Ozymandias Posted September 14, 2021 #26 Share Posted September 14, 2021 In November 1919, Prince Andrew stated that he was 'willing to help any appropriate law enforcement agency with their investigations if required'. Now, contrary to that very public offer to cooperate fully with the US police investigation into the Epstein sex abuse allegations he is hiding behind his lawyers and legal technicalities. This is not what one expects of an innocent man, is it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted September 14, 2021 #27 Share Posted September 14, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Ozymandias said: In November 1919, Prince Andrew stated that he was 'willing to help any appropriate law enforcement agency with their investigations if required'. Now, contrary to that very public offer to cooperate fully with the US police investigation into the Epstein sex abuse allegations he is hiding behind his lawyers and legal technicalities. This is not what one expects of an innocent man, is it? He knows that if he goes to prison as a prince, he will leave as a princess lol. He`ll be sucking convict toes!!! Edited September 14, 2021 by Cookie Monster 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Posted September 15, 2021 Author #28 Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) The High Court has officially accepted that Prince Andrew has received notification of the court case being brought against him: High Court in London accepts request from Virginia Giuffre's lawyers | Daily Mail Online He may have not been sweating in the night club at the time of the offence (which he wasn't in because he was eating pizza in Guildford), because of an adrenalin overdose , but he may be sweating now. Edited September 15, 2021 by The Silver Shroud 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted September 15, 2021 #29 Share Posted September 15, 2021 4 hours ago, The Silver Shroud said: The High Court has officially accepted that Prince Andrew has received notification of the court case being brought against him: High Court in London accepts request from Virginia Giuffre's lawyers | Daily Mail Online He may have not been sweating in the night club at the time of the offence (which he wasn't in because he was eating pizza in Guildford), because of an adrenalin overdose , but he may be sweating now. It would take a couple of years to extradite him, and you can be sure every legal argument going would be used to stop it. I`m not convinced the Queen wont intervene to stop it either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted September 16, 2021 #30 Share Posted September 16, 2021 The British High Court has agreed to serve him the papers. This is a civil case, not a criminal one. Andrew is being sued, not charged. A warrant for arrest might only be issued if he's found in contempt of court. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/15/nyregion/prince-andrew-epstein-lawsuit.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Posted September 24, 2021 Author #31 Share Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) On 9/16/2021 at 2:11 AM, susieice said: The British High Court has agreed to serve him the papers. This is a civil case, not a criminal one. Andrew is being sued, not charged. A warrant for arrest might only be issued if he's found in contempt of court. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/15/nyregion/prince-andrew-epstein-lawsuit.html The Prince's lawyers have accepted the papers. Serving of documents is the critical first stage in any claim for damages - it means that a defendant has been made fully aware of the allegations against them by receiving all of the papers in the case. If a defendant does not take part in the case after they have been served, they risk automatically losing. Prince Andrew's lawyers accept he was served with US case papers - BBC News Edited September 24, 2021 by The Silver Shroud 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted September 24, 2021 #32 Share Posted September 24, 2021 1 minute ago, The Silver Shroud said: The Prince's lawyers have accepted the papers. Prince Andrew's lawyers accept he was served with US case papers - BBC News Maybe now he'll answer the questions LE has wanted to ask him. He will need to swear an affidavit, which they said before he can do in a British Court. I'm not sure if he will need to appear in an American Court. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Posted September 24, 2021 Author #33 Share Posted September 24, 2021 1 minute ago, susieice said: Maybe now he'll answer the questions LE has wanted to ask him. He will need to swear an affidavit, which they said before he can do in a British Court. I'm not sure if he will need to appear in an American Court. He'll have no problem lying. He has already publicly told a bunch of lies in his TV interview with Emily Maitlis. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted September 24, 2021 #34 Share Posted September 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, The Silver Shroud said: He'll have no problem lying. He has already publicly told a bunch of lies in his TV interview with Emily Maitlis. I'm sure he'll do anything to try and protect Ghislaine Maxwell. His loyalty is badly misplaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Posted September 25, 2021 Author #35 Share Posted September 25, 2021 10 hours ago, susieice said: Maybe now he'll answer the questions LE has wanted to ask him. He will need to swear an affidavit, which they said before he can do in a British Court. I'm not sure if he will need to appear in an American Court. It may just be fought on technicalities, which will be a shame as the truth won't emerge. A bit like a burglar being caught outside a house with a bag of loot, telling police they have to let him go because they used the wrong words in Miranda. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Posted September 28, 2021 Author #36 Share Posted September 28, 2021 (edited) Witness will testify against the Prince: An eyewitness who claims she saw Prince Andrew dancing with his alleged sex abuse victim Virginia Giuffre - on the same night he said he was at Pizza Express - will testify in court. Shukri Walker has reportedly agreed to appear at the upcoming civil case in the US - where she will tell the court that she saw the Duke of York at Tramp nightclub in London back in 2001. Eyewitness who says she saw Prince Andrew dancing with his sex accuser 'will testify' in court | Daily Mail Online Edited September 28, 2021 by The Silver Shroud 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Posted October 2, 2021 Author #37 Share Posted October 2, 2021 (edited) As I understand it, this is a civil case for damages, so if our Prince loses, he will not be necessarily found guilty of the criminal acts of rape and assault? Is this the case? If he is found guily of crimes, I expect there will be repercussions in the UK too. Lawyers for Prince Andrew’s accuser are so confident they can see off one of his main arguments that they have done some of the duke’s work for him. Attorneys for Virginia Roberts, suing Andrew in New York for alleged rape and sexual assault, have won the release of paperwork which the prince’s team believe is key, heading off the potential for more delays. And Miss Roberts’s side are so satisfied that her legal settlement with Jeffrey Epstein will not protect the duke that they will happily hand it over. New Andrew setback: Virginia Roberts' lawyers win release of paperwork | Daily Mail Online Edited October 2, 2021 by The Silver Shroud 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Posted October 2, 2021 Author #38 Share Posted October 2, 2021 (edited) The Queen is privately funding the Duke of York’s legal fight against sex abuse allegations to the tune of millions of pounds, the Telegraph understands. Prince Andrew, 61, last week expanded his American legal team, hiring Melissa Lerner, a Princeton and Columbia graduate, to work alongside lead counsel Andrew Brettler. Both work for Lavley Singer, a renowned Los Angeles-based law firm reputed for its ability to make celebrities' legal problems “go away” - and commanding the fees to do so. Mr Brettler is thought to be charging the Duke around $2,000 an hour, while Ms Lerner’s appointment, their junior staff and his UK-based legal team, led by criminal defence solicitor Gary Bloxsome, have already sent his bills soaring. Exclusive: Queen spends millions to privately fund Prince Andrew’s fight against sex abuse allegations (msn.com) Edited October 2, 2021 by The Silver Shroud 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpandMyMind Posted October 2, 2021 #39 Share Posted October 2, 2021 Quote The Queen is privately funding the Duke of York's legal fight against sex abuse allegations to the tune of millions of pounds, the Telegraph understands. Prince Andrew, 61, last week expanded his American legal team, hiring Melissa Lerner, a Princeton and Columbia graduate, to work alongside lead counsel Andrew Brettler. Both work for Lavley Singer, a renowned Los Angeles-based law firm reputed for its ability to make celebrities' legal problems "go away" - and commanding the fees to do so. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/queen-spends-millions-on-prince-andrews-sex-abuse-allegations-fight/LVA63ASFGH7FEATMVM4IQCGE7I/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Waters Posted October 7, 2021 #40 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Prince Andrew can see confidential papers accuser Virginia Giuffre signed with Epstein Prince Andrew’s lawyers have been granted access to the sealed agreement his accuser previously signed with Jeffrey Epstein. Virginia Giuffre, who is suing the royal accusing him of sexually assaulting her when she was 17, signed confidential papers in 2009 with Epstein - her former employer and a convicted sex offender. Prince Andrew’s legal team believes the document Giuffre signed in return for a payment prevented her from taking any future legal action – such as the one she is bringing against the Duke of York. It is why the Prince’s new US attorney, the Hollywood lawyer Andrew Brettler, believes the document might become a key part of Andrew’s defence case. https://www.itv.com/news/2021-10-06/prince-andrew-can-see-confidential-papers-from-his-accuser 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldorado Posted October 8, 2021 #41 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Prince Andrew and I share ‘strong family values’, says his former wife, the Duchess of York MSN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandias Posted October 8, 2021 #42 Share Posted October 8, 2021 51 minutes ago, Eldorado said: Prince Andrew and I share ‘strong family values’, says his former wife, the Duchess of York MSN Really?! Is that why he is hiding behind legal technicalities instead of doing what any innocent man with strong family values would do; i.e. cooperate wholeheartedly with the investigation. After all, he said in November 1919, that he was 'willing to help any appropriate law enforcement agency with their investigations if required'. Now, contrary to that very public offer to cooperate fully with the US police investigation, he is being deliberately uncooperative. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Waters Posted October 10, 2021 #43 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Prince Andrew is a source of embarrassment for royal family: report Prince Andrew appears to have been kicked out of the spotlight for good after he was accused of sexual abuse. The Duke of York might not come out of hiding ever as the bombshell sexual assault lawsuit slapped against him has been a source of major embarrassment for the British royal family, according to sources. It was revealed by a report by the Sunday Times of London, citing insiders, that Prince Charles, Princess Anne and Prince Edward have all slammed the door in the disgraced royal’s face. “There is no way in the world he’s ever coming back, the family will never let it happen,” said the source. https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/899226-prince-andrew-is-a-source-of-embarrassment-for-royal-family-report 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted October 10, 2021 #44 Share Posted October 10, 2021 On 8/10/2021 at 3:28 AM, The Silver Shroud said: If anyone hasn't seen it, this is the most cringe-inducing interview you are likely to see. Better than The Office. Emily Maitlis said that after the cameras stopped rolling he took her on a tour of Buckingham Palace, saying she was welcome to return to do a documentary on it- he was oblivious to the grave he had just dug for himself. I try to be unbiased, but the more I watch it the more convinced I am he is guilty lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted October 10, 2021 #45 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Being wealthy and powerful puts a target on a person. But it also serves to help them avoid consequences. The difficulty is in figuring out which thing is actually going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Waters Posted October 11, 2021 #46 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Quote Met police drop investigation into Prince Andrew in Virginia Giuffre case Officers made decision after reportedly talking to Giuffre and a review of documents https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/oct/10/uk-met-police-reportedly-speak-prince-andrew-accuser-virginia-giuffre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Waters Posted October 30, 2021 #47 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Latest: Prince Andrew seeks dismissal of accuser's 'baseless' and 'frivolous' civil lawsuit in New York The Duke of York's lawyers in New York have filed an application to the District Court in New York, seeking the case to be dismissed. https://news.sky.com/story/prince-andrew-seeks-dismissal-of-accuser-virginia-giuffres-civil-lawsuit-in-new-york-12454678 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Posted November 2, 2021 Author #48 Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) On 10/30/2021 at 12:05 PM, Still Waters said: Latest: Prince Andrew seeks dismissal of accuser's 'baseless' and 'frivolous' civil lawsuit in New York The Duke of York's lawyers in New York have filed an application to the District Court in New York, seeking the case to be dismissed. https://news.sky.com/story/prince-andrew-seeks-dismissal-of-accuser-virginia-giuffres-civil-lawsuit-in-new-york-12454678 I predict it is going to back fire on Andy. He can hardly argue that he never met her and the photo is faked, and simultaneously argue that if it was true, she "asked for it anyway". And I don't care for those who argue that in UK law she was not a minor- she was a 17 year old girl, he was a man in his 40s, who in their right mind would approve of a romantic relationship between them? No one. What would they have in common? So how can a sexual relationship be okay? Prince Andrew’s attacks on Virginia Giuffre’s character in an attempt to get her sexual assault lawsuit against him thrown out may fail and risk doing further damage to his reputation, British lawyers have said. Prince Andrew’s criticisms of Virginia Giuffre may backfire, lawyers say | Prince Andrew | The Guardian Edited November 2, 2021 by The Silver Shroud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Waters Posted November 3, 2021 #49 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Quote A US judge in the Prince Andrew sexual assault civil case has said he is aiming to hold the trial in late 2022. In the latest pre-trial hearing in New York, district judge Lewis Kaplan said he would target October to December 2022, but did not set a specific date. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59155004 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Posted December 29, 2021 Author #50 Share Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) The Prince has introduced a new defence - that both she and he are not US citizens. I wonder that if he manages to get the case dismissed on technicalities he will be able to return to public life. It might be better for him to allow the trial to go ahead and prove his innocence : Prince Andrew has challenged his sexual abuse accuser Virginia Giuffre's residency status in a bid to have her civil case against him thrown out of court. The Duke of York's lawyers filed a motion on Tuesday that states Ms Giuffre, 38, is not a US citizen and thus the New York court does not have jurisdiction over the case. Ms Giuffre alleges Prince Andrew forced her to have sex with him at the London home of Ghislaine Maxwell, and abused her at two homes belonging to paedophile Jeffrey Epstein. The duke categorically denies the claims. Prince Andrew challenges accuser Virginia Giuffre's residency status in bid to have sex abuse case thrown out | UK News | Sky News Edited December 29, 2021 by The Silver Shroud 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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