Mr Walker Posted October 19, 2021 #551 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Nuclear Wessel said: Such as yourself. You love being slippery. Life is not simple or easy to define It is complex and multifaceted The important thing is to think about things deeply, to weigh evidences, and argue a point of view which is defensible I understand your comment here Even my wife complains because i see many different pov. and rather than think in a linear fashion i see things as complex and interlinked withmultiple possiblr causes and effects I am not being slippery. I am just presenting the world as i see it. Fascinating, challenging and very complex, with no simple answers to any thing of interest. I'm not interested in the easy simple or certain things Humanity is NOT an easy thing to define eg the unborn are not considered human beings and thus have no rights in many places yet biologically they are human. The rights and responsibilities we give people depend on their level of functionality, not on their species. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted October 19, 2021 #552 Share Posted October 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, Nuclear Wessel said: That is your subjective opinion, Of course it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted October 19, 2021 #553 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, XenoFish said: Reading comprehension isn't someone's strong point. I believe my comment is an analogy. A way of comparing two things in a easy to understand manner. Must be the amazing skimming abilities. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted October 19, 2021 #554 Share Posted October 19, 2021 If I wanted to call someone trash I would. I'm not known for being subtle. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted October 19, 2021 #555 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, XenoFish said: If I wanted to call someone trash I would. I'm not known for being subtle. Likewise. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted October 19, 2021 #556 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, XenoFish said: If I wanted to call someone trash I would. I'm not known for being subtle. Amen to this. Lol No one misunderstood your meaning, there is garbage posting and quality posting. Kudos to your one liner on emotions and survival. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted October 19, 2021 #557 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, XenoFish said: Reading comprehension isn't someone's strong point. I believe my comment is an analogy. A way of comparing two things in a easy to understand manner. I had this discussion last week with a niece, who had to choose a metaphor for a real life situation in a fantasy novel, to discuss, as her final piece in an advanced degree.(honours degree) The topic was set by her tutor, Sean Williams, a very well known Australian author she drove 130ks for my help because she was struggling to define exactly what was being asked for and because of the thousands of fantasy novels I have read including ali those written by her tutor . We had a long discussion about the many novels which use metaphors and analogies for things in the real world like Asimov's laws of robotics as laws for human behaviour and Tolkien's and Cs Lewis's fantasy, as morality tale's We worked out that a metaphor is a form of analogy. quote A Metaphor is a type of analogy, but where analogy is identifying two things as similar, a metaphor claims a comparison where there may not be one. It is then up to the listener to create meaning out of this comparison. For example “ that sound goes through me like nails down a blackboard”. https://www.networks.nhs.uk/nhs-networks/nlp-in-healthcare/news/metaphor-analogy-and-simile-the-difference-and-why-it-is-important#:~:text=Metaphor is a type of,like nails down a blackboard”. so we are both correct. It is an analogy and a metaphor. I was going to point this out in my post , but waited to see if it was challenged. Edited October 19, 2021 by Mr Walker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted October 19, 2021 #558 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Mr Walker said: I was going to point this out in my post , but waited to see if it was challenged. No you weren't. You literally entered "is a metaphor an analogy" in Google and grabbed the first answer because you weren't sure. It's literally the first answer. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted October 19, 2021 #559 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Mr Walker said: That is your subjective opinion, as it is Nuclear's Basically people call trash, that which they disagree with or cannot understand, and especially that which offends them or challenges their view of the world (which they have constructed to feel safe and secure within) I keep asking people to challenge the facts logic or actual opinions i express. Almost no one does. They might have reasons (excuses) for not doing so, but I believe the y simply cannot. Heck, I could give logical, rational, and reasoned arguments, against all my opinions, so why can't anyone else? 4 minutes ago, Mr Walker said: I had this discussion last week with a niece, who had to choose a metaphor for a real life situation in a fantasy novel, to discuss, as her final piece in an advanced degree.(honours degree) The topic was set by her tutor, Sean Williams, a very well known Australian author We worked out that a metaphor is a form of analogy. quote A Metaphor is a type of analogy, but where analogy is identifying two things as similar, a metaphor claims a comparison where there may not be one. It is then up to the listener to create meaning out of this comparison. For example “ that sound goes through me like nails down a blackboard”. https://www.networks.nhs.uk/nhs-networks/nlp-in-healthcare/news/metaphor-analogy-and-simile-the-difference-and-why-it-is-important#:~:text=Metaphor is a type of,like nails down a blackboard”. so we are both correct. It is an analogy and a metaphor. I was going to point this out in my post , but waited to see if it was challenged. ? Edited October 19, 2021 by Sherapy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted October 19, 2021 #560 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Sometimes I wonder how intelligent I actually am. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted October 19, 2021 #561 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, Sherapy said: 8ty clarified the difference many moons ago many times. For all your speed reading you sure miss a lot. His Googling and defense mechanisms are on point today, tho 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted October 19, 2021 #562 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, XenoFish said: Sometimes I wonder how intelligent I actually am. Definitely more than 1 SD above average. That'd be my guess. Edited October 19, 2021 by Nuclear Wessel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted October 19, 2021 #563 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Nuclear Wessel said: His Googling and defense mechanisms are on point today, tho Indeed. Well one thing for sure we can all read him like a book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted October 19, 2021 #564 Share Posted October 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Nuclear Wessel said: No you weren't. You literally entered "is a metaphor an analogy" in Google and grabbed the first answer because you weren't sure. It's literally the first answer. As i said my niece and i had this discussion and did the googling about a week ago And yep the first (and thus most common) definition when you google makes my point for me However having taught metaphors similes and analogies to students for many decades I already knew this My niece just needed google to confirm it Lots of people with tiny and suspicious mind on UM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted October 19, 2021 #565 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sherapy said: Indeed. Well one thing for sure we can all read him like a book. After so many re-readings, a pretty worn and dog-eared book by now. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted October 19, 2021 #566 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Mr Walker said: Lots of people with tiny and suspicious mind on UM Suspicious, certainly. Tiny? Pfft, says the 120 IQ. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted October 19, 2021 #567 Share Posted October 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, XenoFish said: Sometimes I wonder how intelligent I actually am. I would say very intelligent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted October 19, 2021 #568 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Ok thanks all of you for making my point for me You are only interested in disbelief and personal attacks to justify your own prejudices , and i believe that is because you cant argue the facts or the logic and cant believe iknow wht iam talkig about without damaging your own slef esteem and view of the world again I could prove that i had this discussion a week ago but I dont need to Check out the course Sean Williams runs a t Flinders uni You might possibly find the topic set, online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted October 19, 2021 #569 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Mr Walker said: again I could prove that i had this discussion a week ago but I dont need to "I could prove it, I just don't wanna" Sounds like me when I said I could prove that I was Batman, when I was a kid. Quote You are only interested in disbelief and personal attacks to justify your own prejudices , and i believe that is because you cant argue the facts or the logic and cant believe iknow wht iam talkig about without damaging your own slef esteem and view of the world This is your own subjective opinion. Edited October 19, 2021 by Nuclear Wessel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted October 19, 2021 #570 Share Posted October 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, Sherapy said: Indeed. Well one thing for sure we can all read him like a book. If that is your reading skill you are basically illiterate, given that you constantly misread me and get me wrong, because you impose your own world views on me/ see me as you see yourself. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted October 19, 2021 #571 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Mr Walker said: If that is your reading skill you are basically illiterate, given that you constantly misread me and get me wrong, because you impose your own world views on me/ see me as you see yourself. We read you... loud and clear. We also read between the lines. It's quite a skill. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted October 19, 2021 #572 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Nuclear Wessel said: "I could prove it, I just don't wanna" Sounds like me when I said I could prove that I was Batman, when I was a kid. This is your own subjective opinion. Not "dont wanna" I dont need to My brother, sister and law, wife, and niece were all siting round the table when my niece and i had this discussion I know I told the truth and that's all that matters (except of course that i was right to use the term metaphor) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted October 19, 2021 #573 Share Posted October 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, Mr Walker said: Ok thanks all of you for making my point for me You are only interested in disbelief and personal attacks to justify your own prejudices , and i believe that is because you cant argue the facts or the logic and cant believe iknow wht iam talkig about without damaging your own slef esteem and view of the world again I could prove that i had this discussion a week ago but I dont need to Check out the course Sean Williams runs a t Flinders uni You might possibly find the topic set, online. Mr. Walker, you were caught red handed with you hand in the cookie jar. Just admit it. Lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted October 19, 2021 #574 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Mr Walker said: Not "dont wanna" I dont need to My brother, sister and law, wife, and niece were all siting round the table when my niece and i had this discussion I know I told the truth and that's all that matters (except of course that i was right to use the term metaphor) Sure, sure. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted October 19, 2021 #575 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, Nuclear Wessel said: We read you... loud and clear. We also read between the lines. It's quite a skill. Thats your problem There is nothing between the lines. Your imagination and bias is creating all the words you see there Anyway done with this for tonight. It is after midnight and i've got a book to read . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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