesticated. Edited July 10, 2021 by Hammerclaw 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightly Posted July 10, 2021 #25 Share Posted July 10, 2021 6 hours ago, glorybebe said: I had 3 people pat my shoulder today, none of them wearing masks. Some people are acting like it never happened and it is all behind us My wife told me that some slug brained old guy saw that she was wearing a mask...and so, faked a huge AHHHCHOOOO ! directly at her ...and Laughed ! 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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