Biden's botched Afghanistan exit is a disaster at home and abroad long in the making

[+susieice]

Nearly 900 Afghan refugees have now landed in Philadelphia.

https://6abc.com/afghan-refugees-philadelphia-international-airport-afghanistan-taliban/10988979/

Monday's report.

https://6abc.com/afghanistan-evacuees-philadelphia-international-airport-afghan-how-to-help-refugees/10987291/

7 more planes containing hundreds of refugees are expected to arrive today {Tuesday).

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/7-more-airplanes-carrying-afghan-refugees-to-land-in-philadelphia/2943761/

A lot of pictures in this link. It says a total of 2400 refugees have now come through Philadelphia Saturday through Tuesday.

https://billypenn.com/2021/08/29/philadelphia-airport-afghan-evacuees-welcoming-center-photos/

Edited August 31, 2021 by susieice

[quiXilver]

Perhaps we should have Trump host the refugees at Mar a Lago and some of his other estates, after all, he initiated the deal to begin withdrawals, and he seemed to have a focus of selecting federal events to be held at his facilities to fill out his rental capacities... seems like an elegant win win.

 

[el midgetron]

5 hours ago, South Alabam said:

His plan was to proactively withdraw based on the Taliban abiding by the agreement he set.

If they failed to abide, then (supposedly) he would stop withdrawal conditionally based, until compliance.

So had the withdrawal went according to Trump's plan, all American would be out, the Taliban would takeover, and these people that did get out might be facing death at the hands of the Taliban.

Ding ding ding we have a winner!
 

and that’s the problem with how sleepy McJoe withdrew. The Taliban were NOT abiding by the agreement and NOT all Americans got out. Thats 100% Joe. Those who are defending Joe’s course of action, get used to it. This won’t be the last dumpster fire he’s responsible for.

As for the garbage about Trump being a racist who would t help the “brown” people of Afghanistan. How many of our “brown” allies did Joe turn his back on? How many?

[psyche101]

9 hours ago, el midgetron said:

The daily fail is you who claimed the Taliban had no pilots. Then when faced with the reality of being wrong you switched gears to something else to cover your daily fail, But whatever, if you keep moving the goal post you are bound to eventually make a point. 

So you think getting one helicopter of the ground equals pilots 

Not the sharpest knife in the drawer are you. 

[Vorg]

39 minutes ago, el midgetron said:

Ding ding ding we have a winner!
 

and that’s the problem with how sleepy McJoe withdrew. The Taliban were NOT abiding by the agreement and NOT all Americans got out. Thats 100% Joe. Those who are defending Joe’s course of action, get used to it. This won’t be the last dumpster fire he’s responsible for.

As for the garbage about Trump being a racist who would t help the “brown” people of Afghanistan. How many of our “brown” allies did Joe turn his back on? How many?

All of the ones who made it out wouldn't have under Trump. You know it, and he knows it and Stephen Miller knows it. Stop being ignorant. (Like always)

Trump admin broke law with visa delays for Afghans, Iraqis who worked for U.S., judge rules (nbcnews.com)      

President Trump: How Many terrorists Will Joe Biden Bring To America? We Don’t Know!' (welovetrump.com)

Stephen Miller Suggests Afghans Don’t Deserve to Come to the U.S. (mediaite.com)

None of the above links sound like Trump would have lifted a finger for these people.

[el midgetron]

37 minutes ago, psyche101 said:

So you think getting one helicopter of the ground equals pilots 

Not the sharpest knife in the drawer are you. 

It’s better than you thought they could do. Who’s not the sharpest knife now? 
 

Besides who’s to say they only have one pilot? But let’s say they do only have one pilot. That one pilot could train others.

As well, do you think maybe there are countries that will be happy to train them to use all their new toys? We were happy to train and supply our allies in Afghanistan. You don’t think anyone might have the same interest in supporting the Taliban? 

[psyche101]

2 minutes ago, el midgetron said:

It’s better than you thought they could do. Who’s not the sharpest knife now? 

You. You're an And Then wannabe.

2 minutes ago, el midgetron said:

Besides who’s to say they only have one pilot? But let’s say they do only have one pilot. That one pilot could train others.

As well, do you think maybe there are countries that will be happy to train them to use all their new toys? We were happy to train and supply our allies in Afghanistan. You don’t think anyone might have the same interest in supporting the Taliban? 

And by that time they will need maintenance.

You could just sit back and watch the ones that take of crash and fall out of the sky. 

[el midgetron]

1 hour ago, South Alabam said:

All of the ones who made it out wouldn't have under Trump. You know it, and he knows it and Stephen Miller knows it. Stop being ignorant. (Like always)

Trump admin broke law with visa delays for Afghans, Iraqis who worked for U.S., judge rules (nbcnews.com)      

President Trump: How Many terrorists Will Joe Biden Bring To America? We Don’t Know!' (welovetrump.com)

Stephen Miller Suggests Afghans Don’t Deserve to Come to the U.S. (mediaite.com)

None of the above links sound like Trump would have lifted a finger for these people.

BS

This is the same partisan trope used when Trump was securing our border (before Joe turned it into another ongoing crisis). Trump is not calling all Afghans terrorist just like he wasn’t calling all Mexicans rapists and murderers. He pointing out the obvious problems with security that will allow terrorist/rapists/murders into the country. It’s a valid concern. 
 

The real question is why isn’t Joe and is followers worried about terrorists exploiting the evacuation to gain access into the country? Oh yeah, because you all hate American and  would welcome those who want attack our country and kill your fellow country men! Why else?

The Bad Bad Orange man isn’t the only leader concerned about this -

https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-needs-security-screening-afghan-refugees-official-says/

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Now, United States government officials have warned that nearly 100 Afghan evacuees are on intelligence agency watch lists and may be related to terrorist groups like Islamic State.

https://www.wionews.com/world/nearly-100-afghan-evacuees-may-have-ties-with-islamic-state-reports-408262

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Afghanistan: Person on no-fly list flown to UK during Kabul evacuation

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58311964

https://nypost.com/2021/08/25/afghan-evacuee-with-potential-isis-ties-detained-in-qatar-report/

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/press/rep/releases/grassley-to-biden-admin-dont-let-bad-actors-take-advantage-of-chaotic-afghanistan-withdrawal

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/23/people-posing-direct-threat-to-uk-found-among-potential-kabul-evacuees

The silliest thing is you are calling Trump a racist and claiming he would have left a bunch of “brown” collaborators behind to be killed by the Taliban. Yet, that’s exactly what Joe did and you don’t get a ****. You are full of bologna. 
 

just like Trump is a very bad man for “kids in cages” but you don’t give a rats *** for the kids Joe currently has crammed several times past capacity into those same cages. 

Edited September 1, 2021 by el midgetron

[el midgetron]

24 minutes ago, psyche101 said:

And by that time they will need maintenance.

You could just sit back and watch the ones that take of crash and fall out of the sky. 

How could they fly them? You were claiming they didn’t even have pilots? 
 

like I said, you just keep moving the goal post until you eventually score a point. 

[el midgetron]

59 minutes ago, South Alabam said:

Trump admin broke law with visa delays for Afghans, Iraqis who worked for U.S., judge rules (nbcnews.com)      

President Trump: How Many terrorists Will Joe Biden Bring To America? We Don’t Know!' (welovetrump.com)

Stephen Miller Suggests Afghans Don’t Deserve to Come to the U.S. (mediaite.com)

From your first link

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The Special Immigrant Visa (SIV) program was set up to help Iraqis and Afghans who worked for U.S. troops or diplomats to resettle in the U.S. But the program has been plagued by delays in both Republican and Democratic administrations. Frustrated lawmakers introduced a law in 2013 ordering the State Department and other agencies to process visa applications within nine months and to report back to Congress on any reason for delay.

Opps, they knew they could sucker you in by putting Trump in the headline, Guess you should have read the article. 

The second link is actually pro-Trump. The rational was explained in my first reply to your post.

The Third link, Again you are condemning a former Trump official for defending something that is what Joe Biden actually did. He’s saying we can’t bring every Afghan collaborator here and Joe Biden didn’t. So….?

Edited September 1, 2021 by el midgetron

[el midgetron]

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There are at least 24 students from the Sacramento area San Juan Unified School District, who are now stranded in Afghanistan by President Joe Biden, following the final withdrawal of U.S. troops Monday, according to a report.

The Sacramento Bee reported that the school district confirmed at least 24 students are in the country as Taliban terrorists are now in control of the majority of the country and the airport since the last troops evacuating people left.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/08/31/report-24-california-students-still-stranded-in-afghanistan/

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A 3-year-old boy from northern California, along with his family, is stranded in Afghanistan as a result of President Joe Biden’s botched Afghanistan withdrawal, according to a report.

The 3-year-old born near Sacramento with an American passport is stranded in Afghanistan, unable to leave the country, according to KGO, a Bay Area affiliate of ABC. The report hides the child’s identity and his family members fear being captured by the Taliban terrorists.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/08/31/3-year-old-american-california-afghanistan-joe-biden/

[el midgetron]

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“Democrats just blocked a vote to require a plan from President Biden to bring Americans home and to account for all the military equipment he left behind,” McCarthy tweeted. “Republicans will not stop until every American is home safely.”

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/08/31/house-republicans-press-to-hold-joe-biden-accountable-for-deadly-afghan-withdrawal/

[F3SS]

Why the hell was an elementary class in Afghanistan? What's wrong with the school? What's wrong with the parents? Holy hell 

[Vorg]

2 hours ago, el midgetron said:

From your first link

Opps, they knew they could sucker you in by putting Trump in the headline, Guess you should have read the article. 

The second link is actually pro-Trump. The rational was explained in my first reply to your post.

The Third link, Again you are condemning a former Trump official for defending something that is what Joe Biden actually did. He’s saying we can’t bring every Afghan collaborator here and Joe Biden didn’t. So….?

That article was from 2019. Maybe you should have paid attention. Even after that article here's what Trump did. Former Pence aide says Trump and Stephen Miller fought against taking Afghan refugees with ‘racist hysteria’ | The Independent

“There were cabinet mtgs about this during the Trump Admin where Stephen Miller would peddle his racist hysteria about Iraq and Afghanistan” she wrote, adding that Mr Miller – a senior aide and speechwriter for Donald Trump – would undermine anyone who was trying to resolve the Special Immigrants Visa issue.

Ms Troye went on to say that while Mr Pence was fully aware of the problem, it was impossible to make progress because Mr Trump and Mr Miller had “watchdogs in place” at the Department of Justice, Homeland Security, State and security agencies to make the process even more difficult.

And why would a man who really cares what happened over there say a thing like this 12 hours ago? Like he really cared for the lives of the interpreters or their families.  Trump Says U.S. Should Have Hit Afghanistan Hard Years Ago and 'Let it Rot' (msn.com)      

It isn't hard for me to see why Trump pulled out of Afghanistan. By Aug of 2019 the judge had ordered them to work on their Special Visa programs to allow at risk Afghans a normal and not stalled process regarding the special Visa's.

Stephen Miller proactively fought anyone in regards to this as described in the first link. This was even after being ordered by the Judge.

Trump and Miller didn't want Afghans to continually keep coming over here so he decided to end the war in Afghanistan and by Feb 2020 had a deal in place just a few months after being ordered to work on the Visa program to allow Afghans over here. See how Trumps' mind works? This is the reason the war was to end. Nothing else.

And had it worked Trumps way, all US troops would have been out, before the Taliban would rise up putting at risk, all those that Biden just airlifted to safety. Trump had his plan in place and it didn't work. He didn't care at all for these people.

 

Edited September 1, 2021 by South Alabam

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

2 hours ago, el midgetron said:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/08/31/report-24-california-students-still-stranded-in-afghanistan/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/08/31/3-year-old-american-california-afghanistan-joe-biden/

What thr very actual ****!?!

[psyche101]

2 hours ago, el midgetron said:

How could they fly them? You were claiming they didn’t even have pilots? 
 

like I said, you just keep moving the goal post until you eventually score a point. 

They don't. I've provided a link.

Getting one helicopter of the ground does not equal a squadron of pilots capable of flying latest technology fighter jets. 

Your just a drama queen. 

[F3SS]

We have no leadership 

 

[Vorg]

2 minutes ago, F3SS said:

We have no leadership 

 

Something is up with this guy from a medical standpoint, IMO. Maybe he has dementia or something as he does seem to stumble words and get confused etc..

Should he resign Mrs. Arrogant would be President. I watched her years ago way before anyone had thrown in a ticket to run for POTUS, and she was as arrogant and condescending to everyone who came before her she questioned in the Senate.

And here she is as VP. A heart beat away from President.

[Vorg]

3 hours ago, el midgetron said:

BS

This is the same partisan trope used when Trump was securing our border (before Joe turned it into another ongoing crisis). Trump is not calling all Afghans terrorist just like he wasn’t calling all Mexicans rapists and murderers. He pointing out the obvious problems with security that will allow terrorist/rapists/murders into the country. It’s a valid concern. 
 

The real question is why isn’t Joe and is followers worried about terrorists exploiting the evacuation to gain access into the country? Oh yeah, because you all hate American and  would welcome those who want attack our country and kill your fellow country men! Why else?

The Bad Bad Orange man isn’t the only leader concerned about this -

https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-needs-security-screening-afghan-refugees-official-says/

https://www.wionews.com/world/nearly-100-afghan-evacuees-may-have-ties-with-islamic-state-reports-408262

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58311964

https://nypost.com/2021/08/25/afghan-evacuee-with-potential-isis-ties-detained-in-qatar-report/

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/press/rep/releases/grassley-to-biden-admin-dont-let-bad-actors-take-advantage-of-chaotic-afghanistan-withdrawal

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/23/people-posing-direct-threat-to-uk-found-among-potential-kabul-evacuees

The silliest thing is you are calling Trump a racist and claiming he would have left a bunch of “brown” collaborators behind to be killed by the Taliban. Yet, that’s exactly what Joe did and you don’t get a ****. You are full of bologna. 
 

just like Trump is a very bad man for “kids in cages” but you don’t give a rats *** for the kids Joe currently has crammed several times past capacity into those same cages. 

You know nothing on my stance of kids in cages. The last three Presidents have done it. I've seen the hypocrisy in all.

[F3SS]

3 minutes ago, South Alabam said:

Something is up with this guy from a medical standpoint, IMO. Maybe he has dementia or something as he does seem to stumble words and get confused etc..

Should he resign Mrs. Arrogant would be President. I watched her years ago way before anyone had thrown in a ticket to run for POTUS, and she was as arrogant and condescending to everyone who came before her she questioned in the Senate.

And here she is as VP. A heart beat away from President.

I agree. She's an empty shell. Our chain of command is a trip through Dantes Inferno. This whole thing is a nightmare scenario. If SAW was a political movie this would be the plot. 

[Vorg]

Just now, F3SS said:

I agree. She's an empty shell. Our chain of command is a trip through Dantes Inferno. This whole thing is a nightmare scenario. If SAW was a political movie this would be the plot. 

I agree. Rough times are ahead.

[acidhead]

 

Full Speech

 

[acidhead]

37 minutes ago, South Alabam said:

 

And here she is as VP. A heart beat away from President.

Affirmative action VP 

 

[el midgetron]

1 hour ago, South Alabam said:

That article was from 2019. Maybe you should have paid attention. Even after that article here's what Trump did. Former Pence aide says Trump and Stephen Miller fought against taking Afghan refugees with ‘racist hysteria’ | The Independent

“There were cabinet mtgs about this during the Trump Admin where Stephen Miller would peddle his racist hysteria about Iraq and Afghanistan” she wrote, adding that Mr Miller – a senior aide and speechwriter for Donald Trump – would undermine anyone who was trying to resolve the Special Immigrants Visa issue.

Ms Troye went on to say that while Mr Pence was fully aware of the problem, it was impossible to make progress because Mr Trump and Mr Miller had “watchdogs in place” at the Department of Justice, Homeland Security, State and security agencies to make the process even more difficult.

And why would a man who really cares what happened over there say a thing like this 12 hours ago? Like he really cared for the lives of the interpreters or their families.  Trump Says U.S. Should Have Hit Afghanistan Hard Years Ago and 'Let it Rot' (msn.com)      

It isn't hard for me to see why Trump pulled out of Afghanistan. By Aug of 2019 the judge had ordered them to work on their Special Visa programs to allow at risk Afghans a normal and not stalled process regarding the special Visa's.

Stephen Miller proactively fought anyone in regards to this as described in the first link. This was even after being ordered by the Judge.

Trump and Miller didn't want Afghans to continually keep coming over here so he decided to end the war in Afghanistan and by Feb 2020 had a deal in place just a few months after being ordered to work on the Visa program to allow Afghans over here. See how Trumps' mind works? This is the reason the war was to end. Nothing else.

And had it worked Trumps way, all US troops would have been out, before the Taliban would rise up putting at risk, all those that Biden just airlifted to safety. Trump had his plan in place and it didn't work. He didn't care at all for these people.

 

No, I get the article was from 2019. How does that make Trump more culpable than Obama? As the article clearly state the problem occurred in both Republican and democratic administrations. Or are we to excuse Obama because once someone isn’t in office any more (as the case was in 2019) that we don’t care about how they might have broken the law? Of course that’s not the case because here we are discussing a click-bait headline accusing Trump of breaking the law and he’s not president any more. 

Your Trump is a racist angle just falls flat when it’s Joe Biden who turned his back on all those brown people in Afghanistan. Obviously only a senile old racist would do something like that. What “racist” Trump might Hypothetically have done loses to what “racist” Biden did in reality every time.
 

Trump is a bad man for some conspiracy theory that says he would have abandoned our Afghanistan allies to the mercy of the Taliban. Let me introduce you to a man named Joe who made that conspiracy theory a reality.

Edited September 1, 2021 by el midgetron

[el midgetron]

59 minutes ago, acidhead said:

 

Full Speech

 

 

7:37 Joe’s focus shifts away from the teleprompter for a second.