Biden's botched Afghanistan exit is a disaster at home and abroad long in the making

[acidhead]

5 minutes ago, el midgetron said:

 

7:37 Joe’s focus shifts away from the teleprompter for a second.

 

TBH I liked his speech he gave today. On a whole, I thought he did well.

[acidhead]

God blessed America 

[acidhead]

Land of the FREE home of the BRAVE 

[DieChecker]

I didn't see this mentioned, but I read that the helos, and planes where disabled, so none would fly. Though I suppose they could have got one from the Afghan military. Didn't see a US or European source for this yet.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/videos/world-news/us-soldiers-disable-planes-before-leaving-afghanistan-taliban-s-airport-parade-101630405802950.html

Joe messed up some in his speech, and his last speech too. Said 90% of Americans escaped, when it was 98%.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/08/31/biden_90_percent_of_americans_in_afghanistan_who_wanted_to_leave_were_able_to_leave.html

His looking at his watch was a dozzy too. According to pictures, see link below, he did it every few minutes.

The story where one of the parents of one of the thirteen killed, said Joe spoke more about his son the about those killed, which passed off Joe, was amusing too.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9942119/He-talked-son-Fathers-troops-killed-Afghanistan-ISIS-K-blast-Biden.html

Edited September 1, 2021 by DieChecker

[itsnotoutthere]

9 hours ago, psyche101 said:

So you think getting one helicopter of the ground equals pilots 

Not the sharpest knife in the drawer are you. 

Don't be so naive, there are plenty of Russian and Chinese pilots willing to help them out and embarrass the Americans 

Edited September 1, 2021 by itsnotoutthere

[itsnotoutthere]

5 hours ago, psyche101 said:

They don't. I've provided a link.

Getting one helicopter of the ground does not equal a squadron of pilots capable of flying latest technology fighter jets. 

Your just a drama queen. 

Again, don't be so naive.

[psyche101]

32 minutes ago, itsnotoutthere said:

Don't be so naive, there are plenty of Russian and Chinese pilots willing to help them out and embarrass the Americans 

Then it's a world war isn't it. 

28 minutes ago, itsnotoutthere said:

Again, don't be so naive.

I'd say you have a lot of faith in a non technical culture.

[psyche101]

3 hours ago, acidhead said:

TBH I liked his speech he gave today. On a whole, I thought he did well.

WTF? 

[el midgetron]

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A leaked transcript and audio recording of a call between President Joe Biden and then-Afghan President Ashraf Ghani about three weeks before Kabul fell showed that as the Afghan president warned of a Taliban “invasion,” Biden pressed him to change the “perception.”

According to a report by Reuters, in a 14 minute call between Biden and Ghani on July 23, the Afghan president told Biden, “We are facing a full-scale invasion, composed of Taliban, full Pakistani planning and logistical support, and at least 10-15,000 international terrorists.”….

….Biden also told Ghani, “I need not tell you the perception around the world and in parts of Afghanistan, I believe, is that things are not going well in terms of the fight against the Taliban.”

“And there is a need, whether it is true or not, there is a need to project a different picture,” he told Ghani, and urged him tot give a press conference with Afghanistan’s prominent political figures backing a new military strategy.

“That will change perception, and that will change an awful lot I think,” Biden said…..

….Reuters noted that as the two presidents spoke, Taliban insurgents controlled about half of Afghanistan’s district centers, indicating a rapidly deteriorating security situation.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/01/afghan-president-warned-of-taliban-invasion-but-joe-biden-focused-on-perception/
 

[el midgetron]

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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) on Tuesday blocked the House from publicly reading the names of the 13 killed U.S. service members in Afghanistan, House Republicans said.

Rep. Brian Mast (R-FL) told the Floridan that Pelosi ignored the Republicans’ request to read the names, instead she “just closed the House down.”….

…..The denied Republican request comes as nearly 40 Republicans have called for president Biden to resign for stranding Americans and abandoning U.S. gear in Afghanistan.

When House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) attempted a House vote to “require” Biden to recover the military gear and Americans, Democrats blocked the vote. “Democrats just blocked a vote to require a plan from President Biden to bring Americans home and to account for all the military equipment he left behind,” McCarthy tweeted. “Republicans will not stop until every American is home safely.”

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/01/nancy-pelosi-blocks-house-from-reading-names-of-13-killed-u-s-service-members/

[quiXilver]

It's intriguing, how many armchair bureaucrats have got this all figured out from their google sources and know for certainty what played out behind the scenes and how it should have been done.

You folks should definitely apply for the job next time we're in the scenario.

very impressive.

[LV-426]

1 hour ago, quiXilver said:

It's intriguing, how many armchair bureaucrats have got this all figured out from their google sources and know for certainty what played out behind the scenes and how it should have been done.

You folks should definitely apply for the job next time we're in the scenario.

very impressive.

 

What else can you do?

You can attempt to navigate the cesspit of contemporary media and social media news with your sanity intact, form opinions, and share them on public forums...

...or you can travel back in time, become wealthy and successful enough to buy your way into a political career, then feck things up enough to make the headlines rather than discuss them!

[Electric Scooter]

14 hours ago, acidhead said:

Land of the FREE home of the BRAVE 

Veni, vidi, vici, fugi.

I came, I saw, I conquered, I ran away lol

Edited September 1, 2021 by Cookie Monster

[Electric Scooter]

The Taliban are currently learning how to fly American made helicopters thanks to American made flight simulators on their American made PCs.

[quiXilver]

29 minutes ago, LV-426 said:

 

What else can you do?

You can attempt to navigate the cesspit of contemporary media and social media news with your sanity intact, form opinions, and share them on public forums...

...or you can travel back in time, become wealthy and successful enough to buy your way into a political career, then feck things up enough to make the headlines rather than discuss them!

Or one could head to LV-426 and capitalize on the resources...

[el midgetron]

2 hours ago, quiXilver said:

It's intriguing, how many armchair bureaucrats have got this all figured out from their google sources and know for certainty what played out behind the scenes and how it should have been done.

You folks should definitely apply for the job next time we're in the scenario.

very impressive.

If your strong point is keeping your mouth shut and just going along with what you are told, go with that. 
 

We have Biden telling the Afghanistan President to pretend for the media that they were winning against the Taliban as the Taliban was taking over the country. Not sure what kind of non-armchair-bureaucrat can’t process that.

[LV-426]

10 minutes ago, quiXilver said:

Or one could head to LV-426 and capitalize on the resources...

 

I wouldn't recommend it, there are already enough UM posters that are on another planet!

[jmccr8]

23 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said:

The Taliban are currently learning how to fly American made helicopters thanks to American made flight simulators on their American made PCs.

The U.S.-supplied "rifles, plate carrier vests, and other infantry gear provide legitimate tactical value to the group's foot soldiers," The Washington Post reports, but "some of the captured equipment, like helicopters and attack planes, may be more useful for propaganda imagery than for everyday use." U.S. contractors maintained the Black Hawk helicopters, C-130 transport planes, and other aircraft that require expensive and hard-to-find parts, and the Taliban lacks the technical expertise to keep them airborne, even if they find pilots.

The Taliban were "significantly helpful" in enabling the U.S. and allied forces to airlift 122,000 people out of Kabul's airport in two weeks, McKenzie said, but they will have a hard time securing Kabul. When the Taliban swept through Afghanistan, freeing its fighters from prisons, it also swelled the ranks of ISIS-K to about 2,000 militants, he said. "Now they are going to be able to reap what they sowed."

https://theweek.com/afghanistan-war/1004338/the-us-destroyed-or-demilitarized-all-equipment-left-at-kabul-airport

[Grim Reaper 6]

On 9/1/2021 at 3:29 AM, itsnotoutthere said:

Ok I get it you miss your daddy and your brother. So here you go, this picture of your dad proves by his hairdo alone that he is a Frequent Flyer!!

[Grim Reaper 6]

8 hours ago, el midgetron said:

If your strong point is keeping your mouth shut and just going along with what you are told, go with that. 
 

We have Biden telling the Afghanistan President to pretend for the media that they were winning against the Taliban as the Taliban was taking over the country. Not sure what kind of non-armchair-bureaucrat can’t process that.

Your strong point is just the opposite as we all know. You can't stay quite, you must promote misinformation, disinformation, lies, propaganda, and conspiracy theories. Now that's not a bad thing for us though because it clearly proves you have no credibility!

Edited September 2, 2021 by Manwon Lender

[Grim Reaper 6]

8 hours ago, Cookie Monster said:

The Taliban are currently learning how to fly American made helicopters thanks to American made flight simulators on their American made PCs.

Um this is probably beyond your comprehension, but anyone who can fly a helicopter, can fly those aircraft too and they don't need a flight simulator for that. The only thing they actually need are the instruction manuals for the added systems and they can most likely get them online!

Just for your information!!

[Grim Reaper 6]

22 hours ago, DieChecker said:

I didn't see this mentioned, but I read that the helos, and planes where disabled, so none would fly. Though I suppose they could have got one from the Afghan military. Didn't see a US or European source for this yet.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/videos/world-news/us-soldiers-disable-planes-before-leaving-afghanistan-taliban-s-airport-parade-101630405802950.html

Joe messed up some in his speech, and his last speech too. Said 90% of Americans escaped, when it was 98%.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/08/31/biden_90_percent_of_americans_in_afghanistan_who_wanted_to_leave_were_able_to_leave.html

His looking at his watch was a dozzy too. According to pictures, see link below, he did it every few minutes.

The story where one of the parents of one of the thirteen killed, said Joe spoke more about his son the about those killed, which passed off Joe, was amusing too.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9942119/He-talked-son-Fathers-troops-killed-Afghanistan-ISIS-K-blast-Biden.html

It appears that the Afghan Military had a total of 150 Aircraft, however more than 70 were destroyed before the plane left Afghanistan along with some others very important equipment!

As the U.S. troops departed, they destroyed more than 70 aircraft, dozens of armored vehicles and disabled air defenses that had thwarted an attempted Islamic State rocket attack on the eve of the U.S. departure.

https://www.reuters.com/world/last-us-forces-leave-afghanistan-after-nearly-20-years-2021-08-30/

 

[Grim Reaper 6]

23 hours ago, acidhead said:

God blessed America 

You had Bless America it's the only thing keeping Canadians like you safe, Russia would have made Canada part of the Warsaw Pact if it wasn't for the US!

[acidhead]

4 minutes ago, Manwon Lender said:

You had Bless America it's the only thing keeping Canadians like you safe, Russia would have made Canada part of the Warsaw Pact if it wasn't for the US!

I can hear whitby air force base from my house here in Victoria, BC Canada.  It's the sound of Freedom! 

 

[psyche101]

9 minutes ago, acidhead said:

I can hear whitby air force base from my house here in Victoria, BC Canada.  It's the sound of Freedom! 

 

Put this in your car to complement it

 

Freedom is only a dollar a go!! 

 

You can tell when the Pommie planes land. You can still hear whining after the engines stop!!