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Bridge to Ireland postponed indefinitely

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“You’ll have to wait til the spending review and the integrated rail plan, which is also coming out,” he told reporters.

“It will be wonderful for all parts of the north, northeast, northwest, Leeds, Derby, Newcastle, Liverpool, Manchester. We have wonderful plans.

“What I would say, perhaps, about the tunnel/bridge is perhaps, although it remains an ambition, it’s not the most immediate. It will be delivered substantially after the rest of the programme … just described.”

With even the first phase of HS2, linking Birmingham to London, not due for completion until between 2028-31, Mr Johnson’s comments indicate that he does not expect an Irish Sea bridge to go ahead during his time in office.

It is not yet known how much public money has been spent on considering the PM’s proposals for a fixed link crossing the Irish Sea.

An earlier plan for a garden bridge across the River Thames in London, vigorously promoted by Mr Johnson while the city’s mayor, was ditched in 2017 at a cost of £43m to the taxpayer.

Boris Johnson gives up dream of bridge to Ireland | The Independent

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Br Cornelius

Now there's a surprise :wub:

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third_eye

Good, now he can concentrate on finding out how many children he truly has... 

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1 hour ago, third_eye said:

Good, now he can concentrate on finding out how many children he truly has... 

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Or how to run a country properly.

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L.A.T.1961

I'm not sure how you can postpone something which has yet to reach the drawing board. ;)

But the idea will have made some ripples as the scots are being shown that if they want to enjoy the benefits of big infrastructure projects independence is not an option, Scotland could never pay for something like this on their own.   

This is why the SNP greeted the idea with disdain when it was originally suggested. it highlighted the down side to an independent Scotland. 

It will be interesting to see if the SNP complain about being shunned when it comes to spending in Scotland or keep quiet.

I would suspect the latter. ;)
 

 

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2 hours ago, L.A.T.1961 said:

I'm not sure how you can postpone something which has yet to reach the drawing board. ;)

But the idea will have made some ripples as the scots are being shown that if they want to enjoy the benefits of big infrastructure projects independence is not an option, Scotland could never pay for something like this on their own.   

This is why the SNP greeted the idea with disdain when it was originally suggested. it highlighted the down side to an independent Scotland. 

It will be interesting to see if the SNP complain about being shunned when it comes to spending in Scotland or keep quiet.

I would suspect the latter. ;)
 

 

What guff, the UK were never going to go ahead with this massive white elephant. It was just a way to puff up their allies the DUP.
It was never a real plan - ever, and no the UK could never have been able to afford this, just as they can barely afford to build HS2.

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RAyMO

this ^^

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Cookie Monster

A bridge to Ireland isn`t going to be cost effective., the goods already come in via ship. 

What we really need is a hyperloop to the USA, and one from the USA to China.

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L.A.T.1961
1 minute ago, Br Cornelius said:

What guff, the UK were never going to go ahead with this massive white elephant. 
Br Cornelius

Would you have said this about the channel tunnel ?

Or the Humber bridge. ;) 

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4 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said:

A bridge to Ireland isn`t going to be cost effective., the goods already come in via ship. 

What we really need is a hyperloop to the USA, and one from the USA to China.

It would be more symbolic than anything else.

So the EU should be very keen on it. :lol:

But if you use the EU's assessment for the need and importance for a border, due to the size of trade, then presumably it would be very popular and useful. ;)

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5 minutes ago, L.A.T.1961 said:

It would be more symbolic than anything else.

So the EU should be very keen on it. :lol:

But if you use the EU's assessment for the need and importance for a border, due to the size of trade, then presumably it would be very popular and useful. ;)

I would like the hyperloop.

A hyperloop from the factory (China) to all of CANZUK + USA. Then we can pretend Europe doesnt exist anymore and let them go off and do their own thing. At the same time we can be with our own kind (except the factory).

I think our own kind includes Ireland so we need to find a way of getting them to leave the EU and to come onboard.  

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Br Cornelius
33 minutes ago, L.A.T.1961 said:

Would you have said this about the channel tunnel ?

Or the Humber bridge. ;) 

the channel tunnel has paid for itself many times over, a bridge to a backwater never could.

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L.A.T.1961
58 minutes ago, Br Cornelius said:

the channel tunnel has paid for itself many times over

 

You might say that. But -

Soon after the start of operations, Eurotunnel reached a delicate financial situation which resulted from the escalation of construction costs, a large overestimation of the cross-Channel market and the underestimation of the cross-Channel ferry operators’ competitive response which led to a very damaging price war.

Despite the financial restructuring completed in 1998 Eurotunnel’s finances remained fragile to the point that in 2007 a second and major restructuring was required, which involved a debt write-off of £3,400 million and reduced the shareholder stake to just 13%.

The economic analysis of the project suggests that the Tunnel cannot be considered to be a success given the very large amounts of resources used to construct an expensive piece of infrastructure which only provides a marginal advantage over long established ferry services.

https://algnewsletter.com/land-transportation/the-channel-tunnel-success-or-failure/

 

I think the tunnel was a good idea, it increases choice and competition. :tu:

But a lot of investors had to take a hair cut to make it work financially. 

The channel tunnel was more symbolic than anything else, which is why the politicians at the time in UK and Europe liked it. 

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43 minutes ago, L.A.T.1961 said:

You might say that. But -

Soon after the start of operations, Eurotunnel reached a delicate financial situation which resulted from the escalation of construction costs, a large overestimation of the cross-Channel market and the underestimation of the cross-Channel ferry operators’ competitive response which led to a very damaging price war.

Despite the financial restructuring completed in 1998 Eurotunnel’s finances remained fragile to the point that in 2007 a second and major restructuring was required, which involved a debt write-off of £3,400 million and reduced the shareholder stake to just 13%.

The economic analysis of the project suggests that the Tunnel cannot be considered to be a success given the very large amounts of resources used to construct an expensive piece of infrastructure which only provides a marginal advantage over long established ferry services.

https://algnewsletter.com/land-transportation/the-channel-tunnel-success-or-failure/

I think the tunnel was a good idea, it increases choice and competition. :tu:

But a lot of investors had to take a hair cut to make it work financially. 

The channel tunnel was more symbolic than anything else, which is why the politicians at the time in UK and Europe liked it. 

A good old fashioned symbolic closing would complete our divorce from Europe lmao.

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