The_Phantom_Stranger Posted October 3, 2021 #26 Share Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, zep73 said: That is literally the Flavians speaking, to avoid a rebellion. Crowd control 101. Incredible people believe that BS. It is sound advice. It is a warning to avoid people calling themselves Christ, and people saying Christ is someone else. It will rebuke a lot of crazies and save you the trouble of going through something like this From Matthew chapter 24 4And Jesus answered and said to them: “Take heed that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. 23“Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There!’ do not believe it. 24For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25See, I have told you beforehand. 26“Therefore if they say to you, ‘Look, He is in the desert!’ do not go out; or ‘Look, He is in the inner rooms!’ do not believe it. 27For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 28For wherever the carcass is, there the eagles will be gathered together. Edited October 3, 2021 by Green Lion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted October 3, 2021 #27 Share Posted October 3, 2021 5 hours ago, acute said: Ridiculous! Jesus was white and English. Those European Renaissance artist painted him in European image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted October 3, 2021 #28 Share Posted October 3, 2021 6 hours ago, The Silver Shroud said: Apologies if this has been posted before. AI image using best information.Portrait of Jesus using AI incorporating what we know of his ethnicity & culture for time and region : pics (reddit.com) LOL looks a lot like a young me, and even more like my brother. This image is likely to be a lot more accurate than the one often used to portray him This one shows a man of attractive features engaging eyes, and an enigmatic smile He must have been attractive as well as a good speaker to attract so many followers, including women This bloke would appeal to both male and female values Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted October 3, 2021 #29 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Notice any resemblance? Here he is playing a guitar and what he might have looked like if he had lived to be an old man. For those of you too young to recognise him . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted October 3, 2021 #30 Share Posted October 3, 2021 7 hours ago, Green Lion said: That's a pretty ugly picture. It is actually completely inaccurate because it is against Mosaic law for a Jewish man to cut his hair or shave his beard. A Nazarene would also not cut his hair unless he encountered a man's dead body. There is some discussion on this subject, apparently he was possible bald!!!!! 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted October 3, 2021 #31 Share Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Green Lion said: They look completely different than each other. If it was ethnically accurate they would show it with long hair and a beard. These are obviously hacks. WHY Edited October 3, 2021 by Manwon Lender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Phantom_Stranger Posted October 3, 2021 #32 Share Posted October 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, Manwon Lender said: WHY I said why once or twice. It was Mosaic law that Jewish men do not cut their hair or beards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Phantom_Stranger Posted October 3, 2021 #33 Share Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) There were many gentiles living in Israel at the time of Jesus. Many different nations were there and Jesus ministered to them. Jesus' genealogy as given in the Gospels was from a royal Jewish line. I'm pretty sure the rendition is not of a Jewish man. I think he grabbed a general picture of Arabia and threw it into the AI. Just because the area Jesus was living in might have had other people than Jews living there, he is not discounted from being Jewish. Edited October 3, 2021 by Green Lion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted October 3, 2021 #34 Share Posted October 3, 2021 17 minutes ago, Green Lion said: I said why once or twice. It was Mosaic law that Jewish men do not cut their hair or beards. Today many Scholars believe below is the best representation of Jesus: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted October 3, 2021 #35 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Mr. Wednesday: "You've got your White, Jesuit-style Jesus, your Black African Jesus, your Mexican Jesus, and your swarthy Greek Jesus." Shadow: "That's a lot of Jesus." Mr. Wednesday: "Well there's a lot of need for Jesus, so there is a lot of Jesus. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlookerofmayhem Posted October 3, 2021 #36 Share Posted October 3, 2021 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted October 3, 2021 #37 Share Posted October 3, 2021 He's also No. 33 at the etihad... Quote ~ 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted October 3, 2021 #38 Share Posted October 3, 2021 10 hours ago, acute said: Ridiculous! Jesus was white and English. He i...was! 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted October 3, 2021 #39 Share Posted October 3, 2021 12 hours ago, Still Waters said: It was created about a year ago by Dutch photographer Bas Uterwijk. https://faithfullymagazine.com/dutch-photographer-jesus/ And it's amazing: https://www.basuterwijk.com/portfolio/C0000hFAng_Rwrws/G0000WVKM6MbiIAc Have a guess who this woman is: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wepwawet Posted October 3, 2021 #40 Share Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) This thread gives some more context The image from the BBC page linked in that post The reason I've put this in this thread is because of the context of the burials, not discussed in the BBC article, is that they come from Jewish burials in Egypt dating to the first millenium BC. Their DNA analysis is interesting as it shows that while all are generic "West Eurasians" in their deeper origins, their more recent origins put the one on the left, JK2911, as being over 40% Arabian, 40% West Middle East and 10% Southern European. The man in the middle, JK2134, is about 50% Southern European with the remainder being a mix of Arabian, West Middle East and West Central Asia, The man on the right, JK2888, is about 58% West Middle East and 42% Southern European, and, IMO, looks Italian. But this is really to show that within one seemingly monobloc religious group, while there is an underlying sameness, the same origins as just about everybody in Western Eurasia including Europe, there is quite some disparity when their more immediate ancestors are factored in. It shows I think that even in the first millenium BC, Jewishness was determined by your religion, well of course, and not your ethnicity. So trying to come up with a likeness of Jesus, even based on science, is not so easy, impossible in fact. I think some other context is also needed. Various DNA studies of Ancient Egyptians taken from various parts of the country are showing that the bulk of the population has West Eurasian origins at the deeper level, and from the region of 14,000 or so years ago, and this is very variable, their origins often show them as from an area stretching from Western Europe to the Caucasus and into the Northern Levant. The Thutmosids are predominantly European in their immediate origins, ie, their ancestors many thousands of years earlier migrated into the Levant and then the Nile Valley from Europe and the Black Sea and Anatolian/Causcuses area. I know this is controversial, but it's what the DNA says. Edited October 3, 2021 by Wepwawet 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlyeh Posted October 3, 2021 #41 Share Posted October 3, 2021 20 hours ago, Green Lion said: That's a pretty ugly picture. It is actually completely inaccurate because it is against Mosaic law for a Jewish man to cut his hair or shave his beard. A Nazarene would also not cut his hair unless he encountered a man's dead body. Nazirite not Nazarene, Jesus wasn't a Nazirite. Paul believes a man should not have long hair. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlyeh Posted October 3, 2021 #42 Share Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, Green Lion said: I said why once or twice. It was Mosaic law that Jewish men do not cut their hair or beards. Levitical priests where not Jewish? Ezekiel 44:20 – “And their heads they shall not shave, nor shall they let their hair grow long, they shall keep their hair well-trimmed.” Edited October 3, 2021 by Rlyeh 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlyeh Posted October 3, 2021 #43 Share Posted October 3, 2021 15 hours ago, Green Lion said: Yeah, those pictures are two vastly different people now that I see them next to each other. A wolf in sheep's clothing if you ask me. Luke 21:8 8And He said: “Take heed that you not be deceived. For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am He,’ and, ‘The time has drawn near.’ [d]Therefore do not [e]go after them. There's only room for one c̶h̶a̶r̶l̶a̶t̶a̶n christ. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted October 3, 2021 #44 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Splitting hairs... Quote http://www.rwaag.org › hair Hairstyles and Cosmetics in Ancient Greece During the classical period women wore their hair long except when they were in mourning during which they cut their hair short. Slaves wore short hair. ... https://etc.worldhistory.org › ancient... Ancient Hairstyles of the Greco-Roman World 9 Dec 2015 — Masks like this may also have been worn by soldiers in contests that re-enacted scenes of Greek myth and history. JW: We say that “ ... ~ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted October 3, 2021 #45 Share Posted October 3, 2021 8 hours ago, Abramelin said: And it's amazing: https://www.basuterwijk.com/portfolio/C0000hFAng_Rwrws/G0000WVKM6MbiIAc Have a guess who this woman is: Ok. It's the face of the Statue of Liberty. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted October 3, 2021 #46 Share Posted October 3, 2021 23 hours ago, fred_mc said: There was a similar scientific attempt some years ago. This is the picture they came up with then. Really? Looks like an Albanian used-car dealer. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted October 4, 2021 #47 Share Posted October 4, 2021 All it is a reference and nothing more. Now if they were working with his DNA or had found the skull then that would be the reference to what he looked like so until they do he can look like any imagination one has. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted October 4, 2021 #48 Share Posted October 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, jmccr8 said: All it is a reference and nothing more. Now if they were working with his DNA or had found the skull then that would be the reference to what he looked like so until they do he can look like any imagination one has. After his three day nap he was abducted by aliens. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted October 4, 2021 #49 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Leaving all those amphora of water in the tomb turned out to be not so great an idea... ~ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted October 4, 2021 #50 Share Posted October 4, 2021 16 hours ago, Abramelin said: And it's amazing: https://www.basuterwijk.com/portfolio/C0000hFAng_Rwrws/G0000WVKM6MbiIAc Have a guess who this woman is: Some Egyptian peasant woman (fallah) I believe our word for a bloke (feller) comes from this, possibly picked up from troops stationed in Egypt in WW1, although some say it is a form of fellow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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