Minneapolis to vote on abolishing the police department

[jmccr8]

2 hours ago, WVK said:

 

Being a bad a## Mfer is not unique to any group of people

[papageorge1]

4 hours ago, LV-426 said:

 

The problem is that the media, particularly social media, have so much power and influence these days that they are creating news rather than reporting it. They are changing the very fabric of society.

 

Nonsense is en vogue.

I agree with you. I wonder though if we are still in the early adolescent phase of internet and cable TV culture. Hopefully, as we mature as a society, the nonsense will eventually get seen and relegated to nonsense and it won't hold the power to enflame emotions like it does  now.

[Doug1066]

1 hour ago, spartan max2 said:

Do you have a source for them needing fewer police officers, and then cutting those police officers?

I'm aware of programs where non-violent calls are being responded to by other professionals.

Which I guess is a little cheaper by not paying people what they are worth. 

The city says the cuts in police funding are for fiscal reasons.  The important point is that they thought this the best place to take the money from:

https://www.denverpost.com/2020/09/18/denver-police-budget-2021/

Here is the list of 112 recommendations made by the task force:

http://www.denvertaskforce.org/uploads/1/2/5/5/125541169/reimagining__public_safety__recommendations_.pdf

Here are some articles that say more-or-less the same thing.

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/task-force-lays-out-112-recommendations-to-change-policing-and-public-safety-in-denver

https://www.denverpost.com/2021/05/21/denver-police-reform-task-force-report/

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/07/police-reform-law-colorado/614269/

Doug

[Doug1066]

13 hours ago, Doug1066 said:

The City of Pagosa West in Colorado never had a police department.  Theirs has always been a department of public safety, combining the rolls of fire, police, ambulance and emergency services into one.  The emphasis is one of community service rather than the "get everybody" attitude of police (only) departments.  Besides, Colorado has abolished qualified immunity so that police misbehavior can be punished by anybody with standing filing a lawsuit against the offending officer personally.  Minnesota needs to abolish qualified immunity and civil forfeiture as part of its police reform package.

The person in charge of Pagosa West Public Safety is a hispanic, so minority issues aren't a problem, either.

Doug

I called it Pagosa West because that was the name when I lived there.  The new name is Pagosa Lakes.

Doug

[WVK]

1 hour ago, jmccr8 said:

Being a bad a## Mfer is not unique to any group of people

correct, the culture come from people of Scotland, Ireland northern England who settled in southern  USA as told I here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdRBCFaslbo

 

[LV-426]

1 hour ago, papageorge1 said:

I agree with you. I wonder though if we are still in the early adolescent phase of internet and cable TV culture. Hopefully, as we mature as a society, the nonsense will eventually get seen and relegated to nonsense and it won't hold the power to enflame emotions like it does  now.

 

I don't know.

As a grumpy semi-old cynic, I'm more inclined to think we're heading towards the plot of Idiocracy