Amish Covid: 'No hospitalization, isolation or vaccines = herd immunity'

[el midgetron]

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After a short shutdown last year, the Amish chose a unique path that led to Covid-19 tearing through at warp speed. It began with an important religious holiday in May.

Lapp: When they take communion, they dump their wine into a cup and they take turns to drink out of that cup. So, you go the whole way down the line, and everybody drinks out of that cup, if one person has coronavirus, the rest of church is going to get coronavirus. The first time they went back to church, everybody got coronavirus.

Lapp says they weren’t denying coronavirus, they were facing it head on.

Lapp: It’s a worse thing to quit working than dying. Working is more important than dying. But to shut down and say that we can't go to church, we can't get together with family, we can't see our old people in the hospital, we got to quit working? It's going completely against everything that we believe. You're changing our culture completely to try to act like they wanted us to act the last year, and we're not going to do it……..………

…..One thing’s clear: there's no evidence of any more deaths among the Amish than in places that shut down tight— some claim there were fewer here. That’s without masking, staying at home, or another important measure.

https://sharylattkisson.com/2021/10/amish-covid-no-hospitalization-isolation-or-vaccines-herd-immunity/

 

 

Edited October 24, 2021 by el midgetron

[quiXilver]

I would expect infection and death numbers among them to reflect the overall numbers of population of unvaccinated persons.

Nothing unusual.  I completely understand their position, even if I may not agree with it.  (empathetic)

[Zontar]

There shouldn't be any controversy.  If you don't want to get vaccinated, or wear a mask, that's fine.  Just stay the hell away from everyone else with your plague-rat germs.  As well, don't expect any sympathy when you do get covid and expect special treatment at the hospital. We as a society are pretty lucky to live in these modern times, as in the past, if you get infected with some kind of deadly plague, you might end up killed and burnt in a bonfire to protect everyone else.

[Ell]

31 minutes ago, Zontar said:

if you get infected with some kind of deadly plague

You mean one of them plagues that kills about fifty per cent of a population? Covid19 doesn't. It merely removes a few geriatric 80+ fat people from the populations that likely would have died anyway within - I guess - half a year.

 

No surplus mortality in Germany: https://idw-online.de/de/news777907

Edited October 24, 2021 by Ell
Added mortality line.

[lightly]

1 hour ago, Ell said:

You mean one of them plagues that kills about fifty per cent of a population? Covid19 doesn't. It merely removes a few geriatric 80+ fat people from the populations that likely would have died anyway within - I guess - half a year.

 

No surplus mortality in Germany: https://idw-online.de/de/news777907

According to this article...the average age of covid death in California is 73...and getting younger.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-09-24/average-age-of-covid-19-victims-getting-younger

[Ell]

41 minutes ago, lightly said:

According to this article...the average age of covid death in California is 73...and getting younger.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-09-24/average-age-of-covid-19-victims-getting-younger

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more recently, two have died for every 100,000 people in this group [49 years old and younger] on a weekly basis.

That is about 100 per year per 100,000.

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L.A. County has an estimated 4.36 million residents between the ages of 18 and 49

Apparently people younger than 18 are not a factor.

So total death for this age group is approximately 4400 per year per 4.4 million residents. That is negligible.

 

 

[+and-then]

3 hours ago, Zontar said:

There shouldn't be any controversy.  If you don't want to get vaccinated, or wear a mask, that's fine.  Just stay the hell away from everyone else with your plague-rat germs.  As well, don't expect any sympathy when you do get covid and expect special treatment at the hospital. We as a society are pretty lucky to live in these modern times, as in the past, if you get infected with some kind of deadly plague, you might end up killed and burnt in a bonfire to protect everyone else.

So, I assume you'd feel the same about the cases where fully vaccinated people who contract covid are then sick enough to be hospitalized or even die?  The idea that only unvaxxed patients are able to transmit this virus has been proven wrong consistently.  Also, NO GOVERNMENT has the right to take away a person's freedom of association or movement because they refuse to take a vaccine they do not trust.  Those who give in to that demand have lost bodily autonomy forever.  It's foolish to imagine the government won't expand the power to remove such freedoms for OTHER situations.  Watch it happen.  It won't be long now before we see examples.

[ExpandMyMind]

9 hours ago, Ell said:

You mean one of them plagues that kills about fifty per cent of a population? Covid19 doesn't. It merely removes a few geriatric 80+ fat people from the populations that likely would have died anyway within - I guess - half a year.

 

In the US in September, Covid was the leading cause of death in the US among 35-54 year olds. That's THE leading cause of death.

In the UK, it was the 3rd leading cause of death, above cancer.

So even if your dismissal because it 'merely removed a few geriatric 80+ fat people' wasn't absolutely disgusting, it's still completely incorrect.

[Ell]

1 hour ago, ExpandMyMind said:

In the US in September, Covid was the leading cause of death in the US among 35-54 year olds. That's THE leading cause of death.

In the UK, it was the 3rd leading cause of death, above cancer.

So even if your dismissal because it 'merely removed a few geriatric 80+ fat people' wasn't absolutely disgusting, it's still completely incorrect.

Them is rather vague data.

How many of them were fat? How many of them died because they were treated (badly) in an intensive care unit?

How many had been chronically ill before they got diagnosed with covid10?

Do you happen to be one of them empathetic supermen?

 

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-tracker

[Myles]

Where I live, the Amish have been hit hard by covid.  I consider most of them morons.  Will own anything as long as they don't bring it onto their property.  Cell phones, power tools, freezers or vehicles.  

[ExpandMyMind]

6 hours ago, Ell said:

Them is rather vague data.

How many of them were fat? How many of them died because they were treated (badly) in an intensive care unit?

How many had been chronically ill before they got diagnosed with covid10?

Do you happen to be one of them empathetic supermen?

 

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-tracker

Lol.

It's so weird seeing people try to defend a position by essentially saying, 'Oh well, they deserve to die because...'.

[XenoFish]

5 minutes ago, ExpandMyMind said:

Oh well, they deserve to die because...'.

It's even more disturbing when people gloat about.

(My comment isn't directed at you)

[aztek]

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..One thing’s clear: there's no evidence of any more deaths among the Amish than in places that shut down tight— some claim there were fewer here. That’s without masking, staying at home, or another important measure.

Of course there isn't. and there wont be any. Amish population is much healthier than average American, they have active lifestyle, and do not eat poison that we eat, aka processed foods. they are pretty much the only segment of population that can survive covid better than anyone else.  But what they do will have much different result in America in general.