Grim Reaper 6 Posted January 28, 2022 #1 Share Posted January 28, 2022 The United States is discussing the deployment of American military forces to Eastern Europe with its NATO allies, a senior administration official said Monday, as President Joe Biden weighs options for responding to Russian threats against Ukraine. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has placed 8,500 troops on “heightened alert” to assist with the defense of NATO allies, Pentagon spokesman John Kirby said during a news briefing Monday. He said no deployment orders have been given. I want to reinforce that as of now, the decision has been made to put these units on higher alert and higher alert only," said Kirby. "No decisions have been made to deploy forces from the United States at this time." With Moscow massing more than 100,000 troops at its neighbor's border and no diplomatic breakthrough in sight, the West is stepping up its response amid mounting fears an invasion could be imminent. Biden participated in a roughly 90-minute video conference with European leaders Monday afternoon to discuss Russia’s military buildup on Ukraine’s borders, the White House said. NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, Polish President Andrzej Duda, French President Emmanuel Macron, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, Italian Prime Minister Mario Draghi and other leaders participated in the call. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/defense-secretary-presents-biden-options-us-response-russia-rcna13240 U.S. Puts 8,500 Troops on Alert for Possible Deployment to Europe Amid Ukraine Crisis: https://time.com/6141675/us-troops-alert-ukraine/ Pentagon says 8,500 troops placed on heightened alert amid tensions in Ukraine: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-live-pentagon-press-secretary-john-kirby-holds-a-news-briefing-as-ukraine-tensions-rise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joke_Master_Mandy Posted January 28, 2022 #2 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Welp. It's been a good run, America. I wonder which language is easier to learn, Russian or Chinese... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted January 28, 2022 #3 Share Posted January 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Joke_Master_Mandy said: Welp. It's been a good run, America. I wonder which language is easier to learn, Russian or Chinese... Russian by far. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted January 28, 2022 #4 Share Posted January 28, 2022 You have to appreciate the drama of the situation. If Putin and Biden pull us back from the brink of war, first it is exciting and then a relief. If they settle it with a phone call, nobody cares or thinks its a big deal. Cant get much mileage out of that. Putin can save the Russian people from genocide and get a few concessions from NATO too maybe. A big win for him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted January 28, 2022 Author #5 Share Posted January 28, 2022 16 minutes ago, Tatetopa said: You have to appreciate the drama of the situation. If Putin and Biden pull us back from the brink of war, first it is exciting and then a relief. If they settle it with a phone call, nobody cares or thinks its a big deal. Cant get much mileage out of that. Putin can save the Russian people from genocide and get a few concessions from NATO too maybe. A big win for him. I think it’s a question of Putins actions here. He has been threatening the Ukraine since 2017, and started doing this after he invaded the Crimea. Now since this problem began it’s all been in Putins favor, I mean between 2017 - 2019 NATO was effectively sidelined. But. Now the NATO alliance has been put back together, and if the Ukraine were invaded our NATO Allie’s are very concerned about who’s next. So every European Country except Germany for some reason is standing up to support the Ukraine, because they realize it’s better to fight a conflict on foreign soil, than on their own soil. Just in my opinion, I don’t believe Putin has any plans to back down, I also don’t think he is posturing either. I believe he was intent on an invasion. However, now he is going to have to decide if it will be worth it or not which hopefully may prevent an invasion. If not I believe NATO will fight, and I don’t think Putin will like what he gets. Because our European Allie’s will be fighting for their lives, because they are afraid of whose next, and because of that they will give it all they got! Peace Tate! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted January 28, 2022 #6 Share Posted January 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Manwon Lender said: Just in my opinion, I don’t believe Putin has any plans to back down, I also don’t think he is posturing either. I believe he was intent on an invasion. However, now he is going to have to decide if it will be worth it or not which hopefully may prevent an invasion. If not I believe NATO will fight, and I don’t think Putin will like what he gets. Because our European Allie’s will be fighting for their lives, because they are afraid of whose next, and because of that they will give it all they got! We need to remember that Putin sees the Ukraine as "his", in a sense. I've said this before, but I really think Putin would rather see Ukraine reduced to rubble and ashes if it means that he could still take the territory, because either way it would have a use. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted January 28, 2022 #7 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Personally I couldn’t care less about protecting Ukraines boarder. Especially because they have abandoned our own boarder, and are letting the entirety of South America cross right over unimpeded. And it’s causing a genocide of Americans between 18-35 with all the dangerous drugs they are bringing in. From what I’ve heard it’s now suddenly the number one cause of death in that age range. But we are going to start a world war over another country’s boarder, thousands of miles away? No thanks. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opus Magnus Posted January 28, 2022 #8 Share Posted January 28, 2022 I also have thought of King Solomon's lesson in cutting the baby in half. It's as if Ukraine is just a bargaining chip. Is it worth it to risk the whole country demolished? If Russia stands down, then maybe it has more to do with Ukraine than anyone else. Unless they are willing to pave over it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted January 28, 2022 #9 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Yeah that hilarious duck, smh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted January 28, 2022 #10 Share Posted January 28, 2022 A war with Russia could end badly for everyone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSlim Posted January 28, 2022 #11 Share Posted January 28, 2022 3 hours ago, preacherman76 said: Personally I couldn’t care less about protecting Ukraines boarder. Especially because they have abandoned our own boarder, and are letting the entirety of South America cross right over unimpeded. And it’s causing a genocide of Americans between 18-35 with all the dangerous drugs they are bringing in. From what I’ve heard it’s now suddenly the number one cause of death in that age range. But we are going to start a world war over another country’s boarder, thousands of miles away? No thanks. Well then. That certainly is a post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el midgetron Posted January 28, 2022 #12 Share Posted January 28, 2022 They are going to hype this up to the boiling point and then credit Biden with defusing the situation with his keen negotiation skills, raw strength and presidency of steel. It will be the greatest day in American history. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz_Light_Year Posted January 28, 2022 #13 Share Posted January 28, 2022 17 minutes ago, el midgetron said: They are going to hype this up to the boiling point and then credit Biden with defusing the situation with his keen negotiation skills, raw strength and presidency of steel. It will be the greatest day in American history. Must of hurt terribly to type that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted January 28, 2022 #14 Share Posted January 28, 2022 51 minutes ago, el midgetron said: They are going to hype this up to the boiling point and then credit Biden with defusing the situation with his keen negotiation skills, raw strength and presidency of steel. It will be the greatest day in American history. That seems to be the way the game is played by both sides. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSlim Posted January 28, 2022 #15 Share Posted January 28, 2022 56 minutes ago, el midgetron said: They are going to hype this up to the boiling point and then credit Biden with defusing the situation with his keen negotiation skills, raw strength and presidency of steel. It will be the greatest day in American history. Look, Biden sucks, but we all know Trump would just go polish Putin's balls and fawn like a 10 year old girl at a BTS concert 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autochthon1990 Posted January 28, 2022 #16 Share Posted January 28, 2022 5 hours ago, preacherman76 said: Personally I couldn’t care less about protecting Ukraines boarder. Especially because they have abandoned our own boarder, and are letting the entirety of South America cross right over unimpeded. And it’s causing a genocide of Americans between 18-35 with all the dangerous drugs they are bringing in. From what I’ve heard it’s now suddenly the number one cause of death in that age range. But we are going to start a world war over another country’s boarder, thousands of miles away? No thanks. You do realize that drugs get in here regardless of walls and whatnot, right? The Cartel used /****ing catapults/ to get narcotics over the barriers put up during Bush II's administration. The fact of the matter is, we need to address the issues that are driving people to come here illegally and run drugs in the first place, otherwise they'll just keep on truckin' 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Xetan Posted January 28, 2022 #17 Share Posted January 28, 2022 33 minutes ago, Autochthon1990 said: The fact of the matter is, we need to address the issues that are driving people to come here illegally and run drugs in the first place, otherwise they'll just keep on truckin' How can we fix the problems of other nations without occupying them? Is it even our responsibility to do so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godnodog Posted January 28, 2022 #18 Share Posted January 28, 2022 10 hours ago, Joke_Master_Mandy said: Welp. It's been a good run, America. I wonder which language is easier to learn, Russian or Chinese... I've had some chinese lessons in college, thanks to Chinese Govt (great now I'll be a future chinese supporter suspect ), and it was not that difficult, unfortunatly I was doing classes all day and could not keep up with the rhythm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted January 28, 2022 #19 Share Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) Don `nt we get every American out of Ukraine before sending our troops in ? when Russia start attacking Ukraine? Edited January 28, 2022 by docyabut2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted January 28, 2022 #20 Share Posted January 28, 2022 7 hours ago, preacherman76 said: And it’s causing a genocide of Americans between 18-35 with all the dangerous drugs they are bringing in. From what I’ve heard it’s now suddenly the number one cause of death in that age range. Dangerous drugs? Are you sure those are not just more government lies. How do you know? Why do you want to prevent people from taking alternative drugs that save their lives? Plenty of sites on the internet will tell you how wonderful drugs are. Why do you believe medical experts that tell you they are dangerous? What makes you believe all those government stories about crack heads and crime? Those are people whose life saving drugs have been withheld by a government that wants to control everybody. Just search the internet some podcast will tell you that its a lie. You just have to search for the right sites. Why are you against personal freedom? Why do you support that much government interference into citizen's lives? What gives the government a right to tell people what to do even if it is to protect other citizens? Disgusted and impatient yet? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSlim Posted January 28, 2022 #21 Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Tatetopa said: Dangerous drugs? Are you sure those are not just more government lies. How do you know? Why do you want to prevent people from taking alternative drugs that save their lives? Plenty of sites on the internet will tell you how wonderful drugs are. Why do you believe medical experts that tell you they are dangerous? What makes you believe all those government stories about crack heads and crime? Those are people whose life saving drugs have been withheld by a government that wants to control everybody. Just search the internet some podcast will tell you that its a lie. You just have to search for the right sites. Why are you against personal freedom? Why do you support that much government interference into citizen's lives? What gives the government a right to tell people what to do even if it is to protect other citizens? Disgusted and impatient yet? Y'all know the "drugs" that are actually killing these kids come from pharmacies, right? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted January 28, 2022 #22 Share Posted January 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, HSlim said: Y'all know the "drugs" that are actually killing these kids come from pharmacies, right? You mean like the Sacklers who owned Purdue Pharma? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSlim Posted January 28, 2022 #23 Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Tatetopa said: You mean like the Sacklers who owned Purdue Pharma? Perdue, Abbott Labs, Pfizer, Novartis, Covidien, Watson and Endo.... all contributed to the creation of the current opioid epidemic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted January 28, 2022 #24 Share Posted January 28, 2022 10 hours ago, preacherman76 said: Personally I couldn’t care less about protecting Ukraines boarder. Especially because they have abandoned our own boarder, and are letting the entirety of South America cross right over unimpeded. And it’s causing a genocide of Americans between 18-35 with all the dangerous drugs they are bringing in. From what I’ve heard it’s now suddenly the number one cause of death in that age range. But we are going to start a world war over another country’s boarder, thousands of miles away? No thanks. Just do what you did last time, wait until someone attacks one of your ports. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted January 28, 2022 #25 Share Posted January 28, 2022 2 hours ago, HSlim said: Perdue, Abbott Labs, Pfizer, Novartis, Covidien, Watson and Endo.... all contributed to the creation of the current opioid epidemic. Wow, none of those guys seem like illegal immigrants smuggling drugs into the country in their backpacks. Are you trying to say the genocide of Americans through opioids that Preacherman refers to could be an inside job? But then how could we blame it on Joe Biden if it is American corporations? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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