Eldorado Posted September 24, 2021 #1 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Fluoride is expected to be added to drinking water across the country after Britain’s chief medical officers concluded that the mineral would cut tooth decay. Chris Whitty, the chief medical officer for England, and his counterparts in Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland cited estimates by Public Health England that adding more fluoride to water supplies would reduce cavities by 17% among the richest children and 28% among the poorest. They also dismissed safety concerns saying there is no evidence that ionised form of the element fluorine causes cancer and condemned “exaggerated and unevidenced” suggestions about health risks. Guardian report 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.A.T.1961 Posted September 24, 2021 #2 Share Posted September 24, 2021 It was introduced in my area while at school in about the late 1960's. I remember the taste did change and I stopped drinking water with my lunch at school. Over time I have developed dental fluorosis, which is a mottling on the teeth in the form of white lines or patches. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acute Posted September 24, 2021 #3 Share Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) Birmingham water has had fluoride added for my whole life, I believe. I like the taste of our water, but it looks everso slightly green, probably because of the Welsh people maliciously peeing (and worse) in the reservoirs. Edited September 24, 2021 by acute 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.A.T.1961 Posted September 24, 2021 #4 Share Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) 40 minutes ago, acute said: Birmingham water has had fluoride added for my whole life, I believe. I like the taste of our water, but it looks everso slightly green, probably because of the Welsh people maliciously peeing (and worse) in the reservoirs. It is the chlorine I find most annoying, although not usually an issue the amount used must vary occasionally and can be easily tasted from the tap, or when running a bath when the smell is obvious. I fitted a water filter to the kitchen tap and it eliminates any chlorine taste. Edited September 24, 2021 by L.A.T.1961 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted September 24, 2021 #5 Share Posted September 24, 2021 I dont understand why this is being done. Well actually I do, its communism. Lets have a national campaign encouraging those who are at risk of cavities developing to maybe once per mouth swallow their toothpaste. Dont force that toxic garbage onto the rest of us. I only drink bottled water, but if this happens I will have to start pouring that into the kettle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen of Annoy Posted September 24, 2021 #6 Share Posted September 24, 2021 13 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said: I dont understand why this is being done. Well actually I do, its communism. Lets have a national campaign encouraging those who are at risk of cavities developing to maybe once per mouth swallow their toothpaste. Dont force that toxic garbage onto the rest of us. I only drink bottled water, but if this happens I will have to start pouring that into the kettle. You think communists can't poison your bottled water? It's even easier to target specific population with bottled water, because they can warn the members of Communist International to avoid the brand that's being p***ed in. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted September 24, 2021 #7 Share Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Helen of Annoy said: You think communists can't poison your bottled water? It's even easier to target specific population with bottled water, because they can warn the members of Communist International to avoid the brand that's being p***ed in. Well maybe the cheap commie brands. Buy decent capitalist brands! Or do as my grandad did, and collect rainwater in barrels in the garden. Edited September 24, 2021 by Cookie Monster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen of Annoy Posted September 24, 2021 #8 Share Posted September 24, 2021 48 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said: Well maybe the cheap commie brands. Buy decent capitalist brands! Or do as my grandad did, and collect rainwater in barrels in the garden. How naive are you? They're evil, not stupid, of course they'll infiltrate the luxurious brands first. Rainwater?! Chemtrails condensed! Even if there were no chemtrails, rain is still too polluted to be used as drinking water. Only rainwater in which frogs can survive is safe, so you must let frogs in your drinking rainwater supply, which means you'll drink water in which frogs bathed, took dumps and mated. But that's small price to pay in your personal battle against communists who want to fix your teeth. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV-426 Posted September 24, 2021 #9 Share Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) It doesn't take very long for conversations to get weird on UM does it? I have to say though, if Russians are p***ing in my Evian, it adds a little flavour! Edited September 24, 2021 by LV-426 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittens Are Jerks Posted September 24, 2021 #10 Share Posted September 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Cookie Monster said: I dont understand why this is being done. Well actually I do, its communism. Communist Canada has been fluoridating its water since the 1940s. That's why we all have such great smiles. Whilst the benefits of fluoridated water have been well studied and documented, it can also pose health risks to some. That is why it has to be extremely well regulated and monitored. And although the debate as to its safety is far from over, it is important to note that many studies claiming adverse health effects report on areas where there are high levels of fluoride occurring naturally in the water supply. Fluoridation does not affect the taste or smell of drinking water by the way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ouija ouija Posted September 24, 2021 #11 Share Posted September 24, 2021 They want to reduce cavities? How about banning sugar? Then diabetes can be avoided at the same time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen of Annoy Posted September 24, 2021 #12 Share Posted September 24, 2021 1 hour ago, LV-426 said: It doesn't take very long for conversations to get weird on UM does it? I have to say though, if Russians are p***ing in my Evian, it adds a little flavour! Yes, Russians p***ing in Evian is what makes it so addictive, since it makes it 17% alcohol. Seriously now, Russia is not communist. Never was, by the way, but the important thing is that Russia is definitely not communist today. Neither is fluoridated water, use of which might be debated, as Kittens nicely explained, but it's not a sign of communism. It's so bizarre to see communists in fluoridated water (especially since it's an American thing) it inspired me for some morbid humour. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen of Annoy Posted September 24, 2021 #13 Share Posted September 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, ouija ouija said: They want to reduce cavities? How about banning sugar? Then diabetes can be avoided at the same time Now, that's fascism. And diabetes type I can't be prevented with ascetic food. While type II can be controlled without completely banning food worth eating. (Not that I personally like sweets, but after someone bans sugar they'll come for my bacon next. Solidarity is the matter of common sense.) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autochthon1990 Posted September 24, 2021 #14 Share Posted September 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Cookie Monster said: I dont understand why this is being done. Well actually I do, its communism. Lets have a national campaign encouraging those who are at risk of cavities developing to maybe once per mouth swallow their toothpaste. Dont force that toxic garbage onto the rest of us. I only drink bottled water, but if this happens I will have to start pouring that into the kettle. What does trying to keep people from getting tooth decay have to do with an economic system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittens Are Jerks Posted September 24, 2021 #15 Share Posted September 24, 2021 14 minutes ago, ouija ouija said: They want to reduce cavities? How about banning sugar? Then diabetes can be avoided at the same time I wouldn't advocate a total ban, but sugar (and sweeteners) are so toxic, they should, at the very least, be regulated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV-426 Posted September 24, 2021 #16 Share Posted September 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Helen of Annoy said: And diabetes type I can't be prevented with ascetic food. While type II can be controlled without completely banning food worth eating. (Not that I personally like sweets, but after someone bans sugar they'll come for my bacon next. Solidarity is the matter of common sense.) It's always good to see that distinction made. It annoys the hell out of me when news stories lump Type I and Type II into generic "diabetes." I've been Type I since a child, and it was nothing to do with diet. In fact there is currently no known cause, whereas Type II has known risk factors such as weight and ethnicity. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted September 24, 2021 #17 Share Posted September 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Helen of Annoy said: You think communists can't poison your bottled water? It's even easier to target specific population with bottled water, because they can warn the members of Communist International to avoid the brand that's being p***ed in. Stop being silly and check your water. I think they do something to yours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen of Annoy Posted September 24, 2021 #18 Share Posted September 24, 2021 10 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said: Stop being silly and check your water. I think they do something to yours Nah, I'm like this naturally. Easily annoyed with idiotic, ignorant blathering. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted September 24, 2021 #19 Share Posted September 24, 2021 11 minutes ago, Helen of Annoy said: Nah, I'm like this naturally. Easily annoyed with idiotic, ignorant blathering. You remind me of a stereotypical Eastern European woman. One that is quite feisty, has a lot of put downs, has been trained by the elder females of her village in how to emasculate men lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen of Annoy Posted September 24, 2021 #20 Share Posted September 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said: You remind me of a stereotypical Eastern European woman. One that is quite feisty, has a lot of put downs, has been trained by the elder females of her village in how to emasculate men lol So what would you conclude about yourself, regarding your need to keep coming back for more? Or you live in hope one day you'll grow a brain that can come close to a stereotypical EE woman's? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Phantom_Stranger Posted September 24, 2021 #21 Share Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) The arguement I remember is that the fluoride used in drinking water was an industrial waste product. It's as if putting it in the drinking water was the most efficient way to get rid of it. This article says something about fluoride needing to be combined with calcium to be effective. The second one is defending fluoride use. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3690253/ https://americanfluoridationsociety.org/debunking-anti-claims/myths/fluoride-is-fluoride/ Edited September 24, 2021 by Green Lion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acute Posted September 24, 2021 #22 Share Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Helen of Annoy said: they'll come for my bacon next. Evil fascist b*****ds! Edited September 24, 2021 by acute 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acute Posted September 24, 2021 #23 Share Posted September 24, 2021 4 hours ago, Cookie Monster said: Stop being silly and check your water. My GP checks my water regularly, and tells me to stop drinking, buying pizzas, and lying on the sofa eating Chips & Curry Sauce. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Posted September 28, 2021 #24 Share Posted September 28, 2021 On 9/24/2021 at 5:09 PM, Cookie Monster said: I dont understand why this is being done. Well actually I do, its communism. Lets have a national campaign encouraging those who are at risk of cavities developing to maybe once per mouth swallow their toothpaste. Dont force that toxic garbage onto the rest of us. I only drink bottled water, but if this happens I will have to start pouring that into the kettle. On 9/24/2021 at 7:50 PM, Helen of Annoy said: Yes, Russians p***ing in Evian is what makes it so addictive, since it makes it 17% alcohol. Seriously now, Russia is not communist. Never was, by the way, but the important thing is that Russia is definitely not communist today. Neither is fluoridated water, use of which might be debated, as Kittens nicely explained, but it's not a sign of communism. It's so bizarre to see communists in fluoridated water (especially since it's an American thing) it inspired me for some morbid humour. Helen, that made me laugh! On a serious note, not many people know this, but that perfume bottle left in Salisbury? It didn't contain Novichok- in fact Novichok was never used- it was Fluoride! The Russians are using Flouride as a nerve agent. The UK government covered it up so as not to cause a toothpaste panic. You heard it first on UM, folks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV-426 Posted September 28, 2021 #25 Share Posted September 28, 2021 On a further note, if I am going to be drinking water laced with urine, it might be better to source it from Glastonbury! Glastonbury Festival: Traces of drugs found in river at site "Scientists have warned there are "dangerous" levels of MDMA and cocaine in the Whitelake River in Somerset. They suspect public urination has caused the increase and urged festival goers to use the toilets provided." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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