Pelosi Rejects Republicans from Jan 6 Committee

[el midgetron]

 

7 hours ago, Manwon Lender said:

First of all calling me Bro is an insult, you don't know me or anything about me so please refrain from doing so in the future. 

The evidence is right in front of you and it has been since 6 Jan 2021. All it takes is to view the events that occurred and then use that amazing organ between your ears, I am certain you have the ability to think in depth to some extent, along with the ability to reason, that's all it takes Dude. 

I know your not a Rocket Scientist and neither am I but this is about nothing but simple common sense, and I am certain you have some!

No, it’s only right in from of YOU the not-rocket-scientist.
 

I see your common sense demonstrated above where you feign being offered because I know “nothing about you” then you turn around and make even more assumptions about myself. Dude. You are either a phony or you genuinely contradicted yourself, Either way, your common sense appears to be due for its scheduled maintenance. 
 

[Buzz_Light_Year]

4 minutes ago, el midgetron said:

You are either a phony

Gets my vote.

[el midgetron]

7 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

Lots of people did feel that BLM riots were threatening their safety.  For those in the vicinity, they certainly were.  True statement.

Wildfires on the West Coast destroy billions of dollars worth of Resources and kill dozens of people.  Hurricanes on the East Coast flood thousands of acres and kill many people.  

None of those had the express purpose of challenging the US Constitution, and the certification of an election.  It is not the cost in dollars or people threatened that make a coup, it is the purpose.

They set up barricades and seceded from the United States. Pretty sure that is a direct challenge to the US Constitution. You cannot reject the legal authority of the US and also honor it at the same time. 

Of course, no one believed that a bunch of clowns and their autonomous zone would overthrow the US. Just like no one really believed that a bunch of clowns running amok in the Capitol would be their future overlords. It’s just politically useful hyperbole. 

[el midgetron]

9 hours ago, Manwon Lender said:

Wow it's not surprising you would use such a site for source of information, it what .I have come to expect concerning your comments!

Thank God for the ability to fact check the nonsense people like you post.

I didn’t post anything that was non-factual. You didn’t fact check it, you dismissed factual information because you didn’t like the source. Very unsurprising.

[el midgetron]

5 hours ago, Manwon Lender said:

Why didn't you respond to comments about your sourced information, and you have the guts to talk about Conspiracy TheoriesI

Dude, put your Tin Foil Hat back on and go sit in the Corner!!!

Never mind I will make you a new one and I will post it every-time I respond to your misinformation / Conspiracies. Since you started posting in this forum section you have not posted a single truthful / Factual piece of information, now that says it all! 

See my previous response.

Do you have any actually thoughts about what I posted or do you contend it’s fake simply because of the source? You acknowledged you have the ability to fact-check perhaps you should.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.228457/gov.uscourts.dcd.228457.32.0_2.pdf

Edited July 28, 2021 by el midgetron

[RavenHawk]

8 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

Well good.  Trials in America are not supposed to be secret although this is an investigation, not a trial.

No, they are not supposed to but when has that stopped the Left?  This "investigation" IS the trial, because they know they won't be able to push it any further (They are that desperate).  It is very carefully choreographed.  This is not about finding out what happened, it's meant to bury the reason in propaganda to set precedence to effectively marginalize half the population.  This is about the 2022 and 2024 elections.  They are still afraid of Trump.  He lives rent free in their heads.  If the Left really wanted to find the root causes, they need go no further than their own corruption.  But they are too arrogant and above the law to realize what they are doing and the unintended consequences of their actions.

[Vorg]

3 hours ago, ExpandMyMind said:

They're far less significant.

After attending a Presidential rally, the supporters of a President on his way out, at his encouragement, stormed your seat of government with the intention of trying to reverse or overturn a Presidential election. They killed police and intended to kill and/or take hostage your current politicians.

I'm not sure you can overstate just how significant an event Jan 6th was to the US. No one living has seen such an attack on your country.

Most people haven't even begun to think about the amount of terrorists this event will have spawned.

Trump didn't do or say anything to incite these people according to his supporters.

This man thinks he is crafty when he speaks to avoid blame, but he isn't. I mean he told them to peacefully march down there, and they did peacefully march down there.

But once there, he knew what they were going to do.

I mean they went down there and fought, fought like hell, even killing Police in the melee. 

 

“Together we are determined to defend and preserve government of the people, by the people and for the people,” Trump said, adding that “we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.”

Before mob stormed US Capitol, Trump told them to ‘fight like hell’ (msn.com)

 

And he gleefully watched this riot for hours without intervening according to his ex staffers and other present that day. 

Rudy Giuliani helped stoke this crowd up, as well as Mo Brooks whom the justice department declined to shield and could be sued for his inciteful words that day.

To think Trump had no part in any of this from a crowd he personally called to D.C is laughable.

 

“We fight. We fight like hell. And if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.”

So did they stand there, or did they fight like hell, even killing that day?

[+Desertrat56]

10 hours ago, RavenHawk said:

Provided that they are more than Republicans in name only, oops, she got Rinos.

If they got elected as republicans that means the republican party in their state supported them, meaning they are owned by that group of republicans, which means they are republicans in more than name only.  You are so funny!

[RavenHawk]

14 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said:

If they got elected as republicans that means the republican party in their state supported them, meaning they are owned by that group of republicans, which means they are republicans in more than name only.  You are so funny!

Hello!!?  Anybody at home?  This is why they are called RINOs.  They betray the ideals that they ran on.  And in time, the constituents catch on and most make changes.  But there are always a few that get away.  Trump changed that my getting people more active in the body politic.  These Rinos are like Reagan, he didn't leave the Democratic party, the party left him.  But in this case, they left the party.  In the end, it doesn't matter what you run on, it's all about what you do.  Doesn't matter if you have Socialist or Conservative next to your name, it's how you rule.

[Tiggs]

14 hours ago, DieChecker said:

Which is exactly why this fellow should NOT be on the committee. He's far from impartial, or neutral. Hes in fact highly bias.

In your opinion.

In my opinion -- he's just stating the obvious.
 

14 hours ago, DieChecker said:

The difference between grave crimes and a "coup", is most of the people involved in the latter performed misdemeanors and will serve zero to two years, where as most grave crimes are a minimum of ten years.

And do you think most of the BLM protestors were charged with grave crimes?

Either way -- too early to make that comparison, since the Director of the FBI says there's still more serious charges to come.

 

[+Desertrat56]

15 minutes ago, RavenHawk said:

Hello!!?  Anybody at home?  This is why they are called RINOs.  They betray the ideals that they ran on.  And in time, the constituents catch on and most make changes.  But there are always a few that get away.  Trump changed that my getting people more active in the body politic.  These Rinos are like Reagan, he didn't leave the Democratic party, the party left him.  But in this case, they left the party.  In the end, it doesn't matter what you run on, it's all about what you do.  Doesn't matter if you have Socialist or Conservative next to your name, it's how you rule.

The Constituents are supposed to be who the elected officials represent!!!   HELLO - For the People By the People.  But the parties (both of them) insist that any one elected with the party support is For the Money by the Party/Corporations.    If there is a representative in Congress, elected as a republican or democrat that does not tow the party line they usually are no longer supported by the party.   How many congress people do you think actually represent the constituants rather than the party?

[el midgetron]

54 minutes ago, South Alabam said:

Trump didn't do or say anything to incite these people according to his supporters.

This man thinks he is crafty when he speaks to avoid blame, but he isn't. I mean he told them to peacefully march down there, and they did peacefully march down there.

But once there, he knew what they were going to do.

I mean they went down there and fought, fought like hell, even killing Police in the melee. 

Nope. Trump told them to walk down the AND THEN makes the,selves peacefully and patriotically heard.

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 I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard. 

https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-speech-save-america-rally-transcript-january-6
 

The only person who was killed on the 6th was Ashli Babbitt. Others DIED but she was the only one who was killed.

[RavenHawk]

20 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said:

If there is a representative in Congress, elected as a republican or democrat that does not tow the party line they usually are no longer supported by the party.

Doh!  That's what I am saying.  Clueless.

20 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said:

 How many congress people do you think actually represent the constituants rather than the party?

More Conservatives than Socialists.  Socialism is based on the party.  Conservatism is based on the individual.  And when more Rinos are kicked out, more Conservatives will be representing more people.  The Republican party is cleaning house.

[Buzz_Light_Year]

1 hour ago, South Alabam said:

“Together we are determined to defend and preserve government of the people, by the people and for the people,” Trump said, adding that “we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.”

As I understand it only Democrats can use such inflammatory, hateful and threatening speech without repercussions.

And please post a link where any Trump supporter killed anyone and was charged for same. I can show multiple links and video of a Trump supporter being killed.

Distorting facts seems to be your modus operandi.

[Tatetopa]

4 hours ago, el midgetron said:

Of course, no one believed that a bunch of clowns and their autonomous zone would overthrow the US. Just like no one really believed that a bunch of clowns running amok in the Capitol would be their future overlords. It’s just politically useful hyperbole. 

So of course a bunch of clowns like th eDemocratic Party have NO chance of destroying the country.  What's all the panic rhetoric  we keep hearing about then?

[Tatetopa]

2 hours ago, RavenHawk said:

No, they are not supposed to but when has that stopped the Left?  This "investigation" IS the trial, because they know they won't be able to push it any further (They are that desperate).  It is very carefully choreographed.  This is not about finding out what happened, it's meant to bury the reason in propaganda to set precedence to effectively marginalize half the population.  This is about the 2022 and 2024 elections.  They are still afraid of Trump.  He lives rent free in their heads.  If the Left really wanted to find the root causes, they need go no further than their own corruption.  But they are too arrogant and above the law to realize what they are doing and the unintended consequences of their actions.

Well, I am glad we agree on that.  I think it is a part of the basis for our justice system.  When has the Left held secret trials?  I guess I just don't know, and if they are secret, how would we?

The investigation is just that.  It is not a trial, nobody has been indicted.  Congress does not have the power to try legal cases. That power is reserved to the Judicial.

It is meant to find out what happened, not just how it started, but how it got so far.  Did Pelosi have a hand in it?  Even the MSM has been asking that question.  It will be asked and investigated. 

Questions and answers.  You may be afraid it will lead to Trump, but proving his culpability is a might big stretch.  What propaganda?  Are you referring to testimony under oath or display of some of the dozens of videos taken that day, even some by the rioters and police body cams?

If you can see a transparent chain of questions and answers supported by facts, it is not propaganda even if it leads to unpleasant conclusions.  If the right questions are not asked, public pressure will not let that stand, they will be asked.  Marginalize half the population?   Do facts and truth do that?  

An outside observer would question Republican motives at this point.  They seem to be the ones trying to bury it.

First they said  it was Antifa or the FBI.  That would be a major reason to have the hearings to get to the bottom of that.  Remember Benghazi?  Clinton testified before a Congressional committee on that to establish what happened, even if that administration would have rather hidden the facts, Trey Gowdy as a Congressman his peers had the power to ask the questions.

Then they said it was a regular tourist day.  Video seems to deny that.

Then it was a hugging and kissing love fest.  Again video does not support that.

Now it was Nancy Pelosi's fault.  Did she have the power and give the orders to leave the capitol undermanned and unprepared for attack?  Did she recruit the rioters?  

I want observer truth, not Pelosi truth or McCarthy truth.  If truth marginalizes half the population then we better get it into the open and fix it.

[+DieChecker]

1 hour ago, Tiggs said:

In your opinion.

In my opinion -- he's just stating the obvious.

True, but if I was being interviewed for the OJ Simpson murder trial and said, "Obviously he killed them", that would be stating the obvious, but also clearly indicating a bias.

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And do you think most of the BLM protestors were charged with grave crimes?

I think most of the rioters who showed up to BLM protests didn't get charged at all. There were videos of the Portland Police having hundreds of things thrown at them, and pepper spray at them, and though a handful were arrested, not a one (on many nights) was actually charged.

I think, like these 1-6 rioters, the BLM protest rioters need to be arrested and charged and given a trial. 

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Either way -- too early to make that comparison, since the Director of the FBI says there's still more serious charges to come.

Oh, not leading with their biggest huh? I guess we'll have to see what happens.

I read there were now 20 people who have pled guilty.

[el midgetron]

53 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

So of course a bunch of clowns like th eDemocratic Party have NO chance of destroying the country.  What's all the panic rhetoric  we keep hearing about then?

You called the 6th a coup. It wasn’t by any serious standard a coup. It wasn’t a serious threat to our democracy, it was a bunch of clowns running amok in the Capitol. 
 

The clowns in the Democrat party have the reins of power. If anyone can drive our Democracy over a cliff it’s those Bozos.

[+DieChecker]

6 hours ago, ExpandMyMind said:

I'm not sure you can overstate just how significant an event Jan 6th was to the US. No one living has seen such an attack on your country.

Oh how I wish the "like" button had an "eyeroll".

[el midgetron]

9/11

heck, even Chaz/Chop was as bad as the 6th.

Edited July 28, 2021 by el midgetron

[+DieChecker]

Portland STILL hasn't recovered from the riots last summer, and its been a year. A Covid19 year, true, but C'Mon Man, its been a year. Capital building was back to business the next day.

[+Desertrat56]

12 minutes ago, DieChecker said:

Portland STILL hasn't recovered from the riots last summer, and its been a year. A Covid19 year, true, but C'Mon Man, its been a year. Capital building was back to business the next day.

The next election can remedy some of that by voting out the mayor and any who supported his inept handling of that situation.

[Grim Reaper 6]

7 hours ago, el midgetron said:

 

No, it’s only right in from of YOU the not-rocket-scientist.
 

I see your common sense demonstrated above where you feign being offered because I know “nothing about you” then you turn around and make even more assumptions about myself. Dude. You are either a phony or you genuinely contradicted yourself, Either way, your common sense appears to be due for its scheduled maintenance. 
 

Phony is your watch word, as I have stated and will State again you are unable to Separate fact from fiction. Nothing you have said since you stated posting to these threads is Genuine Thought. Everything is a regurgitation of something you have read or heard on social media, absolutely nothing is constructed from your own mind. So in essence Polly do you want Cracker!!

Edited July 28, 2021 by Manwon Lender

[Grim Reaper 6]

7 hours ago, Buzz_Light_Year said:

Gets my vote.

Come on Buzzy, Little Super Heros don't vote your suppose to save the day!

[Grim Reaper 6]

2 hours ago, DieChecker said:

Portland STILL hasn't recovered from the riots last summer, and its been a year. A Covid19 year, true, but C'Mon Man, its been a year. Capital building was back to business the next day.

Still defending.