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Karahan Tepe and Gobekli Tepe are just adorned bathing pools ?


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On 12/23/2021 at 12:51 PM, docyabut2 said:

 Want about standing water with Algae turning the water into green and stinks and millions of mosquitoes ?

Docy, you have posted the most sane reply to this crazy idea.

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1 hour ago, Frank_Hoenedge said:

All of the animals were saved in Noah’s ark 

So the answer is 27 then?

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5 hours ago, Abramelin said:

So the answer is 27 then?

Yeah, you are confused, Frank.

But so was I when I read your latest post in this thread.

What, in fk's name, has Noah's ark and his twin pets have to do with this topic?

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After adorned basinlike pools carved in bedrock at Karahan Tepe. I still say adorned subterranean cisterns or water tanks at Gobekli Tepe.

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15 minutes ago, Ove said:

I still say subterranean cisterns, water tanks

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Did you forget about the entrances at the bottom of the walls I posted about earlier?

And no, they didn't lead to a nearby river or something.

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14 minutes ago, Abramelin said:

Did you forget about the entrances at the bottom of the walls I posted about earlier?

And no, they didn't lead to a nearby river or something.

Subterranean entrance 30x45 cm ? I don't think your picture was a entrance. More likely a water connection between two cisterns.

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21 minutes ago, Ove said:

Subterranean entrance 30x45 cm ? I don't think your picture was a entrance. More likely a water connection between two cisterns.

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From the link in post 115:

"It was discovered in 2011 in a deep sounding excavated to the north of Enclosure B. Apart from revealing a so far unknown part of this enclosure and two more of its pillars, immediately on the bedrock several walls outside of the enclosure were discovered. In one of them, a decorated porthole stone stood in situ. The subrectangular hole in the middle of the stone is flanked by two antithetic foxes, apparently portrayed in the moment of jumping (at each other, at the entrance, the visitor?). Above the hole, a bucranium was placed. Unfortunately, the sounding could not be enlarged to explore the room enclosed by the wall. It thus remains unclear, whether the porthole stone really marks the entrance to the building, or the animals were ‘guarding’ a niche with important contents within a room."

Explain thàt, please.

 

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1 hour ago, Abramelin said:

From the link in post 115:

"It was discovered in 2011 in a deep sounding excavated to the north of Enclosure B. Apart from revealing a so far unknown part of this enclosure and two more of its pillars, immediately on the bedrock several walls outside of the enclosure were discovered. In one of them, a decorated porthole stone stood in situ. The subrectangular hole in the middle of the stone is flanked by two antithetic foxes, apparently portrayed in the moment of jumping (at each other, at the entrance, the visitor?). Above the hole, a bucranium was placed. Unfortunately, the sounding could not be enlarged to explore the room enclosed by the wall. It thus remains unclear, whether the porthole stone really marks the entrance to the building, or the animals were ‘guarding’ a niche with important contents within a room."

Explain thàt, please.

 

The actual size of the porthole is indicated by the measuring stick, which is marked off in ten cm bands. This is not a entrance to a room.

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20 minutes ago, Ove said:

The actual size of the porthole is indicated by the measuring stick, which is marked off in ten cm bands. This is not a entrance to a room.

It may have been, but not for adults.

And what about those foxes that show up in many places? Did they keep ducks in those swimming pools and let foxes have a go at them?

 

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5 minutes ago, Abramelin said:

It may have been, but not for adults.

And what about those foxes that show up in many places? Did they keep ducks in those swimming pools and let foxes have a go at them?

 

Those animals are just adornment, like in India.

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14 minutes ago, Ove said:

Those animals are just adornment, like in India.

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I don't buy that. Their tools must have been just rocks. And you don't go pounding for months on end to carve merely for decoration. Well, not if you are a hunter-gatherer.

These foxes must have meant something very special to them.

 

Another thing:

"There are no artesian phenomena at Göbekli Tepe. Rain water was collected in cisterns on the limestone plateaus adjacent to the site, but no porthole stones were ever found in such contexts. None of the known porthole stones shows any signs for water running through the openings."

https://www.dainst.blog/the-tepe-telegrams/2017/04/03/two-foxes-and-a-bucranium-the-first-in-situ-porthole-stone-from-gobekli-tepe/

I think jmccr8 already mentioned that none of the known porthole stones shows any signs for water running through the openings.

So how about that?

 

 

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GT wasn't either the bathing pools, or a religious site. The discovery of the large numbers of animal bones confirms the presence of a community at Göbekli Tepe, As there has yet to be found any corroborating evidence of a sacrificial purpose, their presence in the buildings may not indicate a ritual purpose at all. But, instead, the wholly secular subsidence of nearby refuse piled into the buildings over time.

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  • 2 weeks later...

The Ancient Architects YouTube channel has a few things to say about this in the last 24hrs:

Link to YouTube video

 

Obviously, there is the discovery commentary in 2017 that counters this realistic and rational claim:

Science dot Org link referencing modified crania, akin to the execution of an angel in Enoch: The Vardijas

 

It’s one of the most comprehensive finds of pre-history at the moment. It might yet end up being something completely different when the backfill is examined, I doubt all the soil, pebbles and stones were filled so neatly based on availability.

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1 hour ago, Ove said:

Rainwater harvesting basins

 

And here we see an example of what happens when a Dunning-Kruger victim does videos..  

It's another "I have no idea and I don't know anything about the site or the culture but I'm going to by-gosh tell you all about it anyway because the people studying it have no idea what they're doing and are on the wrong track, according to my magnificent brain."   All the "May be" and "could be" and "no doubt"  and "It is thought" phrases and "in my opinion"... if you too a drink every time those phrases came up, you'd be drunk eight minutes into the video.

 

 

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14 hours ago, Kenemet said:

 All the "May be" and "could be" and "no doubt"  and "It is thought" phrases and "in my opinion"... if you too a drink every time those phrases came up, you'd be drunk eight minutes into the video.

I recommend having drinks before you watch his videos. 

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The porthole with foxes on either side is obviously a foxy (doggy) door. There is evidence that people domesticated foxes and dogs back then.

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10 hours ago, Ove said:

 

And Ove, what makes this a 'super civilization'?

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