Karahan Tepe and Gobekli Tepe are just adorned bathing pools ?

[jethrofloyd]

27 minutes ago, Ove said:

and a primitive subterranean rainwater cistern

 

So Ove, according to your logic, Neolithic people who lived 12,000 years ago were incomparably more advanced than these people of today? Those people here builds the rainwater systems of 'wood twigs', while the Neolithiic people used 40-50 tons heavy stones! 

 

 

 

 

[Abramelin]

4 minutes ago, Ove said:

Uncerful digging ? this is what the walls look like

You're right. My mistake.

[Ove]

8 minutes ago, jethrofloyd said:

So Ove, according to your logic, Neolithic people who lived 12,000 years ago were incomparably more advanced than these people of today? Those people here builds the rainwater systems of 'wood twigs', while the Neolithiic people used 40-50 tons heavy stones! 

They didn't have concrete, thats why the walls were made of stone. The roof construction was made of wood.

Edited December 18, 2021 by Ove

[jethrofloyd]

53 minutes ago, Ove said:

The roofs are gone, that's all

If so with a roof, this can be used for example for ''Food storage'' . Nothing says it has to be a Water tank.

[Abramelin]

The ACTUAL cisterns at Göbekli Tepe:

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Structure-Bs-interior-during-excavation-The-broken-into-two-pieces-cistern-possibly-a_fig15_317433676

 

Edited December 18, 2021 by Abramelin

[jethrofloyd]

2 hours ago, Abramelin said:

 

Yes, only this part is an ACTUAL cistern. Not the whole constructions as you normally say. I once watched the National Geographic show about GT - The riddle of the Stone Giants - and Lee Clare explained how these stone tanks/cisterns were most likely used to store the first local forms of beer. The beer would be drunk by neolithic GT visitors during a festivities and ceremonies held here.

[jmccr8]

Hi Ove

the walls are not water proof and the water would deep into the surrounding soil so it would take a lot of effort to haul water to keep it full and would likely be muddy. There is no indication of calcium build up from water on the walls of the structure either so not likely what you are trying to push as a possibility 

[Hanslune]

13 hours ago, Ove said:

It says: "Schmidt also noted the presence of several cisterns carved into the bedrock under the site, holding at least 150 cubic metres (5,300 cu ft) of water, and subsequent excavation has uncovered a possible rainwater harvesting system"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Göbekli_Tepe

My understanding is that Göbekli Tepe first had cisterns carved into the bedrock, like the ones in Karahan Tepe. The subterranean stone circles that they have found, are the new cisterns.

The one cistern I can find a photo of doesn't have pillars.

[Hanslune]

7 hours ago, Ove said:

They didn't have concrete, thats why the walls were made of stone. The roof construction was made of wood.

Probably a tent like structure perhaps reinforced by poles

[Hanslune]

7 hours ago, Ove said:

They didn't have concrete, thats why the walls were made of stone. The roof construction was made of wood.

Then how did they seal them against water leakage, they probably wanted them to leak especially in the winter when it rained

[Ove]

13 hours ago, Abramelin said:

The ACTUAL cisterns at Göbekli Tepe:

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Structure-Bs-interior-during-excavation-The-broken-into-two-pieces-cistern-possibly-a_fig15_317433676

 

No, that's a porthole stone. Probably a part of the roof.

Edited December 19, 2021 by Ove

[Ove]

9 hours ago, jmccr8 said:

Hi Ove

the walls are not water proof and the water would deep into the surrounding soil so it would take a lot of effort to haul water to keep it full and would likely be muddy. There is no indication of calcium build up from water on the walls of the structure either so not likely what you are trying to push as a possibility 

Edited December 19, 2021 by Ove

[Abramelin]

50 minutes ago, Ove said:

No, that's a porthole stone. Probably a part of the roof.

Ok, but that does suggest that the rest of the roof was made of stone too.

Unless you are suggesting this obvious heavy porthole stone was held up by mere wooden beams, where is the rest of that roof? Wood decays.

[Abramelin]

52 minutes ago, Abramelin said:

Ok, but that does suggest that the rest of the roof was made of stone too.

Unless you are suggesting this obvious heavy porthole stone was held up by mere wooden beams, where is the rest of that roof? Wood decays.

I am learning as I go along, heh.

The porthole was built into the wall of the structure:

https://tepetelegrams.wordpress.com/2017/04/03/two-foxes-and-a-bucranium-the-first-in-situ-porthole-stone-from-gobekli-tepe/

An entrance at the bottom of the wall would create some problems for the structure to be a cistern.

 

[jethrofloyd]

52 minutes ago, Abramelin said:

 

 

Is it only my imagination, or it's realy a stone mushroom at the left(middle) side of the picture?

[jethrofloyd]

This a picture of a quite famous Abraham's Pool at the nearby city of Urfa. It is obvious a people in this area have a long tradition of building of the water structures.

[Harte]

6 hours ago, Abramelin said:

I am learning as I go along, heh.

The porthole was built into the wall of the structure:

https://tepetelegrams.wordpress.com/2017/04/03/two-foxes-and-a-bucranium-the-first-in-situ-porthole-stone-from-gobekli-tepe/

An entrance at the bottom of the wall would create some problems for the structure to be a cistern.

 

There's that mysterious stripey stick again.

They are found at archaeological digs all around the world, but never explained.

We DO know, however, that different cultures had different stripey sticks.

Most were black and white like this one, but some cultures created red and white ones.

The red and white stripey stick cultures are hypothesized to be the progenitors of the Berbers, given the well-known red and white striped Berber pole.

Harte

[Hanslune]

2 hours ago, Harte said:

There's that mysterious stripey stick again.

They are found at archaeological digs all around the world, but never explained.

We DO know, however, that different cultures had different stripey sticks.

Most were black and white like this one, but some cultures created red and white ones.

The red and white stripey stick cultures are hypothesized to be the progenitors of the Berbers, given the well-known red and white striped Berber pole.

Harte

That is the indigenous Flavo et nigro a type of subterranean excavation worm. It thrives on coffee & sweat

[Harte]

Example of Berber-related red stripey sticks:

Harte

[Hanslune]

4 hours ago, Harte said:

Example of Berber-related red stripey sticks:

Harte

These are aiming posts used by NATO artillery and before GPS and lasers for manual surveying of artillery positions. This astonishing discovery is clear proof that some modern artilleryman time traveled back to said period! OMG, time to re-write the history books with an apology to H.G. Wells for thinking his book was a 'novel'.

[jethrofloyd]

What about the black and red stripey stick combined? 

[jmccr8]

On 12/19/2021 at 5:28 AM, Ove said:

Hi Ove

Not sure where you are seeing a consistent water line on the columns on 2 of them the points you have marked are higher than the walls. Whet one can see is the dark staining running down the columns that might indicate that there was a roof on the structure and some leakage in the roof envelope.

[Harte]

3 hours ago, jethrofloyd said:

What about the black and red stripey stick combined? 

SNAKE!!!

Harte

[Harte]

New red stripey stick hypothesis:

Harte

[docyabut2]

On 12/8/2021 at 4:53 PM, Ove said:

Ancient bathing pools ?

 Want about standing water with Algla turning the water into green and stinks and millions of mosquitoes ?