UM-Bot Posted January 2, 2022 #1 Share Posted January 2, 2022 The space agency reportedly enlisted religious experts and practitioners to help predict how the world would react. https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/354081/nasa-sought-advice-from-priests-on-impact-of-alien-contact 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CryptoGirl Posted January 2, 2022 #2 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Well there was a news report that they had recovered off world vehicles so maybe they want to come out with this and an update? What a waste of government spending. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted January 2, 2022 #3 Share Posted January 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, CryptoGirl said: Well there was a news report that they had recovered off world vehicles so maybe they want to come out with this and an update? What a waste of government spending. What? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CryptoGirl Posted January 2, 2022 #4 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Yeah its mentioned in this video. off world vehicles recovered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted January 2, 2022 #5 Share Posted January 2, 2022 2 hours ago, UM-Bot said: The space agency reportedly enlisted religious experts and practitioners to help predict how the world would react. https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/354081/nasa-sought-advice-from-priests-on-impact-of-alien-contact Priests have fkd with our minds for thousands of years. So yes, they are the ones to ask for advise. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CryptoGirl Posted January 2, 2022 #6 Share Posted January 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Abramelin said: Priests have fkd with our minds for thousands of years. So yes, they are the ones to ask for advise. They could at least ask the Pope who all ready mentions he would accept as long as aliens except God, so free advice, cough 1.1 million dollars. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godnodog Posted January 2, 2022 #7 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Snowflakes everywhere. If discovering alien life makes you question your faith, than I'll make Dr. Banner's words my own "Puny god" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted January 2, 2022 #8 Share Posted January 2, 2022 57 minutes ago, CryptoGirl said: Yeah its mentioned in this video. off world vehicles recovered Then it must be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.A.T.1961 Posted January 2, 2022 #9 Share Posted January 2, 2022 (edited) You can ask a theologian any question, but don't expect an answer for at least several thousand years. Edited January 2, 2022 by L.A.T.1961 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted January 2, 2022 #10 Share Posted January 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, L.A.T.1961 said: You can ask a theologian any question, but don't expect an answer for at least several thousand years. Maybe. But in our current world, would any kind of proof of God be accepted? That's a serious question. What would it take to convince the average sceptic/cynic that a Creator God actually exists? I think the last couple of generations have been conditioned to reject the idea of a divine intelligence but to accept an advanced technology from out side our time or space / dimension. IOW, we are more apt to believe the possibility of advanced tech than of an advanced omniscient intelligence. I think it gets down to mankind's innate pride in our own accomplishments. Either way, I think the world at large will be FAR more likely to accept an alien visitation than to accept the idea that scripture was a message and that we were expected to conform to it IF we wanted a life less troubled. The same group who will mock the idea of God, will joyfully accept the delusion that we were seeded onto this planet and that our "makers" are finally coming back for a visit. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.A.T.1961 Posted January 2, 2022 #11 Share Posted January 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, and then said: Maybe. But in our current world, would any kind of proof of God be accepted? That's a serious question. What would it take to convince the average sceptic/cynic that a Creator God actually exists? I think the last couple of generations have been conditioned to reject the idea of a divine intelligence but to accept an advanced technology from out side our time or space / dimension. IOW, we are more apt to believe the possibility of advanced tech than of an advanced omniscient intelligence. I think it gets down to mankind's innate pride in our own accomplishments. Either way, I think the world at large will be FAR more likely to accept an alien visitation than to accept the idea that scripture was a message and that we were expected to conform to it IF we wanted a life less troubled. The same group who will mock the idea of God, will joyfully accept the delusion that we were seeded onto this planet and that our "makers" are finally coming back for a visit. If proof were found, that an intelligence was solely responsible for Man and the universe, then yes I think it would be fully acknowledged. But the proof would have to be based on science, not belief. It would be far easer to believe in ET if they arrived in orbit than an, as yet, unsubstantiated religion. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Noteverythingisaconspiracy Posted January 2, 2022 #12 Share Posted January 2, 2022 34 minutes ago, and then said: Maybe. But in our current world, would any kind of proof of God be accepted? That's a serious question. If it's undeniable I don't see why most people wouldn't accept it. 34 minutes ago, and then said: What would it take to convince the average sceptic/cynic that a Creator God actually exists? I my case the answer would be that I don't know. 34 minutes ago, and then said: I think the last couple of generations have been conditioned to reject the idea of a divine intelligence but to accept an advanced technology from out side our time or space / dimension. I think that most people don't spend much time thinking about aliens and other dimensions in the first place. 34 minutes ago, and then said: IOW, we are more apt to believe the possibility of advanced tech than of an advanced omniscient intelligence. We know for a fact that advanced technology exists, unlike an advanced omnicient intelligence. 34 minutes ago, and then said: I think it gets down to mankind's innate pride in our own accomplishments. Whats wrong with that ? 34 minutes ago, and then said: Either way, I think the world at large will be FAR more likely to accept an alien visitation than to accept the idea that scripture was a message and that we were expected to conform to it IF we wanted a life less troubled. Maybe it would be easier to believe scripture if it was more clear and accurate, instead of requiring priests and apologists to interpret it. Speaking of that, it would be more easy to accept it, if those priests and apologists atleast agreed with eachother as to what it means. 34 minutes ago, and then said: The same group who will mock the idea of God, will joyfully accept the delusion that we were seeded onto this planet and that our "makers" are finally coming back for a visit. How many people actually believe that ? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted January 2, 2022 #13 Share Posted January 2, 2022 16 minutes ago, Noteverythingisaconspiracy said: If it's undeniable I don't see why most people wouldn't accept it. Maybe I should have explained it in more detail. Let's say there is an event that seems to defy our known experience to such a degree that it seems like "magic". An entity proclaims itself to be the source of that phenomenon and DEMANDS worship or obedience to it or there will be negative consequences. How would people react then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted January 2, 2022 #14 Share Posted January 2, 2022 19 minutes ago, Noteverythingisaconspiracy said: How many people actually believe that ? I don't have a number. How many people believe in UFOs being evidence of extraterrestrial intelligence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted January 2, 2022 #15 Share Posted January 2, 2022 21 minutes ago, Noteverythingisaconspiracy said: I think that most people don't spend much time thinking about aliens and other dimensions in the first place. I thought this thread was predicated on precisely that situation. Just to be clear, if I saw an entity, for lack of a better descriptor, appear from the sky and begin to communicate with people I believe those people would be thrilled and amazed but would not accept that entity as God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Noteverythingisaconspiracy Posted January 2, 2022 #16 Share Posted January 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, and then said: Maybe I should have explained it in more detail. Let's say there is an event that seems to defy our known experience to such a degree that it seems like "magic". An entity proclaims itself to be the source of that phenomenon and DEMANDS worship or obedience to it or there will be negative consequences. How would people react then? I don't know how people would respond. On the other hand someone that demands worship and threatens negative consequences if you don't, sounds awfully familiar. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Noteverythingisaconspiracy Posted January 2, 2022 #17 Share Posted January 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, and then said: I thought this thread was predicated on precisely that situation. Just to be clear, if I saw an entity, for lack of a better descriptor, appear from the sky and begin to communicate with people I believe those people would be thrilled and amazed but would not accept that entity as God. It's a completely hyphothetical situation, so there is no way of knowing how people would react to that if it actually happened. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Noteverythingisaconspiracy Posted January 2, 2022 #18 Share Posted January 2, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, and then said: I don't have a number. How many people believe in UFOs being evidence of extraterrestrial intelligence? That wasn't the question. This is what I responed to: 1 hour ago, and then said: The same group who will mock the idea of God, will joyfully accept the delusion that we were seeded onto this planet and that our "makers" are finally coming back for a visit. People "who will mock the idea of God, will joyfully accept the delusion that we were seeded onto this planet and that our "makers" are finally coming back for a visit." is likely to be a very small group. Edited January 2, 2022 by Noteverythingisaconspiracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted January 3, 2022 #19 Share Posted January 3, 2022 22 hours ago, and then said: What would it take to convince the average sceptic/cynic that a Creator God actually exists? That this entity actually creates something in front of our eyes, recording cameras present? Raise the dead? And I mean REALLY dead? Or give some war veteran his lost arm or leg back? Make a tornado/taifun disappear while it's at its peak? I can think of a lot more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted January 3, 2022 #20 Share Posted January 3, 2022 On 1/2/2022 at 8:03 PM, CryptoGirl said: Yeah its mentioned in this video. off world vehicles recovered It's on video, so it must be true. < sigh > 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted January 3, 2022 #21 Share Posted January 3, 2022 23 hours ago, and then said: Maybe. But in our current world, would any kind of proof of God be accepted? That's a serious question. I think the last couple of generations have been conditioned to reject the idea of a divine intelligence but to accept an advanced technology from out side our time or space / dimension. The last couple of generations have not been conditioned but they build their worldview based on real facts and not on a 2k years old fairy tale (RCC) that was designed for the reason of oppression and exploitation. Thus, an acceptance of the possibility of advanced (and/or plain stupid) alien life forms out there is based on given probabilities and beyond. Quote What would it take to convince the average sceptic/cynic that a Creator God actually exists? Why do you call them sceptic/cynic? Quote IOW, we are more apt to believe the possibility of advanced tech than of an advanced omniscient intelligence. Yes, because we are doing advanced tech and its likely that there is much more advanced tech out there. There is no need for such thing as an omniscient intelligence, its a dream only. Quote The same group who will mock the idea of God, will joyfully accept the delusion that we were seeded onto this planet and that our "makers" are finally coming back for a visit. Ok, then lets wait for Mr. God. BTW and eg.: why doesnt he visited Auschwitz when the daily trains arrived there? Was he at a ship christening in the NGC 1297 system or some like that? 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csspwns Posted January 4, 2022 #22 Share Posted January 4, 2022 On 1/2/2022 at 1:12 PM, and then said: Maybe. But in our current world, would any kind of proof of God be accepted? That's a serious question. What would it take to convince the average sceptic/cynic that a Creator God actually exists? Easy, biblical miracles. They happened all the time back in the old days so what's stopping them or events of similar magnitudes from happening now? Don't tell me something as powerful and omnipotent as "God" has been stopped by the advent of video recording technology and critical thinking! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csspwns Posted January 4, 2022 #23 Share Posted January 4, 2022 On 1/2/2022 at 1:12 PM, and then said: Either way, I think the world at large will be FAR more likely to accept an alien visitation than to accept the idea that scripture was a message and that we were expected to conform to it IF we wanted a life less troubled. The same group who will mock the idea of God, will joyfully accept the delusion that we were seeded onto this planet and that our "makers" are finally coming back for a visit. Be honest with yourself. Are you conforming to the scripture or making the scripture conform to your views on life? That is, do you prefer certain interpretations of the scripture over others if it's in your benefit? The often vague wording, context, translation issues, etc, provided in scripture as well as the inability for legitimate verification makes for a lot of fun when it comes to deciding on the meaning of the content. On 1/2/2022 at 2:20 PM, and then said: Maybe I should have explained it in more detail. Let's say there is an event that seems to defy our known experience to such a degree that it seems like "magic". An entity proclaims itself to be the source of that phenomenon and DEMANDS worship or obedience to it or there will be negative consequences. How would people react then? You sound like you're projecting. Is fear of negative consequences one of the reasons why you worship/believe in "God?" If an entitity such as you describe were to show up, they would be able to reveal a lot more for us to believe that we should listen to what it says. Much more than what "God" has supposedly provided for us to have a concrete reason to believe in "Him." If an entity does something as "simple" as making a limb regrow in front of our eyes, that's already much more than what "God" has done in terms of proof for us modern day people. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted January 4, 2022 #24 Share Posted January 4, 2022 On 1/2/2022 at 5:31 PM, Noteverythingisaconspiracy said: I don't know how people would respond. On the other hand someone that demands worship and threatens negative consequences if you don't, sounds awfully familiar. ^ yep And many a knee stays bent with head down and eye blind to that someone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted January 4, 2022 #25 Share Posted January 4, 2022 10 hours ago, Abramelin said: That this entity actually creates something in front of our eyes, recording cameras present? Raise the dead? And I mean REALLY dead? Or give some war veteran his lost arm or leg back? Make a tornado/taifun disappear while it's at its peak? I can think of a lot more. Intriguing, Because believers say "God" could do anything all that included but but but sci-fi has shown me aliens as in not "God" of christian etc beliefs could also do all that and more. So depending on their technology aliens could very well be "God" and von weird hair spray tan guy was right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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