Horta Posted January 25, 2022 #201 Share Posted January 25, 2022 On 1/20/2022 at 8:42 AM, ChrLzs said: From my personal viewpoint (I have health issues), I'm not concerned about catching Covid per se - it is what follows. Here in Oz we were able to largely control the earlier variants, but Omicron is now becoming widespread. But we're pretty much letting that happen - it is a choice we've made on the basis of our now high vaccination rate, and that Omicron is way more infectious but nowhere near as lethal (especially if you are vaxed). If you look at the *results* of what is happening here, the rate of people requiring IC is currently about 20 or more times less for those who are fully vaccinated (like me and about 80% of Oz). So the new variant is more like the Flu than the original Covid variants. The US has a significantly lower vaccination rate (63%)~... If many more people still get infected BUT the vaccinations then save them from a hospital visit or worse, isn't that a much better outcome? So whether we're talking masks or vaccinations or whatever, each and every aspect must be considered and declared. From my personal view I was fit and strong as a (somewhat old) horse before vaccination. So I have sympathy for those who were impacted to much much greater degree and the underwhelming experience gives me the impression no one knows how great this problem is (or cares, strangely). We seem to have been sold a "safe and effective" narrative, from the last people on earth we should ever accept such a thing from (Pharmaceutical Companies), and systematically ignore what is likely to be a very different reality. As to whether there really is a net benefit from these particular vaccines, that isn't at all as clear as you believe. Some of the "non covid" mortality studies are worse and seem to be presented as simple propaganda IMO. Unfortunately writing about such things has people who a short while ago were welcome contributors to journals, to now being banned from preprint servers. Unfortunately the word "vaccine" makes an entire subject beyond criticism. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/357778435_Official_mortality_data_for_England_suggest_systematic_miscategorisation_of_vaccine_status_and_uncertain_effectiveness_of_Covid-19_vaccination 3 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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