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Russia Masses Military Equipment Near Ukraine Borders: A Prologue to WWIII?


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russian regime media insists it was an accident. And that no planes were damaged in the accident :lol: Yeah, right, very plausible. kremlin level of plausible :lol: 

They seem determined to not admit any serious loss. (They never admitted what happened to their cruiser Moskva. They never admitted their special forces got erased at Hostomel. Etc.) 

The conclusion is that each time russia is properly hit, it withdraws. It denies, it lies, it hides, it even blames own morons for blowing own base up. 

They push harder if you are backing down and they withdraw if you hit them back.

russian officials and propagandists were claiming russia will use nukes in case russia is attacked and made it clear that in their opinion Crimea is russia, that nukes will be used if Crimea is attacked. 

SO? Where are the nukes? Flying yet? 

God, no, putin's kleptocracy is not about any ideals, none of them wants to die or be prevented from living the most luxurious life possible.  

Instead of nukes as promised, kremlin is claiming they blew up their own base. Because if they admit it was Ukraine, their reputation of imaginary superpower, their propaganda image of untouchable, unbeatable, the most advanced and crap is damaged and - this is more important - they would have to show their threats were not empty. 

The moral of the story is that the West must support Ukraine and help Ukraine crush russian illegal and genocidal aggression, because it is illegal and genocidal - and while doing so the West doesn't have to be afraid of an "escalation". putin is escalating when you don't resist his hordes. He folds under real pressure.  

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26 minutes ago, Helen of Annoy said:

russian regime media insists it was an accident. And that no planes were damaged in the accident :lol: Yeah, right, very plausible. kremlin level of plausible :lol: 

They seem determined to not admit any serious loss. (They never admitted what happened to their cruiser Moskva. They never admitted their special forces got erased at Hostomel. Etc.) 

The conclusion is that each time russia is properly hit, it withdraws. It denies, it lies, it hides, it even blames own morons for blowing own base up. 

They push harder if you are backing down and they withdraw if you hit them back.

russian officials and propagandists were claiming russia will use nukes in case russia is attacked and made it clear that in their opinion Crimea is russia, that nukes will be used if Crimea is attacked. 

SO? Where are the nukes? Flying yet? 

God, no, putin's kleptocracy is not about any ideals, none of them wants to die or be prevented from living the most luxurious life possible.  

Instead of nukes as promised, kremlin is claiming they blew up their own base. Because if they admit it was Ukraine, their reputation of imaginary superpower, their propaganda image of untouchable, unbeatable, the most advanced and crap is damaged and - this is more important - they would have to show their threats were not empty. 

The moral of the story is that the West must support Ukraine and help Ukraine crush russian illegal and genocidal aggression, because it is illegal and genocidal - and while doing so the West doesn't have to be afraid of an "escalation". putin is escalating when you don't resist his hordes. He folds under real pressure.  

Someone is enjoying herself lmao.

Unfortunately the airfield is too far away to have been hit by the MLRS given to them.

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Update from Ukraine | Boom! They lost military airfield!! Yes!!:yes:

 

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5 hours ago, Cookie Monster said:

They wont, they have been trained from birth to hate America and its empire (we and Ukraine are its empire).

I expect them to be fanatical, expect bloody hand to hand combat.

There will be bloody hand to hand combat as they climb over each other to escape to the West and freedom. As I said, you plonk a load of North Koreans in Unkraine and tell them to advance West, they'll dump their equipment and you won't see them for dust! It would be the quickest advance in history, they would be in France before you could blink. Kim Jong-un is crazy, but not so crazy as to set up an escape route for his army.

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2 hours ago, Cookie Monster said:

Someone is enjoying herself lmao.

Unfortunately the airfield is too far away to have been hit by the MLRS given to them.

So, who controls Mykolaiv and Odessa?

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1 hour ago, Cookie Monster said:

Someone is enjoying herself lmao.

Unfortunately the airfield is too far away to have been hit by the MLRS given to them.

Do you really think that other countries in Europe Like Poland for instance has not given the Ukrainians 

This is what you should be worried about, because Russia and China are both currently threating Nuclear war again I think maybe you should start looking for a Bunker!!:yes:

The Reality Of What HIMARS Rocket Artillery Systems Can And Can’t Do For Ukraine (Updated): The Reality Of What HIMARS Rocket Artillery Systems Can And Can't Do For Ukraine (Updated) (thedrive.com)

There are currently countries in Europe who have this Missile for their HIMARS, there is nothing stopping them from transferring them to the Ukrainian Military. By doing that it gives the United States Plausible Deniability, and while the US can act mad at that country it was actually their plan along, that is how the big boys play Chess!!!:yes:

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Countries with the most Nuclear Attack Missile Submarines 

 

Russia’s Ukraine War Could End in Disaster: DEFCON GLOBAL WARNING SYSTEM: 

A core point of disagreement between these two camps is the perceived likelihood of nuclear escalation. Whereas those arguing for limited objectives tend to worry about the potential for escalation across the nuclear threshold, analysts in favor of increased support for Ukraine view the costs of concessions as more dangerous than confrontation and tend to view the likelihood of escalation as minimal. Nuclear Risks: Russia’s Ukraine War Could End in Disaster – The DEFCON Warning System

Radiation Reports Nuclear Fallout Warning system: This site monitors Global Radiation levels this is a great site to have access if the worst happens then you will know in advance when Radiactive Fallout is going to hit your location: Radiation Reports – The DEFCON Warning System 

 

Russia threatens to unleash NUKES on Britain & US after battle with Ukraine over ‘out of control’ nuclear mega-plant:

Putin has boasted that his new Sarmat and Tsirkon nuclear missiles are “unstoppable” by Western defences amid repeated threats to annihilate Europe and the US. 

“Millions of Europeans…are terrified by winter coming.It will be like a nuclear winter. An apocalypse before our eyes. We need to tell Ukraine and its supporting countries - Britain and America foremost…and make it clear. If Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant is damaged and a disaster occurs, two missiles will immediately strike your decision-making centres. One in Washington, the other in London Nuclear ones. And that’s it….there won't be any more talk.”Russia threatens to unleash NUKES on Britain & US after battle with Ukraine over 'out of control' nuclear mega-plant | The Sun 

 

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If Ukraine is striking Russian positions in Crimea, and or if they are ever able to actually push all Russian forces back out of Ukraine, the idea that Putin would not use a tactical nuke is kind of ridiculous.  IMO, that is a risk the world really doesn't need to take.  It's one thing to punch him in the mouth and loosen up a few of his teeth but it's another, entirely, to try to beat him down in front of his people.  Does he deserve it?  ABSOLUTLEY! But there needs to be some restraint and a nod toward the realities on the ground.  His generals may not be willing to launch ICBMs but they'd probably not shy away from using 1-5 KT devices on the battlefield in Ukraine as a way of saving face.

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Just now, and-then said:

If Ukraine is striking Russian positions in Crimea, and or if they are ever able to actually push all Russian forces back out of Ukraine, the idea that Putin would not use a tactical nuke is kind of ridiculous.  IMO, that is a risk the world really doesn't need to take.  It's one thing to punch him in the mouth and loosen up a few of his teeth but it's another, entirely, to try to beat him down in front of his people.  Does he deserve it?  ABSOLUTLEY! But there needs to be some restraint and a nod toward the realities on the ground.  His generals may not be willing to launch ICBMs but they'd probably not shy away from using 1-5 KT devices on the battlefield in Ukraine as a way of saving face.

More than likely Putin would be removed from power before tactical nuclear weapons would be used.  

A Russian oligarch or Russian general who has enough sway and isnt happy with the way things are going could gain a lot of good will and potential concessions from the west if they would offer Putin up for trial or kill him, claim they stopped nuclear weapons from being used, and pulled Russian troops back to the borders.  They might even be able spin Putin as being a mad man who was destroying Russia to the Russian population.

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Russian oil transit halted via Druzhba pipeline to central Europe
Russia’s Transneft says oil flows halted to the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary over payment issue.

“On August 4, the delivery of Russian oil via the territory of Ukraine was halted,” the oil pipeline operator said in a statement on Tuesday.

The company said the Ukrainian side stopped the oil transport “due to not receiving funds for these services”.

However, deliveries to Poland and Germany via Belarus were continuing “as usual”, Transneft added.

Sourcehttps://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/8/9/russian-oil-transit-via-ukraine-halted-due-to-western-sanctions

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Russia-Ukraine live updates: Pentagon announces new $1 billion military aid package

The Pentagon has announced a new $1 billion military aid package for Ukraine.

The package includes more missiles for the HIMARS advanced rocket systems; 1,000 more Javelin anti-tank weapons; 55,000 rounds of artillery for 155mm howitzers; and armored vehicles.

Source: https://abcnews.go.com/International/live-updates/russia-ukraine/?id=85460300#88104802

 

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Zelensky: This Russian war on Ukraine must end with liberation of Crimea

President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine has reiterated the fact that Crimea is part of Ukraine, and that the country will never leave it behind. The Russian war, which started with Crimea, must end with its liberation, the leader stressed.

Sourcehttps://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3547073-president-this-russian-war-on-ukraine-must-end-with-liberation-of-crimea.html

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5 hours ago, DarkHunter said:

More than likely Putin would be removed from power before tactical nuclear weapons would be used.  

A Russian oligarch or Russian general who has enough sway and isnt happy with the way things are going could gain a lot of good will and potential concessions from the west if they would offer Putin up for trial or kill him, claim they stopped nuclear weapons from being used, and pulled Russian troops back to the borders.  They might even be able spin Putin as being a mad man who was destroying Russia to the Russian population.

It would be interesting to see how Putin's removal from power would actually play out, as it has always been my understanding that even if Putin were removed, his successor(s) could potentially be even worse. His influence/regime runs pretty deep.

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11 hours ago, Helen of Annoy said:

 

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They thought the binoculars were defective, but it was actually a defective Medvedev.  What a pity that his democratic warranty has been voided and it is impossible to get a decent replacement.

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1 minute ago, Nuclear Wessel said:

It would be interesting to see how Putin's removal from power would actually play out, as it has always been my understanding that even if Putin were removed, his successor(s) could potentially be even worse. His influence/regime runs pretty deep.

If a pre-approved by Putin or a Putin appointed successor replaces Putin then they can very well could be worse and they probably would be as they would almost certainly feel they would need to assert their authority to secure their position.

While his influence/regime does run deep there are still oligarchs and generals that are not particularly big fans of Putin due to past personal slights and what they view as unfair deals and agreements. 

Its arguably why a coup against Putin is probably the best thing that could happen for the world.  A successful coup would give the Russian oligarchs and military not only a way out of the war but a way of saving face as they could easily claim Putin went insane and was the cause of the failed invasion and the state that Russia finds itself in.  I cant imagine the west not rewarding the new Russian government if they would end hostilities and pull back their troops which would not only give them legitimacy but secure their position among the Russian people by improving the Russian economy.

One thing that gets overlooked a lot is that Putin only began aggressive territorial expansion and promoting extreme Russian nationalism once, due to the deep corruption in Russia, he could no longer grow the Russian economy and increase the standard of living as he did when he first came to power.  This invasion of Ukraine only came after the Russian government passed extremely unpopular pension reform and protests against the government for the poor state of the economy was growing in number and moving from towns to cities and heading from eastern and central Russia to western Russia.

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2 minutes ago, DarkHunter said:

If a pre-approved by Putin or a Putin appointed successor replaces Putin then they can very well could be worse and they probably would be as they would almost certainly feel they would need to assert their authority to secure their position.

While his influence/regime does run deep there are still oligarchs and generals that are not particularly big fans of Putin due to past personal slights and what they view as unfair deals and agreements. 

Its arguably why a coup against Putin is probably the best thing that could happen for the world.  A successful coup would give the Russian oligarchs and military not only a way out of the war but a way of saving face as they could easily claim Putin went insane and was the cause of the failed invasion and the state that Russia finds itself in.  I cant imagine the west not rewarding the new Russian government if they would end hostilities and pull back their troops which would not only give them legitimacy but secure their position among the Russian people by improving the Russian economy.

One thing that gets overlooked a lot is that Putin only began aggressive territorial expansion and promoting extreme Russian nationalism once, due to the deep corruption in Russia, he could no longer grow the Russian economy and increase the standard of living as he did when he first came to power.  This invasion of Ukraine only came after the Russian government passed extremely unpopular pension reform and protests against the government for the poor state of the economy was growing in number and moving from towns to cities and heading from eastern and central Russia to western Russia.

A coup definitely would be the best thing that could happen for the world - the problem exists in how we would get there.

I found an article that you might be interested in: https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/03/23/putin-coup-russian-regime/

It goes into some detail about how Putin has made the attempt to actually coup-proof his regime since before his inauguration in 2000. There is a lot of stuff in there you probably already know about, but you might find some interesting info in there, as well.

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Azov Battalion - History & Symbol

Apr Apr 21, 2022 The Ukrainian Army's Azov Battalion is controversial due to its use of symbols associated with the Waffen-SS. In this video, we will examine the unit's history and what those symbols mean., 2022 The Ukrainian Army's Azov Battalion is controversial due to its use of symbols associated with the Waffen-SS. In this video, we will examine the unit's history and what those symbols mean.

 

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@TrelaneHey partner I was going through some my personal photos today and I though you may appreciated this. This a Russian 152mm Howitzer that had been abandoned after the cease fire in Iraq in March of 1991, I was asked to go and disable / destroy any Iraqi equipment that was still in our operational area, So I blew up the gun tube using 1 pound of C-4 which I wrapped in Det Cord Pigtailed and attacked a M81 or M4 igniter, the photos of the C4 and the Igniter below I down loaded so any one reading this will understand, what those items are. I also opened up the breech after I blew up the gun tube, and tossed two Thermite Granada's inside which basically welded the breech closed.

It was one hell of an early 4th of July man, this was the first of 15 piece of Iraqi equipment that day!!

Take care Trelane!!:tu:

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The ammunition container below says in English made in Amon Jordan, I blew that crap up last I bet the Iraqis just let that crap in the dessert and let the sand cover it up!!:D

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Pentagon confirms anti-radiation missile delivery to Ukraine:

The latest assistance package includes anti-radar missiles for Ukrainian aircraft to target Russian radar systems, Under Secretary of Defense for Policy Colin Kahl told reporters on Monday. Colin Kahl said at a press briefing that the US had sent “a number” of the missiles without specifying how many the US has provided or when they were sent. Kahl did not explicitly say what type of anti-radiation missile was sent. The AGM-88 HARM is an air-to-surface passive sensor missile designed to seek and destroy enemy radar-equipped air defense systems. 

Pentagon confirms anti-radiation missile delivery to Ukraine (defence-blog.com)

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Russia fires ‘unstoppable’ hypersonic missiles at Ukrainian military: 

Ukraine’s Air Force said Monday that the Russian Air Force used an air-launched Kinzhal hypersonic ballistic missile to strike military facilities in the Vinnytsia region. The Kh-47M “Kinzhal” or “Dagger” missile can be conventionally or nuclear-armed. It has a strike range of more than 2,000km. Hypersonic missiles are weapons designed to fly at speeds greater than five times the speed of sound, or Mach 5, which is about 3,800 mph (6,100 kph). Their speed and ability to maneuver themselves to a target makes them extremely difficult to track and shoot down.

Russia fires ‘unstoppable’ hypersonic missiles at Ukrainian military (defence-blog.com)

 
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Russia fires ‘unstoppable’ hypersonic missiles at Ukrainian military: 

Ukraine’s Air Force said Monday that the Russian Air Force used an air-launched Kinzhal hypersonic ballistic missile to strike military facilities in the Vinnytsia region. The Kh-47M “Kinzhal” or “Dagger” missile can be conventionally or nuclear-armed. It has a strike range of more than 2,000km. Hypersonic missiles are weapons designed to fly at speeds greater than five times the speed of sound, or Mach 5, which is about 3,800 mph (6,100 kph). Their speed and ability to maneuver themselves to a target makes them extremely difficult to track and shoot down.

Russia fires ‘unstoppable’ hypersonic missiles at Ukrainian military (defence-blog.com)

 

The frightening part should be on Russia, they can't even stop himars

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Putin issues warning to West as Russia test launches ICBM: This New ICBM tested by the Rusk has 10 reentry vehicles and it has range of approximately 6500 miles! This is the largest and most powerful ICBM currently built by any Nation in the World today. The Satan II certainly does have one advantage than any other ICBM, This ICBM is capable of being fired over either the North or South Poles to reach targets in the United States.

However all hope is certainly not lost, because the days when the Silo or Mobile Launch’s were the primary delivery system are no longer the primary Nuclear Launch Platform! Today Submarine’s are the primary launch platform and with current technologies today the Submarine’s currently in US Inventory are untraceable until it to late!

Russia’s new strategic nuclear weapons: a technical analysis and assessment: 

Russia announced on 20 April 2022 that its Strategic Rocket Forces (RVSN) had conducted the first test-launch of the RS-28 Sarmat (RS-SS-X-29), an under-development three-stage liquid-fuelled intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM). Following the test, Russian media provided rare insights about Sarmat and the Avangard hypersonic boost-glide vehicle, the weapon the missile will eventually carry.

 

 

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48 minutes ago, godnodog said:

The frightening part should be on Russia, they can't even stop himars

Yes that’s true, but in air to air Combat the Rusk Weapons system is pretty dam good, but the Anti-Radiation missile we just supplied the Ukraine with will come close to narrowing the field!:tu:

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Senior Commander of Putin's Elite Special Forces Killed in Ukraine: Report:

Lieutenant Colonel Nikolay Gorban, 36, head of the 4th Department of the Special Operations Department of Russia's Federal Security Service, was reportedly killed "somewhere in Ukraine on August 2," InformNapalm reporter Anton Pavlushko said in a Sunday. Gorban's death would reportedly be the 99th of a Russian colonel or lieutenant colonel during the Russia-Ukraine war. The 98th such death, according to The Mirror, was Colonel Vasily Kleshchenko, an army aviation commander who headed the 344th combat use and retraining center for elite helicopter pilots and snipers.   https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/senior-commander-of-putins-elite-special-forces-killed-in-ukraine-report/ar-AA10rRVx

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https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-misinformation-european-union-government-and-politics-e5a1330e834fde428aab599b5c423530

After Russia invaded Ukraine last February, the European Union moved to block RT and Sputnik, two of the Kremlin’s top channels for spreading propaganda and misinformation about the war.

Nearly six months later, the number of sites pushing that same content has exploded as Russia found ways to evade the ban. They’ve rebranded their work to disguise it. 

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Some of the sites pose as independent think tanks or news outlets. ... Many were set up long before the war and were not obviously tied to the Russian government until they suddenly began parroting Kremlin talking points.

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More aggressive content moderation of social media could make it harder for Russia to circumvent the ban, according to Felix Kartte, a senior adviser at Reset, a U.K.-based nonprofit that has funded the Disinformation Situation Center’s work and is critical of social media’s role in democratic discourse.

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