UK will welcome thousands of new refugees

[Silver]

"Global Britain" will show its heart as it welcomes tens of thousands of refugees from Afghanistan. The UK is also welcoming up to 5 million refugees from Hong Kong.

The UK could never have done this if we had remained in the EU. The EU has already made plans to close its doors to further refugees, because it is made up of Sovereign Countries which rule themselves, while the UK has a Global Empire and rules the world: 

The UK could give refuge to tens of thousands of Afghans after the Taliban takeover as Dominic Raab vowed the government's response will be 'big-hearted'.

The Foreign Secretary said the resettlement scheme will be 'modelled' on the one that has allowed more than 20,300 Syrians to flee to this country over the last seven years. 

Women and girls – whose rights are feared to be in severe peril under the new Taliban regime – are expected to get special priority under the programme.

Mr Raab said Boris Johnson would 'set out the details in due course' - with more information due to emerge when the PM addresses the recalled Parliament tomorrow.

He also signalled that the UK's aid spending on Afghanistan is set to rise 10 per cent as the security assistance previously received by Kabul is axed. 

UK must welcome 'tens of thousands of Afghan refugees', urges Labour | Daily Mail Online

Edited August 17, 2021 by The Silver Shroud

[itsnotoutthere]

1 hour ago, The Silver Shroud said:

"Global Britain" will show its heart as it welcomes tens of thousands of refugees from Afghanistan. The UK is also welcoming up to 5 million refugees from Honk Kong.

The UK could never have done this if we had remained in the EU. The EU has already made plans to close its doors to further refugees: 

The UK could give refuge to tens of thousands of Afghans after the Taliban takeover as Dominic Raab vowed the government's response will be 'big-hearted'.

The Foreign Secretary said the resettlement scheme will be 'modelled' on the one that has allowed more than 20,300 Syrians to flee to this country over the last seven years. 

Women and girls – whose rights are feared to be in severe peril under the new Taliban regime – are expected to get special priority under the programme.

Mr Raab said Boris Johnson would 'set out the details in due course' - with more information due to emerge when the PM addresses the recalled Parliament tomorrow.

He also signalled that the UK's aid spending on Afghanistan is set to rise 10 per cent as the security assistance previously received by Kabul is axed. 

UK must welcome 'tens of thousands of Afghan refugees', urges Labour | Daily Mail Online

Yeh....good luck with that. :-

 

 

[Silver]

1 hour ago, itsnotoutthere said:

Yeh....good luck with that. :-

Now we are free of the EU, we are free to run this shuttle service every day! And we are not bound by the Dublin agreement anymore.

[itsnotoutthere]

Didn't help the germans or the swedes tho' did it.

Edited August 17, 2021 by itsnotoutthere

[L.A.T.1961]

The UK will do its bit as always.

At the moment that includes using UK special forces to allow flights to continue. Not just for the UK but other nations with a need to remove staff and others. 

Mean while in the EU everybody is blaming everybody else for the mess with virtually no actions to help.  -

Von der Leyen must act now to rescue Afghans working with EU missions.

At this very moment, the Taliban are walking from door to door in Kabul. The local personnel of the EU missions are in imminent danger in these hours.

The European Union has to act now, evacuate the local personnel of the EU missions and save their lives.

But instead of granting people unbureaucratic protection, we had to witness a dispute about a distribution formula within the EU. The European Commission and national governments are quarrelling about responsibilities.

https://www.euronews.com/2021/08/17/von-der-leyen-must-act-now-to-rescue-afghans-working-with-eu-missions-view

The benefits of the EU seems to be missing in action again. 

Berlin turns to blame game amid Afghanistan chaos 

https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-military-afghanistan-conflict-kabul-airport-annegret-kramp-karrenbauer/

 

Edited August 17, 2021 by L.A.T.1961

[ThereWeAreThen]

58 minutes ago, itsnotoutthere said:

Didn't help the germans or the swedes tho' did it.

Yes because all refugees are evil and commit crime. Where as us Brits are saints and dont do anything bad....

[itsnotoutthere]

Just now, ThereWeAreThen said:

Yes because all refugees are evil and commit crime. Where as us Brits are saints and dont do anything bad....

Just do a bit of research, it's not hard.

[ThereWeAreThen]

3 hours ago, itsnotoutthere said:

Just do a bit of research, it's not hard.

I'd recommend you do the same.

[itsnotoutthere]

35 minutes ago, ThereWeAreThen said:

I'd recommend you do the same.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42557828

[TigerBright19]

20,000 refugees coming to Britain.  Where exactly do they resettle?  Do we have refugee camps in Britain or do people outside Britain with no British status get priority housing?  Just curious as I walk passed so many homeless guys each day.

 

Afghanistan: 20,000 refugees to resettle in the UK under PM's plan - but critics say it's not enough | Politics News | Sky News

 

 

[Silver]

12 minutes ago, TigerBright19 said:

20,000 refugees coming to Britain.  Where exactly do they resettle?  Do we have refugee camps in Britain or do people outside Britain with no British status get priority housing?  Just curious as I walk passed so many homeless guys each day.

 

Afghanistan: 20,000 refugees to resettle in the UK under PM's plan - but critics say it's not enough | Politics News | Sky News

 

 

The first few of many thousands are arriving. 20,000 estimated, probably 50,000-100,000 in reality. Plus we have up to a million new HK refugees on the way that the government has accepted. In the UK a village may have 1000 - 6,000 inhabitants, a small town about 10-20,000. We don't have refugee camps and we don't have new social housing, though I should imagine social housing must be high on the agenda now.

When a new town is built, the contractors work in alliance with the local councils,  so that roads, schools, medical surgeries, pet surgeries, churches, cemeteries, social clubs etc are built in harmony. There will be a bit of a battle over all this relocation.

Mr Johnson will announce details of the refugee scheme on Wednesday as Parliament is recalled to discuss the crisis, with many of the MPs returning from their summer recess expected to savage the West's handling of events.

A total of 20,000 Afghan refugees will be given the right to live here - with 5,000 expected in the first year - plus an additional 5,000 under the programme for translators and their families.

Last night Mr Johnson said the country owed 'a debt of gratitude' to all those who had helped 'make Afghanistan a better place over the last 20 years'.

UK Home | Daily Mail Online

Edited August 17, 2021 by The Silver Shroud

[TigerBright19]

Silly question, but why can't the refugees just settle in the countries that are beside Afghanistan e.g. Pakistan?  If we still owned British India would we ask the refugees to settle there?

 

 

[Silver]

12 minutes ago, TigerBright19 said:

Silly question, but why can't the refugees just settle in the countries that are beside Afghanistan e.g. Pakistan?  If we still owned British India would we ask the refugees to settle there?

 

 

 

42.4 per cent of 1,000 homes sit unused in The City of London, making it the British council with the highest proportion of empty houses. It is also the only London council to feature in the national top 10.26 Jul 2021.

No one wants poor refuges. If they had money there would be no problem.

[Silver]

The first of 10s of thousands of refugees land at Brize Norton.

Gammons choke on their breakfasts as they realise Brexit was for nothing, as we no longer live in the 19th century. What will it take to get England back to the days of the British Empire, they ask?:

Joy and despair in desperate battle to flee Kabul: First UK mercy mission lands at Brize Norton as Boris Johnson pledges to take in 25,000 refugees in coming years - but thousands remain trapped in Afghan capital with Taliban firing on crowds

First RAF rescue mission repatriating British nationals and Afghan evacuees landed at Brize Norton last night

There are at least 56,000 foreign nationals who need evacuating from Taliban-run Afghanistan 

But in Brize Norton last night, people were seen disembarking an RAF Voyager A330 aircraft - with passengers pictured peering over the tops of their facemasks through the plane windows and giving photographers on the tarmac below thumbs-ups. 

Joy and despair in battle to flee Afghanistan: UK mission due at Brize Norton but thousands in Kabul | Daily Mail Online

Edited August 18, 2021 by The Silver Shroud

[Silver]

The Taliban tell lies in their first press conference after "liberating " Afghanistan. Why would anyone in the West believe lies? Oh, of course it is normal in politics now:

A tricky 24 hours, PR wise, for the Taliban, what with the reports of door to door executions and those pictures of people so desperate to get away from it that they’d sooner take their zero per cent chances and cling to the landing gear of evacuation flights out of Kabul airport.

Time for a press conference, then. That’ll sort things out. Wheel out the lecterns, welcome in the cameras and put a few concerns to rest.

But come on. Let’s give them a chance. Those stories from a few weeks ago, when these guys (and on this occasion, we really *do* mean guys) were marching down to Kabul, and peasant women who didn’t have the means to cook for them were beaten to death with the butts of Kalashnikovs; well, maybe there are a few rogue elements within the Taliban, but they’re working to get on top of those.

And more to the point, it could have been worse. It’s not like they’ve spent £2.9m of taxpayers money on a room in which to hold press conferences then decided not to hold them after all. It’s not like anyone from the Taliban sat there and honestly tried to claim he’d only driven a tank into Kabul to test his eyesight.

The Taliban held a press conference and told some lies. I wonder where that idea came from? | The Independent

Edited August 18, 2021 by The Silver Shroud

[Silver]

3 hours ago, TigerBright19 said:

Silly question, but why can't the refugees just settle in the countries that are beside Afghanistan e.g. Pakistan?  If we still owned British India would we ask the refugees to settle there?

 

 

yes it is

[itsnotoutthere]

8 hours ago, TigerBright19 said:

Silly question, but why can't the refugees just settle in the countries that are beside Afghanistan e.g. Pakistan?  If we still owned British India would we ask the refugees to settle there?

 

 

Lousy benefits system.

[Setton]

11 hours ago, TigerBright19 said:

Silly question, but why can't the refugees just settle in the countries that are beside Afghanistan e.g. Pakistan?  If we still owned British India would we ask the refugees to settle there?

 

 

Because it wasn't Pakistani lives they risked themselves for. It was our lives and we owe them a debt.

[ThereWeAreThen]

11 hours ago, The Silver Shroud said:

 

42.4 per cent of 1,000 homes sit unused in The City of London, making it the British council with the highest proportion of empty houses. It is also the only London council to feature in the national top 10.26 Jul 2021.

No one wants poor refuges. If they had money there would be no problem.

Theres empty derilict properties all over the UK. Landlords are leaving them cause they get grants for t hem.

[L.A.T.1961]

UK evacuation seems to be going reasonably well -

Aug 18 (Reuters) - Britain has managed to remove around 1,000 people a day from Afghanistan

after the Taliban seized control of the country, interior minister Priti Patel said on Wednesday.

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-getting-1000-out-day-afghanistan-interior-minister-says-2021-08-18/?rpc=401&

 

Others are struggling. -

Dutch evacuation effort fails as empty plane departs Kabul

https://www.politico.eu/article/netherlands-evacuation-afghanistan-airplane-kabul-airport/

 

 

 

[TigerBright19]

2 hours ago, Setton said:

Because it wasn't Pakistani lives they risked themselves for. It was our lives and we owe them a debt.

The Afghan citizens risked their lives for ordinary Brits and we owe the refugees a debt?  Don't you mean the opposite e.g.  The Brits risked their lives for ordinary Afghan citizens and they owe us a debt.  The only reason I think of which explains the trafficking of Afghans to Britain is that somebody is paying the government to accept them, and they can be exploited as cheap labour, and perhaps are more likely to vote for the hand that feeds them.  Covert British slave trade.

 

 

Edited August 18, 2021 by TigerBright19

[Setton]

1 hour ago, TigerBright19 said:

The Afghan citizens risked their lives for ordinary Brits and we owe the refugees a debt?  Don't you mean the opposite e.g.  The Brits risked their lives for ordinary Afghan citizens and they owe us a debt.  

I meant what I said. You didn't risk anything for anyone. The people coming here are the ones who translated for our soldiers, who went into the places we couldn't to get us information, who guarded our civilians in embassies.

And who will be killed if we don't take them in. 

And you think they owe you?

[itsnotoutthere]

Afghan women filmed begging for help from US troops at gates of Kabul airport

 

Distressed women stretched through iron gates at the capital’s airport, and could be heard crying for help from armed soldiers.

“The Taliban are coming for me,” one woman could be heard screaming.

As many as 50,000 Afghans have gathered at the capital’s airport in hopes of evacuation.

But while some Western nations, including the US, Britain, Canada and Germany have pledged to take in thousands of Afghan refugees, a number of flights from Kabul to those countries reportedly left half-empty.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/afghan-women-filmed-begging-for-help-from-us-troops-at-gates-of-kabul-airport/ar-AANsCtN?ocid=uxbndlbing

[TigerBright19]

56 minutes ago, Setton said:

I meant what I said. You didn't risk anything for anyone. The people coming here are the ones who translated for our soldiers, who went into the places we couldn't to get us information, who guarded our civilians in embassies.

And who will be killed if we don't take them in. 

And you think they owe you?

I'm referring to the ordinary Afghan citizen refugees.  e.g. Germany accepted a million Syrian refugees.  It is inevitable that Afghanistan will break into civil war and countries across Europe will accept waves of immigrants (many which naturally will be unvetted and contain terrorists that will go under the radar until the next attack in Europe).  It is a disaster in the making.  We should make a second offensive into Afghanistan and divide the country into sectors, just as Ireland, India, Israel, Germany, and Korea were all divided to maintain the peace.

 

 

Edited August 18, 2021 by TigerBright19

[Setton]

27 minutes ago, TigerBright19 said:

I'm referring to the ordinary Afghan citizen refugees.  e.g. Germany accepted a million Syrian refugees.  It is inevitable that Afghanistan will break into civil war and countries across Europe will accept waves of immigrants (many which naturally will be unvetted and contain terrorists that will go under the radar until the next attack in Europe).  It is a disaster in the making.  We should make a second offensive into Afghanistan and divide the country into sectors, just as Ireland, India, Israel, Germany, and Korea were all divided to maintain the peace.

Because that works so well.

You do realise the main reason the middle East is so ****ed up is because we tried to divide it up after each world war?