ChrLzs Posted February 24, 2022 #376 Share Posted February 24, 2022 53 minutes ago, Gummug said: Got a lot of things to do but I will try to get back to this...if I don't forget!! Just discouraging that sources are not trusted, and really, somebody needs to fact check the fact checkers... Ask yourself - what's stopping them? Why do the fact checking sites almost always tell the same story? Why aren't some of them (actually, at least half of them..) fact checking and coming to the opposite conclusion? Here's a big hint, it's because you can generally verify what the fact checking sites say, from other sources, from going back to the original quotes and context, from digging up the actual statistics or raw data. I have to say that the US seems to have a huge hole in their education system, in the area of teaching people how to find/recognise credible sources and how to actually do research. And that's why it is has been so easy for manipulative websites and a quite well-organised set of media campaigns, to so easily fool a lot of people - people already with a huge (and justified) mistrust of the gubmint.. 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gummug Posted February 24, 2022 #377 Share Posted February 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, ChrLzs said: Ask yourself - what's stopping them? Why do the fact checking sites almost always tell the same story? Why aren't some of them (actually, at least half of them..) fact checking and coming to the opposite conclusion? Here's a big hint, it's because you can generally verify what the fact checking sites say, from other sources, from going back to the original quotes and context, from digging up the actual statistics or raw data. I have to say that the US seems to have a huge hole in their education system, in the area of teaching people how to find/recognise credible sources and how to actually do research. And that's why it is has been so easy for manipulative websites and a quite well-organised set of media campaigns, to so easily fool a lot of people - people already with a huge (and justified) mistrust of the gubmint.. Well, I think our schools are doing a good job of dumbing down our kids, and imo in some schools the discipline is so bad, it's hard even for the kids who WANT to learn, to learn. As far as mistrust of government, do you want me to make a list of things they have lied about, and important promises not kept? 1 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrLzs Posted February 24, 2022 #378 Share Posted February 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, Gummug said: Well, I think our schools are doing a good job of dumbing down our kids, and imo in some schools the discipline is so bad, it's hard even for the kids who WANT to learn, to learn. As far as mistrust of government, do you want me to make a list of things they have lied about, and important promises not kept? Nah, I think I know most of what you'd have on that list! Things is, that you can't throw everything out and say that it's all lies. If it is really that bad, all is lost and you should move to a different country.... Better to look for the good, and try to build on that - and please vote, and also vote for better candidates. Or better yet, become one. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted February 25, 2022 #379 Share Posted February 25, 2022 4 hours ago, taniwha said: What's your argument? I'm just interested in facts. That we are nowhere near Graphene injectable nanobots. It also said the experiment was in vitro It also said Graphene was highly toxic to cells. 1 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taniwha Posted February 25, 2022 #380 Share Posted February 25, 2022 59 minutes ago, psyche101 said: That we are nowhere near Graphene injectable nanobots. It also said the experiment was in vitro It also said Graphene was highly toxic to cells. Ok. Do you think advancements have been made in the 4 years since the article? I really would need a degree to understand the link but it seems to mention it is a bio sensor, any ideas? There is no dispute that the graphene is in vials/infections/humans right? There already is cause for concern over allergic reactions.. off the top of my head PEG comes to mind. Have you heard about that? 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taniwha Posted February 25, 2022 #381 Share Posted February 25, 2022 3 hours ago, ChrLzs said: Nah, I think I know most of what you'd have on that list! Things is, that you can't throw everything out and say that it's all lies. If it is really that bad, all is lost and you should move to a different country.... Better to look for the good, and try to build on that - and please vote, and also vote for better candidates. Or better yet, become one. For once I agree but only with 50% of your post. These scumbag politicians who writhe and turn on everything they say are not going to change. They are comfortably numb. I vote for alternatives. Common law springs to mind. Community for communities sakes. A step back it might seem to many but I think whoever is steering this machine into the future is driving the world insane. Science and technology promises much but it's use first and foremost is control and the world has been put in madman shackles and jacket. I Know you probably hate the picture I paint, it's a feeling more than a concrete reality I hope. SInce you have faith in the establishment I'm keen to know what you think our next 5 or 10 years looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted February 25, 2022 #382 Share Posted February 25, 2022 On 2/23/2022 at 8:15 PM, taniwha said: Right. Got it back Just as all of what you post is false. 1 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted February 25, 2022 #383 Share Posted February 25, 2022 23 hours ago, taniwha said: Nanotech in vaccines or nanoparticulates in vaccine are real. In one Pfizer dose alone exist 5 billon particles of graphene xide that will react to a certain bandwidth. The technology is interactive and even if I showed that to be true I guess you will still doubt it unless an govt expert tells you it is there, but you still won't feel outraged because it is there for your own safety. Is that the size of it? Nothing you post is real. You post nothing but lie after lie. Here you post nothing but stupidity. But that is what you do. You post the sort of nonsense no one with a 4th grade education would believe. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted February 25, 2022 #384 Share Posted February 25, 2022 23 hours ago, taniwha said: On the contrary. You might learn something. You wouldn't have to ask me to prove how many vaccxed are protesting the split is at least 50/50. You would know this if you took time to do the footwork and mingle. Good intelligent folk who can function and create a future society without a mRNA jab More idiotic ranting.The evidence has and continues to show you are choosing a ludicrously failed position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted February 25, 2022 #385 Share Posted February 25, 2022 22 hours ago, taniwha said: Have you yourself checked if it's that easy? How many times have you asked a doctor for a vile of vaccine to check? Not very forthcoming is it? Not that easy is it? Even the NZ govt doesn't conduct independent scientific analysis with all the technology at their disposal. Why is that do you think? Is that not the scientific way? I might listen to you if you can verify your claim independent of the media you cherry pick towards your own ends. You can't have everything both ways Here are noting but the rantings of an uneducated lunatic. Vaccines are checked. You claim they are not. How doltish is that? Extremely in my opinion. Please continue to show how little you know about the subjects you rant on about. On the other hand, you might decide to become educated. I know it takes effort and is much harder than spouting stupidity. In the end you will be thankful you made the effort to learn. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted February 25, 2022 #386 Share Posted February 25, 2022 19 hours ago, taniwha said: From your link: Everything You Thought You New About Paranoid Phobias But We're Afraid To Ask Of course you have no idea what the nanotech is all about. You'll have to graduate from third grade to understand. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted February 25, 2022 #387 Share Posted February 25, 2022 18 hours ago, taniwha said: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29495255/ Awesome for showing that the density of particles would have to be at the level that would be visible to the human eye.Well doen for showing how incrediby dense you are about these issues. Bravo, well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted February 25, 2022 #388 Share Posted February 25, 2022 58 minutes ago, taniwha said: Ok. Do you think advancements have been made in the 4 years since the article? Without doubt but not to the nanobot technology level. Insect level is about as far as we have got. Cell level is a whole new ballgame. 58 minutes ago, taniwha said: I really would need a degree to understand the link but it seems to mention it is a bio sensor, any ideas? Biosensors have been in use for some time. Mainly chemical in nature they can attach themselves to a certain process to identify it. Electronics have entered the field now. You could call a smartwatch a bio sensor. A good example of a commonly used biosensor is a glucometer. With Graphene, from what I understand of the article can latch into specific enzymes to identify them. 58 minutes ago, taniwha said: There is no dispute that the graphene is in vials/infections/humans right? Vials yes. That's what in vitro means. Otherwise it depends on application. Like silver, Graphene has anti biotic properties too. 58 minutes ago, taniwha said: There already is cause for concern over allergic reactions.. off the top of my head PEG comes to mind. Have you heard about that? Polyethylene glycol you mean? Hyper sensitivity has been recorded as increasing so several studies are underway. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted February 25, 2022 #389 Share Posted February 25, 2022 5 hours ago, Gummug said: Okay I found this link from AARP, by no means a conservative group: https://www.aarp.org/health/drugs-supplements/info-2020/covid-vaccine-myths.html?CMP=KNC-DSO-COR-COVID-21439-GOOG-HEALTH-COVID-DrugsSupplement-VaccineMyths-Phrase-NonBrand&gclid=CjwKCAiA9tyQBhAIEiwA6tdCrBAS6-4tKN2Oy99pmFO1Vd2m-YuMIYmvKvdLbk-4v5wH-Ab1-Dgn0BoC7XgQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds I don't agree with them, but I think it's interesting, even according to THEM, after being vaxxed, you still should wear a mask, so that just tells me it's no good (the shot). That's a very poor understanding when you suggest "so that just tells me it's no good (the shot)." Here are two different issues: vaccines and masks. Maybe you do not understand that. That's okay. A vaccine protects you. A mask protects others. See the difference? I know you do. A vaccine is not 100%. If you fall outside of the coverage then you can get the disease. Fortunately, you are unlikely to be hospitalized or die. But you might make other people sick. So wear a mask and protect them. 3 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taniwha Posted February 26, 2022 #390 Share Posted February 26, 2022 On 2/25/2022 at 4:14 PM, stereologist said: Awesome for showing that the density of particles would have to be at the level that would be visible to the human eye.Well doen for showing how incrediby dense you are about these issues. Bravo, well done. Prove to me your not getting paid by Pfizer for propagating their lies. If you can prove that your not getting paid then get in touch with them your overdue for a pay cheque 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrLzs Posted February 27, 2022 #391 Share Posted February 27, 2022 (edited) I guess one should always realise that it takes all kinds, and that some folks just aren't equipped with the sort of basic logic to understand just how stupid stuff like this ridiculous graphene oxide claim is. It's way beyond stupid. Now sure, I was a reasonable student (lazy as all hell, but smart enough..) and liked science so I knew/know a fair bit about it. Later in life due to the large amount of high-level experience I had gathered in related topics, I was selected to be the Operations Manager at a research centre (marine sciences and aquaculture). It was a brand new centre with huge aquaria/tanks, a high power seawater pump & filtration systems, and, to get ontopic, 2 very well equipped teaching laboratories. Those labs included high and low power microscopes (one each for every student), full chemical composition / identification systems including chromatography and spectrophotometry, even DNA extraction and separation devices... and lots of other cool stuff for me to set up and then look after. Admittedly we didn't have an electron 'scope on campus, but we could borrow one from the main campus. Apart from me, and everyone else who worked at the centre, all of our students were also free to use all this equipment at any time and for any purpose. Plus, you can easily just ring your nearest scientific supplies store and have anything you want delivered. This is easy science, in the grasp of even the most 'challenged' persons.... So these claims of nanobots and huge chemical contamination are utterly stupid - simply impossible. All that, in other words the ease by which any such conspiracy would be instantly uncovered, has been explained in detail to certain people. Some have learnt or at least agreed to look a bit harder, and just to THINK sensibly. But we are always left with one or two, who will maintain their mindless beliefs even when the truth is slapping them in the face like a wet fish. It's a sad thing, but it's also reprehensible that they push this stuff down the throats of the even stupider... (it is rather hard to envisage how you could be stupider, but .. there you go..) Edited February 27, 2022 by ChrLzs 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted February 27, 2022 #392 Share Posted February 27, 2022 On 2/21/2022 at 10:10 PM, Crazy Horse said: Here's the thing.. Did anyone here vote for the W.H.O. or the UN? Or SAGE, or Imperial Collage London, or the BBC, or the Guardian newspaper, or the WEF, or GAVI, or Billy Jab Jabs etc etc etc..? No. Then why are they all pushing, in lockstep, the same narrative of, "Jab Till Dead" , whilst saner Drs like Malone are completely ignored? Hint.. . UN Agenda 2021 - 2030 Otherwise known as The Chicken Little Protocol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted February 27, 2022 #393 Share Posted February 27, 2022 59 minutes ago, Golden Duck said: Otherwise known as The Chicken Little Protocol. Chicken Little. Sweet and Sour Duck. Its all one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted February 27, 2022 #394 Share Posted February 27, 2022 On 2/23/2022 at 12:47 PM, psyche101 said: It's wrong though. Surely you can correct him as a citizen? I read that they said sneezing into your elbows or sleeve is better than using your hands cupped. And they recommend you use a tissue and discard it. Nothing about it being superior to a mask. Well the immediate above shows it's interpretation. People hear what they want to hear. It's not the first time in these threads that posters have made such claims that could not be verified. More likely is the Mandela effect. Were they supposed to be? Surgeons wear them. They can't be useless can they? It doesn't need to be an ultimatum. Something is better than nothing suffices here. A blindfold is a hazard, not a safety measure. What people need to do is open their ears. Not close them over emotional ideology. The reason we were told not to wear masks was due to shortages. I don't want to engage in the absurd analogies. 3 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted February 27, 2022 #395 Share Posted February 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said: Chicken Little. Sweet and Sour Duck. Its all one. You know, trying to make a joke out of a self deprecating tag is an automatic failure. Anyway, enjoy your fear porn fantasies. 1 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted February 27, 2022 #396 Share Posted February 27, 2022 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Golden Duck said: You know, trying to make a joke out of a self deprecating tag is an automatic failure. Anyway, enjoy your fear porn fantasies. Ok Ducky.. So, UN Agenda 2021 - 2030 is essentially a depopulation, total control ideal. No joke @Golden Duck Edited February 27, 2022 by Crazy Horse 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted March 1, 2022 #397 Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 2/27/2022 at 6:24 PM, Crazy Horse said: Ok Ducky.. So, UN Agenda 2021 - 2030 is essentially a depopulation, total control ideal. No joke @Golden Duck Even if that were true, posting like yours would justify it. You have reached the ultimate heights of paranoia. Well done. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted March 1, 2022 #398 Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 2/27/2022 at 6:24 PM, Crazy Horse said: Ok Ducky.. So, UN Agenda 2021 - 2030 is essentially a depopulation, total control ideal. No joke @Golden Duck Well your one sentence description deconstriction is certainly adequate to define a problem in a way that can't be solved. I suppose it is super dooper secret, too. I guess there's nothing left to do other than just accept the sky is falling. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted March 1, 2022 #399 Share Posted March 1, 2022 6 hours ago, psyche101 said: Even if that were true, posting like yours would justify it. You have reached the ultimate heights of paranoia. Well done. Spoiler alert. GOD wins. No need for paranoia, just an inner peace and tranquillity for my Beloved. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted March 1, 2022 #400 Share Posted March 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Golden Duck said: Well your one sentence description deconstriction is certainly adequate to define a problem in a way that can't be solved. I suppose it is super dooper secret, too. I guess there's nothing left to do other than just accept the sky is falling. It can be solved very easily.. There are perhaps 7.89 billion good folks, and a relatively small number of psychotic, demented, insane ignorant demons running the show.. The good folks just have to say no. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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