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jethrofloyd

The Flat-Earth believers number is rising

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jethrofloyd

Just come across an article about rising numbers of Flat-Earth supporters. Why are numbers of the flat-earhers rising?

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Piney
27 minutes ago, jethrofloyd said:

Just come across an article about rising numbers of Flat-Earth supporters. Why are numbers of the flat-earhers rising?

Don't worry. Covid or something stronger will fix that. 

It's doing some nice work on conspiridiots and American Evangelicals. :yes:

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zep73
13 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said:

I don't believe the numbers are rising, I think someone made that up.

I hope, for the future of mankind, that you are right.

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Desertrat56
3 hours ago, jethrofloyd said:

Just come across an article about rising numbers of Flat-Earth supporters. Why are numbers of the flat-earhers rising?

My opinion is that it is due to lack of education in critical thinking, science and math.  

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ChrLzs

There's another term for FE believers... "mostly trolls". :D 

 

But as a side comment, amongst the thousands of ways you can 'prove' the earth is round is this rather fancy one - I'd love to see a couple of FE'ers take on this fairly simple challenge and explain the results...

Requirements:
One FE believer living in the Northern hemisphere, mid latitude.  One FE believer living in the Southern hemisphere, mid latitude.  Both must have reasonably good telephoto cameras (eg HD video camcorders), and have an internet connection.

Process
Using a forum (or FB or whatever), message each other until you both have a clear night and good view of the Moon.  It should be at least half full for best results.  Set up the cameras, and at the same time, video the horizon for reference, and then pan up to the Moon.  Zoom right in - you'll need to be able to see the surface patterns (may need to adjust the exposure setting - the Moon is as bright as daylight..).

 

As an example of what will happen, here's a shot of MY moon, taken from my location at about 25 degrees south of the equator..
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So what....?  Well, here's an example of a moon shot taken by someone in the northern hemisphere (from the Moon wiki):
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Look carefully. Notice how it is quite significantly rotated?  It is rotated by the exact number of degrees difference in latitudes...  As it has to be for two people standing at obviously different angles on the surface of our round planet.  If the earth was flat, EVERY picture of the moon would be the same angle, as every one would be standing vertically on a flat plane...  

Please explain, genuine flat earthers.

  

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Desertrat56

How can we answer the question if we haven't read the article you refer to?

I don't believe the numbers are rising, I think someone made that up.

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Piney
19 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said:

I don't believe the numbers are rising, I think someone made that up.

Like the way the Jahbloovie Witnesses and ICOC do. ^_^

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quiXilver
21 hours ago, Desertrat56 said:

My opinion is that it is due to lack of education in critical thinking, science and math.  

+1 from me

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diddyman68
On 9/16/2021 at 10:02 PM, jethrofloyd said:

I think the headline contradicts itself a bit.:yes:  

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theSOURCE

Those people are idiots. Everyone knows the Earth is square.

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Desertrat56

It is so weird.  My friend came for a visit Saturday and she asked if I had ever met a flat earther.  I have not, I am suspecting they are not real, but we discussed them and both concluded that anyone who has that belief is like a religious person who will not admit evidence that they are misquoting the bible even when you show them the actual words.

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On September 16, 2021 at 2:02 PM, jethrofloyd said:

Just come across an article about rising numbers of Flat-Earth supporters. Why are numbers of the flat-earhers rising?

  We are a rising  Percentage  ...because round earthers keep walking off the edge.    

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Cookie Monster
On 9/20/2021 at 7:37 PM, Desertrat56 said:

It is so weird.  My friend came for a visit Saturday and she asked if I had ever met a flat earther.  I have not, I am suspecting they are not real, but we discussed them and both concluded that anyone who has that belief is like a religious person who will not admit evidence that they are misquoting the bible even when you show them the actual words.

For the Earth to be flat is not impossible, but it would require some exotic physics.

None of us can visually experience a 3D object. If you put a ball in front of you then you can only see one side. Put a video camera around the back and the image it presents is only one side. Your eyes would have to be capable of seeing it from all sides at once and then you would require a brain that could bring all that information together to create a 3D object in your mind. We have neither. 

The Flat Earthers would require some exotic physics to make an unobserved side cease to exist. That would be like quantum mechanics but only affecting the unobserved side of an object.

I have never met a Flat Earther, or listened to one on YouTube that was intelligent enough or knew enough to make the above argument.

Straight up I can even think of an experiment to test it. Create a large weakly magnetic sphere (lets say 100 metres radius). Cover the reverse side with iron fillings and photograph their layout. Put all this setup in a controlled environment so nothing like wind can alter the layout of the iron filings.

Go sit around the front, maybe have a brew and read the paper for an hour. Then walk around the reverse side, take a new photo of the layout of the iron filings, and then compare both images. Are they identical or has their been some change? Change equals quantum wavy behaviour, which means those iron filings became probability waves, which means there is wavy behaviour going on around the reverse side of the sphere. That would prove the Flat Earth Theory.

What would be key is spending a few million on the experiment to definitely make sure nothing can disrupt the location of the iron filings in the experiment. Also the time the reverse side needs to be left alone needs to be precisely calculated as while the thickness of the sphere dampens down the flow of information to the observer, we are still dealing with macroscopic objects (the sphere and the filings).

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Cookie Monster

Actually, I revise the experiment.

We already have a planet we can do it on and as we would be trying to test if the `Earth is Flat` it would be more appropriate to use the globe we already have. We need to show that we can induce quantum behaviour in a macroscopic object through the simple act of locating around the opposite side of the planet.

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The Silver Shroud
On 9/20/2021 at 7:37 PM, Desertrat56 said:

It is so weird.  My friend came for a visit Saturday and she asked if I had ever met a flat earther.  I have not, I am suspecting they are not real, but we discussed them and both concluded that anyone who has that belief is like a religious person who will not admit evidence that they are misquoting the bible even when you show them the actual words.

That fella in a rocket killed himself trying to prove it. I think he discounted all evidence unless he could see it with his own eyes:'Mad' Mike Hughes dies after crash-landing homemade rocket - BBC News

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ThereWeAreThen

I think most of them are just doing it for attention, money or have something wrong with them. I've seen enough videos to convince me.

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Manwon Lender
6 minutes ago, ThereWeAreThen said:

I think most of them are just doing it for attention, money or have something wrong with them. I've seen enough videos to convince me.

I actually think that their groups of Individuals who follow alternative historical beliefs in a cult like manner. There is no logical reason in this day and age to make such claims use you are brainwashed. It's like the indivuals that claim the Moon Missions were fake and filmed in Hollywood, the people who push these Conspiracy Theories are not playing with a full deck. Because a couple of recent NASA Probe missions recently circled the Moon and photographed the landing sites and the equipment left behind and even the rover tracks are clearly visible. 

In my opinion the people who perpetuate these Conspiracy Theories should have caught the Comet the that the Heaven Gate Cult caught!:lol:

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ThereWeAreThen
2 minutes ago, Manwon Lender said:

I actually think that their groups of Individuals who follow alternative historical beliefs in a cult like manner. There is no logical reason in this day and age to make such claims use you are brainwashed. It's like the indivuals that claim the Moon Missions were fake and filmed in Hollywood, the people who push these Conspiracy Theories are not playing with a full deck. Because a couple of recent NASA Probe missions recently circled the Moon and photographed the landing sites and the equipment left behind and even the rover tracks are clearly visible. 

In my opinion the people who perpetuate these Conspiracy Theories should have caught the Comet the that the Heaven Gate Cult caught!:lol:

Have you noticed that with most of these conspiracy theory they call have something in common? They're all anti-government. Thats where it usually falls to. "Oh the government are just trying to control us".

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Manwon Lender
2 minutes ago, ThereWeAreThen said:

Have you noticed that with most of these conspiracy theory they call have something in common? They're all anti-government. Thats where it usually falls to. "Oh the government are just trying to control us".

I know what you mean man, thanks god we don't have any of those types here on this forum!:lol:

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Manwon Lender
5 minutes ago, ThereWeAreThen said:

Have you noticed that with most of these conspiracy theory they call have something in common? They're all anti-government. Thats where it usually falls to. "Oh the government are just trying to control us".

I can actually prove that it could not possible be true, because this would have happened a long time ago!:w00t::lol:

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jmccr8
On 9/16/2021 at 12:02 PM, jethrofloyd said:

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ThereWeAreThen
4 hours ago, Manwon Lender said:

I can actually prove that it could not possible be true, because this would have happened a long time ago!:w00t::lol:

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But then...

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Dunno looks pretty convincing to me.:whistle:

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Cookie Monster
4 hours ago, ThereWeAreThen said:

I think most of them are just doing it for attention, money or have something wrong with them. I've seen enough videos to convince me.

Having watched their annual conference on YouTube and interviews on chat shows I personally think most of them are doing it as a form of trolling which brings them a lot of entertainment. And the more someone engages with the idiot the more they feed off it.

I haven`t seen one with unusual thought provoking arguments, which is why I watched it looking for some. No new thinking, no super geniuses which could throw physics up in the air. I was kind of disappointed, although the idiocy of some of the arguments was funny to watch.

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