Festina Posted December 1, 2021 #26 Share Posted December 1, 2021 — 23 — abracadabra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrLzs Posted December 1, 2021 #27 Share Posted December 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Festina said: — 23 — abracadabra May I suggest YOU read the first of the lines which you include on each of your erudite and informative posts. That writer does the most .... Thanks so much for coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted December 1, 2021 #28 Share Posted December 1, 2021 On 11/24/2021 at 6:44 PM, ZOXS said: He seems to make a lot of good points but I know extremely little about video compositing which is his main focus in this video. Is there other explanations for some of the points he makes? I’m especially interested in how the plane seemed to slice through the tower like butter in the videos he shows. Is that because of the speed it was going? Planes aren’t the strongest being made of light materials so that they conserve fuel and the tower is full of steel. It slicing through so easily seems illogical. Another thing that was mentioned is how in the video, the nose of the plane seems to poke through the other side of the tower. That seems a bit odd but I really don’t know enough to know for certain. yes, it looked exactly like that looking from few blocks away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Festina Posted December 1, 2021 #29 Share Posted December 1, 2021 (edited) 16 hours ago, ChrLzs said: May I suggest YOU read the first of the lines which you include on each of your erudite and informative posts. That writer does the most .... Thanks so much for coming. Seeds... 23 is an interesting number regarding the 9/11 Event. Are you aware of this? Would you like More? Edited December 1, 2021 by Festina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted December 1, 2021 #30 Share Posted December 1, 2021 46 minutes ago, Festina said: Would you like More? oh yes please- wonderful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Festina Posted December 2, 2021 #31 Share Posted December 2, 2021 36 minutes ago, Dejarma said: oh yes please- wonderful Promise to be Friendly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obviousman Posted December 2, 2021 #32 Share Posted December 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Festina said: Would you like More? No. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted December 2, 2021 #33 Share Posted December 2, 2021 45 minutes ago, Festina said: Promise to be Friendly? oh of course-- though how i'll react if you say something i feel is stupid i don't know... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Festina Posted December 2, 2021 #34 Share Posted December 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, Dejarma said: oh of course-- though how i'll react if you say something i feel is stupid i don't know... I will be stating observations and facts. Take it up with the Rock and Roll prophets if you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Festina Posted December 2, 2021 #35 Share Posted December 2, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Festina Posted December 2, 2021 #36 Share Posted December 2, 2021 So who do you think willed the 9/11 Event and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Festina Posted December 2, 2021 #37 Share Posted December 2, 2021 (edited) NUMBERS There is a book in the Old Testament called Numbers. I’m not remotely contemporary “religious” and I will not be going on about the Bible but...it’s an interesting parallel nonetheless. 23 ( x 2 = 46) 9 11 The Two towers— which stood like an eleven (11) FACT Edited December 2, 2021 by Festina 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted December 2, 2021 #38 Share Posted December 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, Festina said: So who do you think willed the 9/11 Event and why? everyone knows who Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted December 2, 2021 #39 Share Posted December 2, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Festina said: it’s an interesting parallel it's not to me & probably not to most people i would say- now what? just out of interest Edited December 2, 2021 by Dejarma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Festina Posted December 2, 2021 #40 Share Posted December 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Dejarma said: it's not to me & probable not to most people- now what? just out of interest I have not yet presented my thesis, how can you say it’s not interesting? Patience please and reserve your opinions as such for later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted December 2, 2021 #41 Share Posted December 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Festina said: how can you say it’s not interesting? it's easy, like this, look=== it’s not interesting. i can say it in klingon if ya like=== duc dash katugdug ooops sorry that's wrong- it should be=== duc dash katugdeeag duc dash katugdug actually means== it's not toenails... silly me 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Festina Posted December 2, 2021 #42 Share Posted December 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, Dejarma said: it's easy, like this, look=== it’s not interesting. i can say it in klingon if ya like=== duc dash katugdug ooops sorry that's wrong- it should be=== duc dash katugdeeag duc dash katugdug actually means== it's not toenails... silly me ?? !! ?? . . . It may not interesting to you perhaps, but it will be to others, as it has been — for decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted December 2, 2021 #43 Share Posted December 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, Festina said: ?? !! ?? . . . It may not interesting to you perhaps, but it will be to others, as it has been — for decades. yep, fair enough- i'll leave you to it then. have fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrLzs Posted December 5, 2021 #44 Share Posted December 5, 2021 On 12/2/2021 at 11:31 AM, Festina said: I have not yet presented my thesis, how can you say it’s not interesting? A wild but educated guess? History speaks to us all......... On 12/2/2021 at 11:31 AM, Festina said: Patience please and reserve your opinions as such for later. ???? Then why did you not just present your thesis, and instead tease us and invite comments? BTW, if it is not ontopic, you should really start a new thread. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Witness Posted December 18, 2021 #45 Share Posted December 18, 2021 At the 0:25 minute mark …. At the 4:00 minute mark … Witnesses inside the towers saw the plane, both before and after the impact. So are these human eyes lying, also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted December 18, 2021 #46 Share Posted December 18, 2021 14 hours ago, Raptor Witness said: Witnesses inside the towers saw the plane, both before and after the impact. So are these human eyes lying, also? The answer is yes. Another example of how we observe and perceive our environments can be deceiving. Our minds try to take in all kinds of sensory information and make sense of them. When you have a significantly traumatic event such as 9/11 our minds can be overloaded with stimuli that cause us to misremember things. Sometimes even adding or subtracting details in order for our brains to collate the sensory input. Happens all the time. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Witness Posted December 18, 2021 #47 Share Posted December 18, 2021 4 hours ago, Trelane said: The answer is yes. Another example of how we observe and perceive our environments can be deceiving. Our minds try to take in all kinds of sensory information and make sense of them. When you have a significantly traumatic event such as 9/11 our minds can be overloaded with stimuli that cause us to misremember things. Sometimes even adding or subtracting details in order for our brains to collate the sensory input. Happens all the time. Actually, I trust the eyes of the folks who saw the planes flying over the city of New York, and then into the sky scrapers. There were too many eye witnesses. Thousands….. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted December 19, 2021 #48 Share Posted December 19, 2021 5 hours ago, Raptor Witness said: Actually, I trust the eyes of the folks who saw the planes flying over the city of New York, and then into the sky scrapers. There were too many eye witnesses. Thousands….. I'm not denying that the event occurred. I'm only commenting on the embellishment that occurs with a significant traumatic event and how memory is affected. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted December 23, 2021 #49 Share Posted December 23, 2021 On 12/18/2021 at 11:25 PM, Trelane said: I'm not denying that the event occurred. I'm only commenting on the embellishment that occurs with a significant traumatic event and how memory is affected. don't you think testimonies of those who saw it personally are much more credible, despite of alleged memory effects, than those who have not been there at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted December 23, 2021 #50 Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, aztek said: don't you think testimonies of those who saw it personally are much more credible, despite of alleged memory effects, than those who have not been there at all? No, I don't. Not without some further investigation and follow up interviews. Memory affects due to experiencing/observing traumatic events aren't alleged. They happen, all the time. Edited December 23, 2021 by Trelane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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