Will Due Posted July 24, 2021 #76 Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gromdor said: Her role has always been with the conservatives and Republicans. Wrong. Her role has always been with the corruption occurring under the noses and in the faces of the gullible. That's why she doesn't like Trump. Because the not so gullible had the nerve to elect him because he said he would squeeze the puss out of the pimples of corruption spreading all over the body of representative democracy as a form of government. 1 hour ago, Gromdor said: And why is a has-been likeTrump the Republican party? Shouldn't they have a platform to embrace instead of a person? Trump isn't a has been. "Trump" is just getting started. "Trump" is the platform precisely because "Trump" isn't a person. It's a people. The not so gullible. And there are millions of us. Edited July 24, 2021 by Will Due 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHunter Posted July 24, 2021 #77 Share Posted July 24, 2021 21 minutes ago, Gromdor said: I have to say that I particular could care less about Cheney one way or another. She doesn't represent my district. Her role has always been with the conservatives and Republicans. From that stand point, I don't see her having lost her "power" and why would it matter if Republicans in Wisconsin censored her when she is a representative of Wyoming? And why is a has-been likeTrump the Republican party? Shouldn't they have a platform to embrace instead of a person? I meant Wyoming and not Wisconsin, most people would of realized that but you apparently. The point is your suggested claim that Liz Cheney is a Republican representatives in good standing with the rest of the party and would be unbiased is wrong. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 24, 2021 #78 Share Posted July 24, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 4:55 AM, OverSword said: Link And here is Nanci's side of the story Link That's a great idea, would Trump have done anything different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 24, 2021 #79 Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) On 7/23/2021 at 1:42 AM, OverSword said: You're right. Why would anyone want people on a committee that didn't see things their way? Again if Trump was still in power would he have done nothing different, well you don't have to answer because we both know that Trump would have done the same thing. In Trumps Administration either you followed the leader of you were ridiculed and fired. Edited July 24, 2021 by Manwon Lender 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likely Guy Posted July 24, 2021 #80 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Jim Jordan loses it. If you feel you might be "triggered", pause it at 2 minutes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el midgetron Posted July 24, 2021 #81 Share Posted July 24, 2021 The effort is a giant farce. It’s a smear campaign intended to deflect form the Democrat’s on going dumpster fire of unpopular policy. Spoiler alert, the committee is going to find that the very orange man is so very bad. IF Trump is in anyway responsible for the 6th, then Bernie Sanders is equally responsible for the congressional baseball shooting. It’s not like Trump down played the mayhem, voiced support for it, encouraged it, justified it, or started a fund to bail out the trouble makers. That was Democrats during months of mostly-peaceful violence that left 30 dead and two billion dollars in damages. Also, the left’s fake reverence for the Chambers of government doesn’t float when twenty years ago a much less radical Democrat named Bill Clinton pardoned a terrorist who detonated a bomb in the Senate building in an attempt to do the same things the morons who invaded the Capital are being accused of. "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard." - Donald Trump 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likely Guy Posted July 24, 2021 #82 Share Posted July 24, 2021 11 minutes ago, el midgetron said: "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard." - Donald Trump In context: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-peacefully-and-patriotically/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el midgetron Posted July 24, 2021 #83 Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) Quote “We will stop the steal.” “We will not let them silence your voices.” “You have to show strength, and you have to be strong.” “We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing.” “We’re going to try and give [lawmakers] the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.” “We’re going to have to fight much harder.” “We fight like hell, and if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.” Is that the context? …..And? Edited July 24, 2021 by el midgetron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 24, 2021 #84 Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 hour ago, el midgetron said: The effort is a giant farce. It’s a smear campaign intended to deflect form the Democrat’s on going dumpster fire of unpopular policy. Spoiler alert, the committee is going to find that the very orange man is so very bad. IF Trump is in anyway responsible for the 6th, then Bernie Sanders is equally responsible for the congressional baseball shooting. It’s not like Trump down played the mayhem, voiced support for it, encouraged it, justified it, or started a fund to bail out the trouble makers. That was Democrats during months of mostly-peaceful violence that left 30 dead and two billion dollars in damages. Also, the left’s fake reverence for the Chambers of government doesn’t float when twenty years ago a much less radical Democrat named Bill Clinton pardoned a terrorist who detonated a bomb in the Senate building in an attempt to do the same things the morons who invaded the Capital are being accused of. "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard." - Donald Trump See the bolded above! Are you delusional through his Presidency the real criminals who were part of the Trump Sponsored criminal activity were Pardoned for crimes committed against the American People. Even your hero President Trump and his Grifter Children were Stealing Millions of Dollars ear marked for veterans and poor Americans from the Trump Charity. While he was only forced to pay back 2 million dollars which was only a fraction of what that family of thieves stole. They bought cars, Trump even had a huge painting painted of himself, and they also spent millions of that money on his campaign in 2016. Thats only a single situation where his dishonest and criminal behavior was caught, there were many more. You say he didn't voice support for the mayhem, your right he created it, so your commentsare a joke and your quite foolish for even making a statement like that! But, please carry on with each post you only look worst and you look more goofy than you did before. Honestly, who do you think your fooling, not everyone has stopped thinking like you. Wake up dude each day is a new beginning as the Sun rises and there is still hope for you, stop pushing party propaganda along with misinformation and think for yourself, come jake you can do it. JIMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 24, 2021 #85 Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 hour ago, el midgetron said: Is that the context? …..And? No that's not correct it just more of your personal misinformation and your miss guided tempt at being humorous. So since you think your a comedian I have something for you to use in next standup performance! Here is a popular face of the Republican Party getting dressed down by Chairman of the Joint Cheifs of Staff, that Republican sounds a lot like you, lots of noise and substance!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted July 24, 2021 #86 Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Gromdor said: I think you are confusing Cheney with Marjory Taylor Green. Marjory Taylor Green was the one stripped from all the committees whereas Cheney serves on the Armed Services Committee and is Vice Chair of the Congressional Western Caucus. My mistake. I oversold her punishment by the GOP. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liz_Cheney Quote She later supported the second impeachment of Donald Trump for his role in the 2021 storming of the U.S. Capitol.[12] Because of her stance on the Capitol riot, her impeachment vote and opposition to Trump's false stolen-election narrative, pro-Trump Freedom Caucus members of the House Republican Conference attempted to remove her from party leadership in February 2021. That effort failed, and Cheney remained conference chair until mid-May, when pro-Trump members of the House again pushed for her removal. With House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy supporting the effort, Cheney was removed from her position. She was chair of the House GOP Conference Seeing as how the people who removed her from the #3 GOP position in the House may be those she is called to investigate, its hard to believe she'll be impartial. Especially given her loud and public condemnations of those same people. Probably exactly why Pelosi picked her. Edited July 24, 2021 by DieChecker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el midgetron Posted July 24, 2021 #87 Share Posted July 24, 2021 5 hours ago, Manwon Lender said: Even your hero President Trump and his Grifter Children were Stealing Millions of Dollars ear marked for veterans and poor Americans from the Trump Charity. While he was only forced to pay back 2 million dollars which was only a fraction of what that family of thieves stole. They bought cars, Trump even had a huge painting painted of himself, and they also spent millions of that money on his campaign in 2016. Thats only a single situation where his dishonest and criminal behavior was caught, there were many more. Quote However, neither Trump, nor his children Ivanka and Eric, nor his foundation, were found to have "stolen" or kept any of the donations, and so none of them "admitted to" any such actions. The New York Supreme Court explicitly acknowledged that all the funds raised for veterans groups had ultimately reached veterans groups. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-fine-stealing-veterans/ Are you talking about the painting for the National Portrait Gallery? Yes, it’s absolutely disgusting that a sitting president would be so blatantly criminal as to allow the National Portrait Gallery to commission a giant painting of themselves. Hopefully our democracy will recover someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 24, 2021 #88 Share Posted July 24, 2021 36 minutes ago, el midgetron said: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-fine-stealing-veterans/ Are you talking about the painting for the National Portrait Gallery? Yes, it’s absolutely disgusting that a sitting president would be so blatantly criminal as to allow the National Portrait Gallery to commission a giant painting of themselves. Hopefully our democracy will recover someday. The only reason things where not taken farther was because a sitting President was involved in committing the Crime. In fact, that crime was the tip of an iceberg, but I must say again if he wasn't a sitting President he would be in a Federal Prison right now where he certainly belongs. Anyway, this isn't new behavior his crimes and racial discrimination go back to the 1970s. It makes me sick, that a our Government Representatives would ever allow such a man to ever sit in the Oval Office! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted July 24, 2021 #89 Share Posted July 24, 2021 I wish there was an Emoji for, "Yes, yes... You've stated how you feel numerous times before." It's always the same rhetoric from some people. I guess its fine if it really makes them feel better.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted July 24, 2021 #90 Share Posted July 24, 2021 13 minutes ago, Manwon Lender said: The only reason things where not taken farther was because a sitting President was involved in committing the Crime. In fact, that crime was the tip of an iceberg, but I must say again if he wasn't a sitting President he would be in a Federal Prison right now where he certainly belongs. Anyway, this isn't new behavior his crimes and racial discrimination go back to the 1970s. It makes me sick, that a our Government Representatives would ever allow such a man to ever sit in the Oval Office! You of all people Manwon shouldn't talk about Joe Biden that way. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted July 24, 2021 #91 Share Posted July 24, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 6:31 AM, DieChecker said: But its not the same investigation, yeah? I dont think calling a vote illegitimate is directly relatable to acting in the 1-6 riots? It does speak to the mind of those who are in question, but unless there's a clear link, and not just partisan anger.... That’s really the narrative they are putting forth. If you have any questions about the election you might as well have busted out a window, and raided the capital right with them folks yourself. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted July 24, 2021 #92 Share Posted July 24, 2021 On 7/21/2021 at 4:03 PM, Desertrat56 said: As long as she replaces them with republicans there I don't see a problem. I think she is too old and crusty to be in congress but she is doing her job. None of them that have been in office more than 4 years are trustworthy, they all have agenda's and owners. There should be term limits in the House and Senate. Career politicians shouldn't be permitted to accrue so much power. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autochthon1990 Posted July 24, 2021 #93 Share Posted July 24, 2021 3 hours ago, preacherman76 said: That’s really the narrative they are putting forth. If you have any questions about the election you might as well have busted out a window, and raided the capital right with them folks yourself. You're welcome to have questions, you just can't start a coup because you didn't like the answers 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el midgetron Posted July 24, 2021 #94 Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) I seem to vaguely remember something about Democrats claiming the 2020 presidential election was stolen. There was a brief two-year investigate that occasionally got covered in the news. There were also Democrats sounding the alarm about election integrity (aka the new Jim Crow). but it wasn’t like Democrats wanted to overturn a certified election. Quote But some Democrats question the optics of challenging certified election results, as President Donald Trump still refuses to concede and makes baseless claims of widespread election fraud, despite losing by much larger margins than the Iowa race. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/12/02/rita-hart-iowa-challenge-election-results-442224 Well, at least the Democrats weren’t pushing conspiracy theories about Donald Trump stealing mail boxes to rig the election. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/tucker-carlson-slams-democrats-over-ludicrous-claim-trump-stealing-mailboxes-another-hoax-and-another-lie%3f_amp=true Edited July 24, 2021 by el midgetron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 24, 2021 #95 Share Posted July 24, 2021 8 hours ago, Will Due said: You of all people Manwon shouldn't talk about Joe Biden that way. i never said I supported Joe Biden, I am a moderate Republican never voted on the Democratic ticket in my life Will. I love my country Will, and if Trump were still in office racial and political separation in America which was his intended goal would be complete. One thing I have never understood about you my friend, is how as a Spiritual Man you could support an open racist, who intentionally violated our Nations most sacred laws ( our constitution). Peace Will. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 24, 2021 #96 Share Posted July 24, 2021 5 hours ago, Hammerclaw said: There should be term limits in the House and Senate. Career politicians shouldn't be permitted to accrue so much power. I hope that this also occurs, I think they should be the same as the Presidential Term Limits. This is one of the biggest problems we face as a Nation, and it is responsible for bring us to where we are today! JIMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 24, 2021 #97 Share Posted July 24, 2021 8 hours ago, DieChecker said: I wish there was an Emoji for, "Yes, yes... You've stated how you feel numerous times before." It's always the same rhetoric from some people. I guess its fine if it really makes them feel better.... Do you feel better? Because you comments are like a skipping record, how does the pot feel calling the kettle black!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted July 25, 2021 #98 Share Posted July 25, 2021 JUST IN: GOP Rep. Adam Kinzinger Joins 1/6 Select Committee (msn.com) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted July 25, 2021 #99 Share Posted July 25, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 9:42 AM, OverSword said: You're right. Why would anyone want people on a committee that didn't see things their way? Why would an organization of any sort tolerate two members whose declared mission was to destroy the organization? Different ideas and viewpoints may increase strength and perspective, saboteurs do not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted July 25, 2021 #100 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Text of Matthew 6:21, "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also", That is insightful and wise no matter where it comes from. Donald Trump has been asking people for money to "Stop the Steal" He has raised something over $75 million dollars. If he were serious, he could start funding audits in all of the swing states for 10% of that. And yet not a nickel of his OWN money or money that he has raked in from his followers has been spent on that cause. So far he has spent it on himself. So where does his heart abide? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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