Ell Posted October 27, 2021 #26 Share Posted October 27, 2021 2 hours ago, OverSword said: Do you think that's not the ultimate goal? It is. It will never stop unless a stop is put to it. Time to stop this buffoonery. The sociopaths that rule us permit - and stimulate; give them free reins - these narcissists to perpetrate their evil acts unto history and civilization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted October 27, 2021 #27 Share Posted October 27, 2021 (edited) On a side note, but connected to this subject, last night I watched the BBC program 'Who Do You Think You Are' where they take minor celebrities and trace back their ancestry. Last nights subject was Alex Scott, the black female ex footballer (soccer) & T.V. presenter. Shock horror, It turns out that her great great great grandfather (who was also black) owned actual slaves in Jamaica (he even got one pregnant). Perhaps the people on here that are advocating taking down statues of historical people 'linked to colonialism' would like to write to the BBC and demand they cancel her contract forthwith & make her take the walk of shame & escorted from the building, in line with the new way of thinking. Edited October 27, 2021 by itsnotoutthere 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted October 27, 2021 #28 Share Posted October 27, 2021 23 minutes ago, itsnotoutthere said: On a side note, but connected to this subject, last night I watched the BBC program 'Who Do You Think You Are' where they take minor celebrities and trace back their ancestry. Last nights subject was Alex Scott, the black female ex footballer (soccer) & T.V. presenter. Shock horror, It turns out that her great great great grandfather (who was also black) owned actual slaves in Jamaica (he even got one pregnant). Perhaps the people on here that are advocating taking down statues of historical people 'linked to colonialism' would like to write to the BBC and demand they cancel her contract forthwith & make her take the walk of shame & escorted from the building, in line with the new way of thinking. Being descended from slave owners is hardly the same as owning them yourself. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted October 27, 2021 #29 Share Posted October 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, Setton said: Being descended from slave owners is hardly the same as owning them yourself. But having 'links to colonialism' is far worse.... right. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted October 27, 2021 #30 Share Posted October 27, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Setton said: Being descended from slave owners is hardly the same as owning them yourself. Of course I'm being facetious, but there are people here and out there that would happily see people lose their jobs for far less. I seem to remember some science guy being hounded out of his job because of a risqué hawian shirt he was wearing. If we keep on down this road it won't be long before we're burning books, rigging elections and banning people from the Internet for having right wing opinions....... Oh... hang on... Edited October 27, 2021 by itsnotoutthere 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essan Posted October 27, 2021 #31 Share Posted October 27, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Setton said: Being descended from slave owners is hardly the same as owning them yourself. The point is: if my ancestors owned slaves, some of today's ignorant bigots would deem me as bad as my ancesters and treat me accordingly. Especially if I was wealthy ..... As it happens, some of my ancestors were slaves. And victims of genocide. But I am yet to see any apologiy and compensation coming from Rome Nor, indeed from Norway or Ireland or Morroco, whose citizens also enslaved Britions. Edited October 27, 2021 by Essan 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted October 27, 2021 #32 Share Posted October 27, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Setton said: Being descended from slave owners is hardly the same as owning them yourself. That's very open minded of you. You're practically a right wing nutter!! Edited October 27, 2021 by OverSword 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted October 27, 2021 #33 Share Posted October 27, 2021 The Barmy Army, are they Lefties or Right Whingers? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted October 27, 2021 #34 Share Posted October 27, 2021 2 hours ago, Essan said: The point is: if my ancestors owned slaves, some of today's ignorant bigots would deem me as bad as my ancesters and treat me accordingly. Especially if I was wealthy ..... you do not even have to be a descendant, or wealthy in usa, only be the same color. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted October 27, 2021 #35 Share Posted October 27, 2021 24 minutes ago, aztek said: you do not even have to be a descendant, or wealthy in usa, only be the same color. Of course not because your white skin gives you an automatic leg up. In fact you don't have to make any effort at all. Everything is just handed to you. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted October 28, 2021 #36 Share Posted October 28, 2021 10 hours ago, Golden Duck said: The Barmy Army, are they Lefties or Right Whingers? If you have to ask......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenMindedSceptic Posted October 28, 2021 #37 Share Posted October 28, 2021 No, just no. Leave the bust Put up another sign that has a list of the names of the people who wanted to remove the bust alongside their version of why they asked to do that and also an explanation of revisionist history. Seems equitable and fair. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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