COVID-19: Austria to impose lockdown on all unvaccinated people from midnight

[OpenMindedSceptic]

1 hour ago, psyche101 said:

 

Is your newsfeed the national Enquirer or Vanity Fair? 

Weren't you the one who reckoned the BBC and the Gaurdian were good unbiased sources?.lmao.

[psyche101]

15 minutes ago, OpenMindedSceptic said:

Weren't you the one who reckoned the BBC and the Gaurdian were good unbiased sources?.lmao.

So you can't answer the question? It's rude to answer a question with a question you know. 

It's the national Enquirer isn't it. Embarrassed that I picked it in one aren't you. 

[psyche101]

24 minutes ago, OpenMindedSceptic said:

And there it is. You can't disprove it either. 

Maybe he can't but I have to stand by him on this one 

It's honestly hard to imagine as popular.

Edited November 30, 2021 by psyche101

[psyche101]

31 minutes ago, OpenMindedSceptic said:

Hey Nuclear, I'm still waiting for your deep pool of articles. Been a couple of days now.

Deep pool? 

You tend to overdo things. Is that to hide the fact that there's no substance to your long winded posts and nonsense file dumps? 

To my experience NW is much more honest than that. If he had information to share, he shares it. He doesn't create some long winded cryptic game of follow the breadcrumbs to nowhere. He's got a hell of a lot more credibility here than you do and is straightforward with information. You could learn a great deal about quality posting from him. I'd recommend you consider him something of a role model for you to look up to. 

Edited November 30, 2021 by psyche101

[+Nuclear Wessel]

1 hour ago, OpenMindedSceptic said:

Hey Nuclear, I'm still waiting for your deep pool of articles. Been a couple of days now.

Deep pool of articles FOR WHAT? AGAIN, do you expect me to provide a pile of articles to contend a point that wasn't even made in an article you posted? You haven't even explained how the maths "adds up" to making the actual conclusion fall apart. 

[+Nuclear Wessel]

1 hour ago, OpenMindedSceptic said:

And there it is. You can't disprove it either. 

Sure, he can't... as that would require a significant degree of testing. At best, given the information we have, it's a correlational event and not a causal one.

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Meanwhile I'm.not going to ask the one who has increased markers for cardiac issues if I can post their medical record. Or get her to explain how she started shaking within a minute or so of the jab.

You'd just sit there and say didn't happen. 

 

I doubt Duck would say it didn't happen--adverse reactions can and do happen with the vaccine. The problem is establishing the causal relationship between the jab and her increased markers for cardiac issues. To reiterate: at best, given the information we have, it's a correlational issue and not a causal one. The onus is not on him to disprove a causal relationship between the two when we don't have enough information to establish a causal one.

The tremors/shaking could have a multitude of causes--different medications, exhaustion, stress, dehydration, anxiety, etc. Without knowing anything about their medical history, the cardiac markers could also have many different potential causes.

Edited November 30, 2021 by Nuclear Wessel

[OpenMindedSceptic]

1 hour ago, Nuclear Wessel said:

Deep pool of articles FOR WHAT? AGAIN, do you expect me to provide a pile of articles to contend a point that wasn't even made in an article you posted? You haven't even explained how the maths "adds up" to making the actual conclusion fall apart. 

Oh, you don't have a pile of articles? Right. No wonder you're ill-informed.

[OpenMindedSceptic]

1 hour ago, Nuclear Wessel said:

Sure, he can't... as that would require a significant degree of testing. At best, given the information we have, it's a correlational event and not a causal one.

I doubt Duck would say it didn't happen--adverse reactions can and do happen with the vaccine. The problem is establishing the causal relationship between the jab and her increased markers for cardiac issues. To reiterate: at best, given the information we have, it's a correlational issue and not a causal one. The onus is not on him to disprove a causal relationship between the two when we don't have enough information to establish a causal one.

The tremors/shaking could have a multitude of causes--different medications, exhaustion, stress, dehydration, anxiety, etc. Without knowing anything about their medical history, the cardiac markers could also have many different potential causes.

If only cardiologists weren't reporting similar occurrences.

So you live in a world where there is no chance any reaction could be related to the jab.

You're so afr down the rabbit hole of government propaganda that you're either in on the scam with them or you're just easily led.

Sad.

[Golden Duck]

3 hours ago, OpenMindedSceptic said:

And there it is. You can't disprove it either. 

Meanwhile I'm.not going to ask the one who has increased markers for cardiac issues if I can post their medical record. Or get her to explain how she started shaking within a minute or so of the jab.

You'd just sit there and say didn't happen. 

Nor will I post details about the person whose cardiac specialist advised to take Pfizer.

Edited November 30, 2021 by Golden Duck

[+Nuclear Wessel]

4 hours ago, OpenMindedSceptic said:

No wonder you're ill-informed.

About what? 

[+Nuclear Wessel]

5 hours ago, OpenMindedSceptic said:

So you live in a world where there is no chance any reaction could be related to the jab.

You must have missed the part of my post that you quoted, which says:

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adverse reactions can and do happen with the vaccine. 

 

[OpenMindedSceptic]

Austria's approach:

Unjabbed placed in lockdown.

Then summonsed to a jab appointment.

If you don't turn up then another summons to be jabbed in within 4 weeks.

Then, failure to attend fined $4,000 or 4 weeks in prison.

Then, 2nd fine so up to $8,000.

Then, nobody will be forcibly brought to be jabbed, just forcibly placed behind bars.

So essentially - mandatory jabs or, fines + prison.

And everyone laughed a the idea of camps.

This is about control and politics, not science.

 

[rashore]

Thread cleaned. Folks, enough with the personal attacks and scrutiny, derogatory commentary, and general hostile bickering going on in this thread. Discuss the topic in a civil and constructive manner, or step away from the topic. 

[OpenMindedSceptic]

Now the FDA have been ordered by the courts to release information at a rate of 500 documents per month relating to Pfizer jab.

 

And the early reports from the first 30-40 pages are:

1227 deaths by Feb 2021

23 cases of instantaneous abortions out of 270 pregnancies.

Problems being passed on via lactation.

Tens of thousands of adverse events reported.

More than 2,000 reports of cardiac disorders

Only "above mild" cases being reported.

More to follow as the documents are released....

Check it out on phmpt.org

 

Meantime, CDC investigating nearly 800 cases of rare heart problems following jabs.

(NY Times)

 

[psyche101]

10 hours ago, OpenMindedSceptic said:

Now the FDA have been ordered by the courts to release information at a rate of 500 documents per month relating to Pfizer jab.

 

And the early reports from the first 30-40 pages are:

1227 deaths by Feb 2021

23 cases of instantaneous abortions out of 270 pregnancies.

Problems being passed on via lactation.

Tens of thousands of adverse events reported.

More than 2,000 reports of cardiac disorders

Only "above mild" cases being reported.

More to follow as the documents are released....

Check it out on phmpt.org

 

Meantime, CDC investigating nearly 800 cases of rare heart problems following jabs.

(NY Times)

 

Coronavirus Death Toll

5,248,748 deaths

5,248,748 people have died so far from the coronavirus COVID-19 outbreak as of December 02, 2021, 23:32 GMT.

Coronavirus Cases:

264,376,666

Almost 25% of COVID-19 Patients Develop Long-Lasting Symptoms, 

Edited December 2, 2021 by psyche101

[Golden Duck]

11 hours ago, OpenMindedSceptic said:

Now the FDA have been ordered by the courts to release information at a rate of 500 documents per month relating to Pfizer jab.

The Court won't rule on the rate until 14 December.  It was the FDA that was asking for the rate of 500 pages per month.

Edited December 3, 2021 by Golden Duck

[The_Phantom_Stranger]

The absurdity is to turn on your own people instead of taking action against the source of the plague which came out of Wuhan China.

[Golden Duck]

32 minutes ago, The_Phantom_Stranger said:

The absurdity is to turn on your own people instead of taking action against the source of the plague which came out of Wuhan China.

Off you go then.

[toast]

44 minutes ago, The_Phantom_Stranger said:

The absurdity is to turn on your own people instead of taking action against the source of the plague which came out of Wuhan China.

The only absurdity here is your understanding of disease control. Q: to cure diarrhea, do you blame Manitu ? Bigfoot? Marshmallow-man?

[qxcontinuum]

Exactly as I posted in this thread not so long ago, suspiciously covid cases have jumped right before Christmas as they always have  And new restrictions are coming in place here in Ontario. I swear at least a few dozens of other people I talk to have observed this trend as well. I know of a few that are scared of covid and they get tested frequently even for runny nose Some of them have came out positive with absolute no other symptoms