Only 18 per cent of Britons think Brexit is going well, poll finds

[Silver]

The latest numbers are likely to make grim reading for a government that continues to suggest Brexit is in the best interest of the country.

The electorate now thinks Brexit is the largest single issue facing the UK, according to an Ipsos Mori survey carried out last month.

Some 28 per cent of people viewed it as the most pressing concern, slightly more than those who thought the pandemic should be the government’s main focus.

In September, it was the other way around, with 37 per cent of voters deciding Covid-19 was the nation’s most urgent problem and 20 per cent thinking it was Brexit.

The increased concern over Brexit came around the same time that Richard Hughes, the chairman of the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) warned that the decision to leave the bloc would “reduce our long run GDP by around 4 per cent”.

Only 18 per cent of Britons think Brexit is going well, poll finds | The Independent

Edited November 27, 2021 by The Silver Shroud

[Dejarma]

now please do me the honour of not taking this the wrong way- i'm not a racist, far from it, i'm just stating facts:

hospital patients are still 95% foreigners.. supermarkets the same (my rough estimate) no change there.. good luck to them

the only thing i might class as a brexit pain is it takes a little longer for my guitar parts i ordered online to be delivered.

i expected the cost of stuff to Ridiculously shoot up in price- that hasn't really happened, the normal expected increases as we all experience on a yearly basis.

SO= nothing much has changed for me personally-- & everyone i know to be honest 

[toast]

2 hours ago, Dejarma said:

now please do me the honour of not taking this the wrong way- i'm not a racist, far from it, i'm just stating facts:

hospital patients are still 95% foreigners..

Source?

[odas]

14 hours ago, toast said:

Source?

Still waiting?

[toast]

14 minutes ago, odas said:

Still waiting?

(The Girl from Ipanema/instrumental)

[Silver]

3 hours ago, toast said:

(The Girl from Ipanema/instrumental)

 

[Silver]

22 hours ago, Dejarma said:

now please do me the honour of not taking this the wrong way- i'm not a racist, far from it, i'm just stating facts:

hospital patients are still 95% foreigners.. supermarkets the same (my rough estimate) no change there.. good luck to them

I suspect the 75% figure is plucked out of thin air. And all sentences that begin with "I'm not racist, but..." have a predictable ending.

Personally, I'm not pro-EU or even anti-Brexit, if you think of Brexit as a theoretical concept. (I'm not a socialist either, and I'm not "woke". My own stance is conservative with a small c).

How great it would be to set sail in the world, conquering new markets, leaving behind cumbersome European bureaucracy and red-tape, unleashing Britain's potential, saving money that we could spent on our great NHS and social care, and forging closer alliances with our Commonwealth friends and our great US partner. High-wage, high-skilled, even setting our own higher standards in education, health care and the environment, once we "Take Back Control"! And of course, we will take back control of our borders, so no more immigration unless it suits us!

It is just that it is fantasy, and always was fantasy. 

Look at the reality, which was predicted and has come to pass: 

Are our fishermen happy? No (some shell fishermen have gone out of business completely, all fishing industry has lost 30% income)

Are our farmers happy? No (they are, this week, starting the cull of 120,000 healthy pigs, they have ploughed in thousands of tons of flowers and food crops, and are planning a reduction of 25% for next year across all sectors. With the NZ trade deal, they will be undermined on prices and standards and so will we be as consumers)

Is industry happy? No (big companies aare setting up hubs in the EU, SMEs are predicting around 30% will not survive through 2022)

Have we controlled immigration? No (but we have discouraged the seasonal workers we need in hospitality, care, fishing, HGV driving and farming, and encouraged the "illegal" immigration we don't want through having left Dublin regulations. Oh, and we have antagonised our trading partners across the Channel).

Have we spare money to spend on the NHS and social care? No (economy set to contract 4% on top of the 2% Covid contraction, inflation to pass 5% by the summer)

Have our Commonwealth friends and the US welcomed us? No. (they have taken advantage of our desperation for trade deals. The US hasn't even bothered at all)

And we aren't half way through Brexit yet: we have yet to impose import controls (our vast lorry parks are unfinished, the 50,000 customs staff unrecruited), our own UKCA safety standard to dupicate the EU CE, and all the other bureaucratic red-tape we gave to impse on ourselves to trade anywhere in the world.

What I am against, is our present government of third-raters (decent Tories left or were pushed as they didn't support Brexit). They have taken Brexit as giving the green light to plunder tax-payers money, as they did with Covid. Robert Jendrick allowing a Tory doner to save £50M tax?- but he's getting Brexit done, so carry on. National Insurance to go up 1.5%- but they are doing Brexit for us, so okay. HS2 cancelled in the North, the cap on care fees set at £86k which hits people in the North more than the South becaue of the disparity in house prices- these go against the "Levelling Up" agenda- oh, but you are doing Brexit for us, so carry on.

Rupert Murdoch, Boris Johson, Jacob Rees-Mogg, and their ilk don't wake up in the mornings thinking how "sovereign" they are, and wave patriotic Union flags as they leave the house, they wake up thinking how much more wealth Brexit has amassed for them.

Imagine another fantasy: that we spent the £200 Billion we have spend so far, and the billions more that we have yet to spend- imagine we spend it on the people of the UK!

Gave Liverpool and Manchester £10 billion each to spend rejuvenating their city centres and transport, £20 billion to Devon and Cornwall to build sustainable housing and develop their fishing industry, £50 Billion to the North East to spend on whatever they want. Thinkl of all the jobs that would be created! We could even have a referendum to see how we divvied the money up! That would be a useful referendum, wouldn't it?

 

 

 

Edited November 28, 2021 by The Silver Shroud

[Dejarma]

Just now, The Silver Shroud said:

I suspect the 75% figure is plucked out of thin air. And all sentences that begin with "I'm not racist, but..." have a predictable ending.

i never said 'but'

[Silver]

6 minutes ago, Dejarma said:

i never said 'but'

I know, and it did make me chuckle! I'm not a racist either, but.....I am strongly opposed to uncontrolled immigration.