+susieice Posted December 3, 2021 Author #51 Share Posted December 3, 2021 COURT TV just said the parents will be arraigned any minute now. They will go live to the hearing when it starts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted December 3, 2021 Author #52 Share Posted December 3, 2021 It seems they were scheduled to appear for arraignment at 4 pm, but may now be on the run. They're now being sought as fugitives. https://www.whmi.com/news/article/jennifer-james-ethan-crumbley-fugitives https://www.crimeonline.com/2021/12/03/school-shooter-parents-on-the-run-fugitive-team-searches-for-ethan-crowleys-parents-missing-after-manslaughter-charges/ https://www.pennlive.com/nation-world/2021/12/on-the-run-authorities-search-for-parents-of-michigan-school-shooter.html Their attorney said they left town on the night of the shootings for safety reasons and that they will return for arraignment. I guess we wait and see. https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/michigan-school-shooting-suspects-parents-185837487.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAHQp9d_A02Q3x4eV33ygw0IaOzTXzQcjwPp_PSwIetR_8EK8oMe180ogR_rT7a7Lh9Phw6kdnRng0aVQze9EPCZVUzSfborzFQ10ypgRQDuuKYF8MrrrJ32P1lLr9HtSQpsNZ0rYXFAjv2g-a_ygqNocKkUWaxxeCg1ZPEiR7HK4 https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/news/story/michigan-school-shooting-suspects-parents-charged-81525654 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted December 3, 2021 Author #53 Share Posted December 3, 2021 COURT TV just said they are on the run. They didn't show up for their 4 pm arraignment. They are now fugitives. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted December 3, 2021 #54 Share Posted December 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Gunn said: Terroristic threats. Plain and simple. That's what they book them on. I've seen local authorities do it many times in case where criminals threaten officers, lawyers, judges in court cases. This kid made terroristic threats on social media, easy, find him, arrest him. But they don't do it. They're laxed with the law. As happens when you post, you made some good thoughtful points. I think public sentiment would be less divided over a criminal threatening a cop than over a high school kid posting on social media though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted December 3, 2021 #55 Share Posted December 3, 2021 As I understand it, the kid made many prior indications he was going to perform a school shooting, including doing a drawing a teacher took a photo of and searching for ammunition online on school computers. The parents were informed. The parents knew. The parents did nothing. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted December 3, 2021 Author #56 Share Posted December 3, 2021 I wondered what could be happening with Ethan's brother. He says he couldn't get ahold of his parents either and a former employer told him his old house was surrounded by the FBI. He lives in Florida with his mother because he didn't get along with his stepmom. https://www.ibtimes.sg/ethan-crumbley-oxford-high-school-shooter-was-happy-boy-who-never-showed-signs-violence-elder-61576 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted December 3, 2021 Author #57 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Just now, Sir Wearer of Hats said: As I understand it, the kid made many prior indications he was going to perform a school shooting, including doing a drawing a teacher took a photo of and searching for ammunition online on school computers. The parents were informed. The parents knew. The parents did nothing. I thought they had said he was caught searching for ammunition the day before the shooting. It was a week before the shooting. That was before they bought the gun. The mother took him out shooting the next day after the gun was purchased. Why would you not keep the weapon in a safe place? They gave him such easy access. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted December 3, 2021 #58 Share Posted December 3, 2021 On 11/30/2021 at 8:51 PM, Nuclear Wessel said: The sad part about all of this is the fact that it’s not even shocking to hear about shootings anymore. Yes it is. It is always shocking. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted December 3, 2021 Author #59 Share Posted December 3, 2021 The parents have been in trouble before themselves. https://www.nytimespost.com/how-ethan-crumbleys-parents-both-have-rap-sheets-with-duis-and-could-be-charged-over-oxford-high-school-deaths/ https://todaynewspost.com/news/us-news/parents-of-michigan-high-school-gunman-ethan-crumbley-had-their-own-run-ins-with-law/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted December 3, 2021 #60 Share Posted December 3, 2021 It could be the neglecting parents that the kid decided to do something for. To get their attention, or respect, or whatever. Has happened before. Sounds like a pair of class acts. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted December 3, 2021 #61 Share Posted December 3, 2021 On 12/2/2021 at 2:00 AM, kartikg said: Do agencies ever report why do students who are involved do this? Most of the time it's like he was a normal kid. Both the shooter and victims are all usually described as normal or average by media. I don't remember the sandy hook shooters ever being described as "normal, happy kids". I doubt that this one was either and the brother is just making thiings up or has not had enough experience to recognize that his family is just messed up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted December 3, 2021 Author #62 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Apparently, the parents resisted removing Ethan from school at the meeting they had hours before the shooting. This article also says the search for ammunition took place the day before the shooting. Others say longer before. https://news.yahoo.com/charging-decision-due-parents-oxford-135848170.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9uZXdzLnlhaG9vLmNvbS9ldmVyeXRoaW5nLWtub3ctZXRoYW4tY3J1bWJsZXktcGFyZW50cy0yMTU0MzQxOTAuaHRtbD9ndWNjb3VudGVyPTE&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAHplWzRw4h7I3__FtWs3Xa3UfEe4c6nFs_47WXaBU8pGHrqOoTBysWhU29ivhsMI4_fkwpEpPr6sV6jkm8ln2pMXbYcetZts-2NelRSFaucUz5j2GMwkYZmr3bCLMcqwLVTHAt-FLRPz8VhJIpKiZ48ypw3HVPBmOOW1ap7mbIze 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorybebe Posted December 3, 2021 #63 Share Posted December 3, 2021 1 hour ago, susieice said: I wondered what could be happening with Ethan's brother. He says he couldn't get ahold of his parents either and a former employer told him his old house was surrounded by the FBI. He lives in Florida with his mother because he didn't get along with his stepmom. https://www.ibtimes.sg/ethan-crumbley-oxford-high-school-shooter-was-happy-boy-who-never-showed-signs-violence-elder-61576 Well, he came out previously stating he left their home, I wonder what the whole story is 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted December 3, 2021 Author #64 Share Posted December 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, glorybebe said: Well, he came out previously stating he left their home, I wonder what the whole story is Yes. He said he didn't get along with his stepmom but didn't go into any details. He just said he felt he was better off with his mom in Florida. Something was going on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted December 3, 2021 #65 Share Posted December 3, 2021 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunn Posted December 3, 2021 #66 Share Posted December 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Tatetopa said: As happens when you post, you made some good thoughtful points. I think public sentiment would be less divided over a criminal threatening a cop than over a high school kid posting on social media though. You know what's really "F"ed up? Just yesterday or today, one of the local police/sheriff authorities made a statement that if they catch anybody making threats on this incident or for whatever reason, they will come looking for them. So now they are willing to enforce the terroristic threat laws within their power on anybody that makes threats. Well that's just great, but a little too late now. I mean really, WTF. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedutchiedutch Posted December 4, 2021 #67 Share Posted December 4, 2021 (edited) Here is a link to an open letter that the mother, Jennifer Crumbley, wrote in November 2016 to trump. The way she signed the letter, describing herself, is quite interesting the least lol. Link to open letter Jennifer Crumbley : https://archive.vn/rRL9y (edited post to fix the link that wasn't working earlier). Edited December 4, 2021 by thedutchiedutch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedutchiedutch Posted December 4, 2021 #68 Share Posted December 4, 2021 58 minutes ago, acidhead said: Thanks for the timeline. I can't believe that the school didn't send him home with the parents. Not saying that it would have prevented the shooting for sure but still. I mean how many red flags are required before a kid get suspended especially in this day and age of school shootings galore. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted December 4, 2021 #69 Share Posted December 4, 2021 22 minutes ago, thedutchiedutch said: Here is a link to an open letter that the mother, Jennifer Crumbley, wrote in November 2016 to trump. The way she signed the letter, describing herself, is quite interesting the least lol. Link to open letter Jennifer Crumbley : https://justagirlgoignthroughthisworld.wordpress.com/ LInk doesn't work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedutchiedutch Posted December 4, 2021 #70 Share Posted December 4, 2021 17 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said: LInk doesn't work Sorry, try this one please : https://archive.vn/rRL9y 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted December 4, 2021 #71 Share Posted December 4, 2021 10 minutes ago, thedutchiedutch said: Sorry, try this one please : https://archive.vn/rRL9y " I have high hopes you will shut down Big Pharma, make health care affordable for me and my MIDDLE CLASS family again. I hope you uncover the cure for cancer, because there is one, we all know it, but you are the one to prove it." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted December 4, 2021 #72 Share Posted December 4, 2021 They are blaming the school for not suspending him.His parents insisted he go back to his class 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Raven Posted December 4, 2021 #73 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Well that escalated quickly. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted December 4, 2021 Author #74 Share Posted December 4, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, thedutchiedutch said: Thanks for the timeline. I can't believe that the school didn't send him home with the parents. Not saying that it would have prevented the shooting for sure but still. I mean how many red flags are required before a kid get suspended especially in this day and age of school shootings galore. No one thought to look in his backpack to see if there were any more notes or drawings. School officials didn't ask to look either. The kid had the gun in the backpack right there in that meeting. Edited December 4, 2021 by susieice 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted December 4, 2021 #75 Share Posted December 4, 2021 50 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said: " I have high hopes you will shut down Big Pharma, make health care affordable for me and my MIDDLE CLASS family again. I hope you uncover the cure for cancer, because there is one, we all know it, but you are the one to prove it." Wow, thats almost at the level of, "Dear Jesus....". 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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