+Sherapy Posted January 15, 2022 #51 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, XenoFish said: Doubt it, but I could be wrong. You are far kinder than I, It saddens me to read these kind of posts, yet, I admire your grace and honesty. Edited January 15, 2022 by Sherapy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted January 15, 2022 #52 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Through the limited geneology research (my fathers side) I come from basically magic stock. Some of my long dead relatives practiced folk magic. Think I've got a shaman or two as well. Which might explain my interest in the stuff. According to a few of the older family members I'm supposed to more incline to such things as in terms of 'power'. Though I doubt it. Still, I've got some strange luck at times. Survived finacial ruin, wife survived cancer. Even at the worst of things I've started to really noticed that I've got some 'horse shoes' going on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted January 15, 2022 #53 Share Posted January 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sherapy said: You are far kinder than I, It saddens me to read these kind of posts, yet, I admire your grace and honesty. I've had a thread dedicated to hating me. His comment is nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted January 15, 2022 #54 Share Posted January 15, 2022 https://uncg-lis.libguides.com/appalachianwitchcraft https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/southern-appalachia-folk-healers-granny-women-neighbor-ladies There's even a thread about this stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted January 15, 2022 #55 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 minute ago, XenoFish said: I've had a thread dedicated to hating me. His comment is nothing. I understand, a thread just got shut down due to the same kind of thing towards me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted January 15, 2022 #56 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Sherapy said: I understand, a thread just got shut down due to the same kind of thing towards me. Language is a form of sorcery. The thing is to not let the words sink in. This is the essence of all magic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted January 15, 2022 #57 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, XenoFish said: Language is a form of sorcery. The thing is to not let the words sink in. This is the essence of all magic. Indeed, my approach is not to take it personal too and then let it go. So back on topic, we have given enough attention to a problem that isn’t about us, Edited January 15, 2022 by Sherapy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted January 15, 2022 #58 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Sherapy said: So back on topic, we have given enough attention to a problem that isn’t about us, Witchcraft is typically seen as black magick. The thing about magic is that it isn't anything. Curses, hexes, and binding work can be done by the same person who might bless them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted January 15, 2022 #59 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, XenoFish said: Through the limited geneology research (my fathers side) I come from basically magic stock. Some of my long dead relatives practiced folk magic. Think I've got a shaman or two as well. Which might explain my interest in the stuff. According to a few of the older family members I'm supposed to more incline to such things as in terms of 'power'. Though I doubt it. Still, I've got some strange luck at times. Survived finacial ruin, wife survived cancer. Even at the worst of things I've started to really noticed that I've got some 'horse shoes' going on. How interesting to find out your relatives practiced folk magic. Edited January 15, 2022 by Sherapy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted January 15, 2022 #60 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Rashore posted this in a thread. Kind of cleared up a few of the things I've seen as a kid. Reclaiming Witchcraft 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted January 15, 2022 #61 Share Posted January 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, XenoFish said: Rashore posted this in a thread. Kind of cleared up a few of the things I've seen as a kid. Reclaiming Witchcraft I will watch it later, I find the subject interesting too, but know very little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted January 15, 2022 #62 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Just now, Sherapy said: but know very little. It come down to the power of belief. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted January 15, 2022 #63 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) On 1/14/2022 at 6:53 AM, Opus Magnus said: No, people do. Apparently you have too low of an IQ to actually be able to read. Even in what pagan books we are able to preserve witches are set aside from other forms of magic. Witches are typically seen as malicious even if they have a place in society, they are usually seen as abusing their role. Edited January 15, 2022 by Sherapy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted January 15, 2022 #64 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 minute ago, XenoFish said: It come down to the power of belief. Awww makes sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted January 15, 2022 #65 Share Posted January 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, Sherapy said: Awww makes sense. My dad told me how my cherokee great grandma could talk the fire out of a burn. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted January 15, 2022 #66 Share Posted January 15, 2022 32 minutes ago, XenoFish said: Witchcraft is typically seen as black magick. The thing about magic is that it isn't anything. Curses, hexes, and binding work can be done by the same person who might bless them. Right, it is not the energy, but the user's intent that determines whether it is destructive or helpful. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted January 15, 2022 #67 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said: Right, it is not the energy, but the user's intent that determines whether it is destructive or helpful. One thing is the environment as well. If the practicioner is in a superstitious culture they have more 'power'. Meaning if they have a reputation for the craft. Others might admire/fear them. The power of belief really makes this stuff work. Though sometimes I do wonder. Edited January 15, 2022 by XenoFish 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted January 15, 2022 #68 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) Around 2013 when my life went to hell. I did a few spell. All of which came to pass. I got the money I need to take care of the problems I had. The results of things that were good enough (best that could be). Things like that. Things went far better than they could have. Even did a working for my wife to be well. Took time, doctor visits and treatments, but she's doing well. So there might be something more to it, but I won't came there is. Edited January 15, 2022 by XenoFish spelling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted January 15, 2022 #69 Share Posted January 15, 2022 The persecution of European witches and those women who befriended them started quite early: Tha faemnan, the gewuniath onfon gealdorcraeftigan and scinlaecan and wiccan, ne laet thu tha libban. Women who are accustomed to receiving enchanters and sorceresses and witches, do not let them live! From the Laws of Ælfred, ca. 890 ce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted January 15, 2022 #70 Share Posted January 15, 2022 7 hours ago, Opus Magnus said: That's fine because I don't feel any guilt. I lost all my guilt in full confession to Jesus Christ. And what's that supposed to be? Whatever 'evil' you did, it would be an example of showing balls to ask for forgiveness from your 'victims'. You should have asked for forgiveness from the OT god instead. He would have given you forgiveness in a jiffy: in his name and by his command many millions were killed. Your 'sins' were most likely minor to what this god, YOUR god, did. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opus Magnus Posted January 15, 2022 #71 Share Posted January 15, 2022 28 minutes ago, Abramelin said: And what's that supposed to be? Whatever 'evil' you did, it would be an example of showing balls to ask for forgiveness from your 'victims'. You should have asked for forgiveness from the OT god instead. He would have given you forgiveness in a jiffy: in his name and by his command many millions were killed. Your 'sins' were most likely minor to what this god, YOUR god, did. As the Church of Satan would say, "I have no need for forgiveness." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted January 16, 2022 #72 Share Posted January 16, 2022 37 minutes ago, Opus Magnus said: As the Church of Satan would say, "I have no need for forgiveness." You needed it, and your god ordered massacres. But ok, He forgave you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted January 16, 2022 #73 Share Posted January 16, 2022 On 1/14/2022 at 11:19 AM, Abramelin said: My thoughts have been that it was actually Idris Shah who wrote the book, or had a very big influence on the end result. About another book: In 1960 he [Idries Shah] started “Octagon Press”, (later registered in the United Kingdom as a limited liability company at Companies House on 10 January 1972), the first title of which was “Gerald Gardner: Witch”, the biography of the UK’s leading figure in the British witchcraft revival of the 1950s. The book has been attributed to Jack L. Bracelin, the High Priest of Gardner’s Bricket Wood Coven in St. Albans, but it has long been known as a pseudonymous work by Shah, who it is often alleged, was acting as Gardner’s secretary at the time of writing. Philip Heselton does much to clear up this little controversy in his latest biography “Witchfather: A Life of Gerald Gardner” (Vol 2). https://www.controverscial.com/Idries Shah.htm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saru Posted January 16, 2022 #74 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Thread cleaned Nobody should be discussing or berating other members' mental health - let's stick to the topic please. Thank you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted January 16, 2022 #75 Share Posted January 16, 2022 On 1/15/2022 at 10:20 AM, XenoFish said: One thing is the environment as well. If the practicioner is in a superstitious culture they have more 'power'. Meaning if they have a reputation for the craft. Others might admire/fear them. The power of belief really makes this stuff work. Though sometimes I do wonder. Yes, I have had the belief that a curse only works if the one being cursed believes curses work. I have had several people curse me, and noticed no effect, but I have met people who will pay a curandera to remove a curse, and they will pay big money sometimes. But, if a curse is real, I think the only people who can remove it are the one who put it out there and the one it was aimed at. There is no intermediary that can help people except as a placebo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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