Russia Masses Military Equipment Near Ukraine Borders: A Prologue to WWIII?

[el midgetron]

2 hours ago, Manwon Lender said:

Dude, you first bring up that Russia had the right to invade because of all the Ukrainian NeoNazis, then you bring in the crap about the Ukrainian President and transsexual issues. It has been very obvious the only reason you are posting in this thread is to push your TRUMPIAN POLITICAL AGENDA. Just like your now deposed and defunct political leader you believe and support the Russian cause in this conflict.

I have read your political posts for some time now, so please don’t say you care about the Ukrainian people. If that were true you would care about all the people dying in the conflict not just those who have supported the Russian cause or who are caught up in and forced to be in Russian occupied territory. So please at least be honest and say what you really mean, don’t try to change your True Tone or comments on the matter.

You know and I know if your fearless leader was still President all this support would not be going to the Ukraine and that’s what you against !

Dude your not FOOLING anyone!

Most of what you are claiming here isn’t based in fact. Regarding the remaining claims, despite what you seem to believe, more than one thing can be true at the same time, 

This thread is about the war in Ukraine. It is not about Trump, it is not about myself. If I can’t talk about the current controversies Zelensky is facing, then you shouldn’t be able to talk about former US presidents that have nothing to do with the war either.

I’m respectfully asking you to leave your  personal political agenda and myself out of your comments, 

[Helen of Annoy]

I've got bad news for putlerians. Russian sugar daddies won't be able to spend as much as they used to. 

 

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-polytics/3523199-ec-preparing-legal-framework-for-confiscation-of-russian-assets-in-favor-of-ukraine-von-der-leyen.html

"I think it is a matter of justice to consider this issue. We are working on the legal framework so that the assets of Russia and partly the assets of oligarchs can be used to restore Ukraine," von der Leyen said.

...

She noted that the international Ukraine Recovery Conference, which was just held in Lugano, Switzerland, was very successful, as it was able to combine many initiatives and focus them on the implementation of the main principles of the restoration of Ukraine.

...

 

As reported, the plan for the post-war recovery of Ukraine is already estimated at more than 750 billion dollars. The position of the Government of Ukraine is that the key source of Ukraine's recovery should be the confiscated assets of Russia and Russian oligarchs as it was the Russian government that started the war.

According to various estimates, Russian assets frozen as a result of Western sanctions may total from 300 to 500 billion US dollars.

[Helen of Annoy]

Some people think, when watching horrors in Ukraine: it can't happen in my country. It will never happen to me. 

It can happen anywhere. It can happen to you. 

On the brighter side, this too can happen to any traitor anywhere. Just wait for the right circumstances 

 

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3523045-sbu-nabs-traitor-who-tipped-russian-invaders-about-home-addresses-of-ukrainian-servicemen-in-vorzel.html

A traitor who gave out to the invaders home addresses of the Ukrainian military servicemen and territorial defense fighters in the village of Vorzel near Kyiv was detained following an inquiry.

The culprit was detained while trying to pass sensitive data to her Russian handler, the SBU reports, according to Ukrinform.

"Cyber experts and SBU operatives established that the traitor had been recruited by a Russian intelligence operative, who tasked her with carrying out subversive activities. She also publicly called on Ukrainians to join the ranks of the occupation troops, and justified their crimes," the report says.

The indictment against the suspect has been forwarded to court. She faces 15 years to life in prison.

Edited July 6, 2022 by Helen of Annoy
bigger font, so they don't say later they didn't see it

[bmk1245]

46 minutes ago, Helen of Annoy said:

Read this when you are sober less drunk. It's long and even worse than you might think. 

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/04/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-bond

TRUMP BRAGS ABOUT HIS DEEP AND ENDURING BOND WITH PUTIN AS RUSSIA RAPES AND MURDERS UKRAINIANS

VanityFair? Are you serious? ARE YOU SERIOUS?

But ok, show me full video of "TRUMP BRAGS ABOUT HIS DEEP AND ENDURING BOND WITH PUTIN AS RUSSIA RAPES AND MURDERS UKRAINIANS".

'Cmon, Helen, you can do better than that.

[el midgetron]

3 hours ago, bmk1245 said:

You do realize, that in 8 years Donetsk still in the same shape as was back 7/8 years ago in comparison with decimated Mariupol today?

You do realize, that in 8 years Luhansk still in the same shape as was back 7/8 years ago in comparison with decimated Severodonetsk today?

Until russia invaded Ukraine, there were just occasional exchange of fire between russian separatists and ukrainian forces.

But let me ask you: antifa/blm crowd decides that your state is independent, they seek china's protection, china responds by sending "polite men". You are sitting on the couch "OK, fair enough"...

Would you really be sitting on the couch, and doing nothing? I'm not sure 100%, but I guess you'd take action, with rifle(s)/pistol(s) doing their job...

So are you denying Dometsk and Luhansk has suffered being targeted by Ukrainian and Russian artillery? Or that 3,000 civilians had been killed prior to the invasion?

I understand that the intensity of the current Russian artillery bombardments are something that hasn’t been seen in this conflict before. But claiming Dometsk and Luhansk are no different than they were 8 years ago seems to diminish the reality of the conflict prior to the invasion.

 

Shelling has resumed in the eastern Ukrainian city of Donetsk, just hours after an intense artillery bombardment throughout the night.

An eyewitness said the overnight shelling was the worst in more than a month, lasting almost eight hours. 

It appeared to be coming from both rebel and government positions.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29975341

Russia's huge aid convoy for east Ukraine is believed to be destined primarily for Luhansk, a rebel-held industrial city under siege from government forces. 

Whatever the questions over the Kremlin's intentions with regard to the convoy, there seems to be little doubt that civilians in Luhansk are in need of aid, much more so than in Donetsk, the biggest city still under rebel control.

Home to 425,000 people in peacetime, Luhansk has seen its population dwindle to 250,000, the city council says on its website, as people flee the fighting that has raged here since mid-April. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28770179

 

[Helen of Annoy]

2 minutes ago, bmk1245 said:

VanityFair? Are you serious? ARE YOU SERIOUS?

But ok, show me full video of "TRUMP BRAGS ABOUT HIS DEEP AND ENDURING BOND WITH PUTIN AS RUSSIA RAPES AND MURDERS UKRAINIANS".

'Cmon, Helen, you can do better than that.

Read the ****ing article and you'll see why I too was surprised what it's doing in Vanity ****ing Fair. Obviously, we both have prejudice about VanityFair, that are not justified anymore. 

After all, VanityFair can get it, but you can't? Who's ridiculous here then?  

ANYWAY. 

Everything else you say I agree with, I'm so glad to have you in this thread, but bring up that divisive sack of **** one more time and I swear to gods I'm going to fly on my broom up there to Lithuania and trash Trump out of you with that same broom.

I'll have to walk home, but it doesn't matter. I can still hitchhike. By the time they realize my true age, I'm in the car, tee-hee. 

 

 

 

[+Nuclear Wessel]

5 minutes ago, el midgetron said:

Or that 3,000 civilians had been killed prior to the invasion?

How many of those were caused by Ukraine, though?

[+Nuclear Wessel]

49 minutes ago, Helen of Annoy said:

Oh, yes... and it's getting better with each day... 

 

 

Lmao it looks like a recycling truck

[Helen of Annoy]

Behold the invincible Russia's most advanced technology... they're protecting Crimean bridge with smoke and mirrors. Literally. 

The other day they smoked the place up and caused a traffic accident on the bridge. 

Now they added some mirrors. That will certainly confuse any dirigible pilot or whatever they expect will attack it.  

 

[+Hammerclaw]

The Russians are disconcerted by the lack of significant pushback in Donbas and certain continuing tactical deployments northwest of Kherson Oblast, potentially indicative of an offensive to push through Kherson itself and threaten Crimea. The Crimean Bridge is the Achilles Heel, which, if eliminated, would render the Russian position in Crimea, untenable. So, Russia has done her usual nuclear saber rattling over the prospect. Nowhere, along the entire front, is Russia more acutely vulnerable than in Crimea, the only place where their forces can be cut off.

Edited July 6, 2022 by Hammerclaw

[odas]

1 hour ago, Nuclear Wessel said:

Lmao it looks like a recycling truck

We call it a garbage truck. Mostly because of the freight they are hauling which fits the sight on the picture completely.

[+Nuclear Wessel]

20 minutes ago, odas said:

We call it a garbage truck. Mostly because of the freight they are hauling which fits the sight on the picture completely.

Here we have two types - garbage, and recycling. The green truck that comes around takes all of our green-bin (composte) waste and the regular truck takes everything else. But yeah, either way they're still waste.

[el midgetron]

2 hours ago, Nuclear Wessel said:

How many of those were caused by Ukraine, though?

I provided sources saying civilian casualties were being caused by both sides. Without evidence to the contrary, 50%.

[Myles]

3 hours ago, Helen of Annoy said:

 

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As reported, the plan for the post-war recovery of Ukraine is already estimated at more than 750 billion dollars. The position of the Government of Ukraine is that the key source of Ukraine's recovery should be the confiscated assets of Russia and p as it was the Russian government that started the war.

According to various estimates, Russian assets frozen as a result of Western sanctions may total from 300 to 500 billion US dollars.

Are the oligarchs private citizens/companies.    I'm not sure how good it is to take their money for the actions on Putin.  

[Myles]

3 hours ago, Helen of Annoy said:

Some people think, when watching horrors in Ukraine: it can't happen in my country. It will never happen to me. 

It can happen anywhere. It can happen to you. 

 

I guess it is good that there are so many with guns in the USA.   

[+Hammerclaw]

4 hours ago, Nuclear Wessel said:

Russia’s parliament passes sweeping wartime economic controls

Russia’s parliament has rushed through two bills imposing strict controls on the economy, requiring businesses to supply goods to the armed forces and obliging employees at some firms to work overtime.

Once signed into law by President Vladimir Putin, the bills will allow the government to introduce “special economic measures” during what the Kremlin calls its “special military operation” in Ukraine.

Source: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/7/6/ukraine-russia-live-news-moscow-takes-no-breaks-says-zelenskyy-liveblog

They don't know how lucky they are, boy, back in the USSR.....

[Duke Wellington]

4 hours ago, Nuclear Wessel said:

Russia’s parliament passes sweeping wartime economic controls

Russia’s parliament has rushed through two bills imposing strict controls on the economy, requiring businesses to supply goods to the armed forces and obliging employees at some firms to work overtime.

Once signed into law by President Vladimir Putin, the bills will allow the government to introduce “special economic measures” during what the Kremlin calls its “special military operation” in Ukraine.

Source: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/7/6/ukraine-russia-live-news-moscow-takes-no-breaks-says-zelenskyy-liveblog

Sounds like he is going for it.

Yeehar!

[Duke Wellington]

3 hours ago, Helen of Annoy said:

Some people think, when watching horrors in Ukraine: it can't happen in my country. It will never happen to me. 

It can happen anywhere. It can happen to you. 

On the brighter side, this too can happen to any traitor anywhere. Just wait for the right circumstances 

 

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3523045-sbu-nabs-traitor-who-tipped-russian-invaders-about-home-addresses-of-ukrainian-servicemen-in-vorzel.html

A traitor who gave out to the invaders home addresses of the Ukrainian military servicemen and territorial defense fighters in the village of Vorzel near Kyiv was detained following an inquiry.

The culprit was detained while trying to pass sensitive data to her Russian handler, the SBU reports, according to Ukrinform.

"Cyber experts and SBU operatives established that the traitor had been recruited by a Russian intelligence operative, who tasked her with carrying out subversive activities. She also publicly called on Ukrainians to join the ranks of the occupation troops, and justified their crimes," the report says.

The indictment against the suspect has been forwarded to court. She faces 15 years to life in prison.

Cough, it never happens to Britain.

We always win. Don`t worry Ukraine, the Angle-Saxons will save you!

[+Hammerclaw]

8 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said:

Sounds like he is going for it.

Yeehar!

Here, Kookie, this song's for you! Har, Har!

 

[Duke Wellington]

7 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said:

Here, Kookie, this song's for you! Har, Har!

 

I`m not a socialist or communist. I`m a capitalist.

[+Hammerclaw]

9 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said:

I`m not a socialist or communist. I`m a capitalist.

Sometimes you post like a Bolshevik, so you'll have to forgive people if they're mistaken.

Edited July 6, 2022 by Hammerclaw

[+Hammerclaw]

 

[godnodog]

12 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said:

I`m not a socialist or communist. I`m a capitalist.

You're a loonie 

[Grim Reaper 6]

4 hours ago, el midgetron said:

Most of what you are claiming here isn’t based in fact. Regarding the remaining claims, despite what you seem to believe, more than one thing can be true at the same time, 

This thread is about the war in Ukraine. It is not about Trump, it is not about myself. If I can’t talk about the current controversies Zelensky is facing, then you shouldn’t be able to talk about former US presidents that have nothing to do with the war either.

I’m respectfully asking you to leave your  personal political agenda and myself out of your comments, 

Respectfully I never sad or intimated that you could not talk about anything you choose to that’s in-line with the context of this thread. My main point all along is that your comments are thus far disingenuous when you say that care about the people who are dying. You have changed your talking points from Russia invaded because of Nazis, then you brought you up the topic of how the Ukrainians we’re treating transgender individuals, and now it’s about the people who are being killed by UKRAINIANS and not the Crimes Against Humanity ( Blatant Execution, Rape, and Murder of Ukrainian Civilians in Russian occupied Areas.

Respectfully so long as you continue to add your political spin to a non political thread I will respond to your comments within the bounds of forum rules. If that is to hard to deal with either put me on IGNORE ( Yet even so I will still Respond ) or stop being disingenuous and just speak honestly and to the point, but don’t hide your far right politics behind oh the bad Ukrainians are killing people, this war and sadly people are killed and that’s called collateral damage while it’s certainly horrible it can’t be avoided. The Freakin Russians are to blame on all counts of civilian death ☠️ in the  Ukraine because they started this armed conflict not the Ukrainians ☠️.

[+Nuclear Wessel]

49 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said:

Sounds like he is going for it.

Yeehar!

It's definitely not a good thing for Russia.