Duke Wellington Posted November 20, 2022 #19976 Share Posted November 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: Why is that? Dwell on their current strategic position, how they will act to safeguard themselves, and establish themselves as a regional power. I would pay particular attention to the route oil tankers take out from the Middle East. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted November 20, 2022 #19977 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Cookie Monster said: Dwell on their current strategic position, how they will act to safeguard themselves, and establish themselves as a regional power. I would pay particular attention to the route oil tankers take out from the Middle East. Just buy your oil from your friends in Canada and the USA. Forget about Iran and Saudi Arabia. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted November 20, 2022 Author #19978 Share Posted November 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said: Dwell on their current strategic position, how they will act to safeguard themselves, and establish themselves as a regional power. I would pay particular attention to the route oil tankers take out from the Middle East. There is no need to dwell on any of them. With B.B. in charge of Israel is again taking charge it’s one thing, Bomb Bomb Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran !! That will solve all the problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchopwn Posted November 20, 2022 #19979 Share Posted November 20, 2022 8 hours ago, Occult1 said: There is no evidence of an attack in St.Peterburg and no casualties. So it does not appear that Ukraine is responsible. Ukrainian forces are also forbidden by the U.S to use HIMARS to launch attacks on Russian soil. That went out the window when Russia declared occupied Ukraine to be part of Russia. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchopwn Posted November 20, 2022 #19980 Share Posted November 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Occult1 said: Russia, Iran reach deal to make drones on Russian soil for Ukraine war: report https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-iran-reach-deal-to-make-drones-on-russian-soil-for-ukraine-war-report/ar-AA14jkOq So if I was to open a book about which regime (Russia vs Iran) was going to fall first, how would people line up? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchopwn Posted November 20, 2022 #19981 Share Posted November 20, 2022 22 hours ago, pellinore said: It is more than a nuisance. It will cause massive loss of life- 10M people without power in freezing weather is tantamount to genocide. It doesn't make sense when you consider Putin wrote a 5,000-word article, entitled “On the Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians,” which was published a year ago, in which he reiterates his frequently voiced conviction that Russians and Ukrainians are “one people,” while blaming the current collapse in bilateral ties on foreign plots and anti-Russian conspiracies. Why would he want to kill his own people? Point blank, Ukranians don't want to be Russians. After all the genocide and attacks on Ukranian culture over the past 700 years by Russia, Ukraine is asserting its right to self determination and sovereignty. As to why Putin would want to kill his own people, that's easy. It's normal for Orcish politics. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted November 20, 2022 Author #19982 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Alchopwn said: Point blank, Ukranians don't want to be Russians. After all the genocide and attacks on Ukranian culture over the past 700 years by Russia, Ukraine is asserting its right to self determination and sovereignty. As to why Putin would want to kill his own people, that's easy. It's normal for Orcish politics. I think this poster says it all, honestly and directly to the point! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted November 20, 2022 Author #19983 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Cookie Monster said: Dwell on their current strategic position, how they will act to safeguard themselves, and establish themselves as a regional power. I would pay particular attention to the route oil tankers take out from the Middle East. Your actually way behind times, the Russians have not used wheel vehicles for resupply in months. Every time they attempt to end them secret Nazi Zombies destroy the convoys and eat them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchopwn Posted November 20, 2022 #19984 Share Posted November 20, 2022 3 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: There is no need to dwell on any of them. With B.B. in charge of Israel is again taking charge it’s one thing, Bomb Bomb Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran !! That will solve all the problems At this point it is probably not necessary to bomb Iran. The Iranian people are getting ready to overthrow the theocracy all on their own. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godnodog Posted November 20, 2022 #19985 Share Posted November 20, 2022 41 minutes ago, Alchopwn said: At this point it is probably not necessary to bomb Iran. The Iranian people are getting ready to overthrow the theocracy all on their own. I wouldn't bet on it, though it would be good in theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted November 20, 2022 Author #19986 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Alchopwn said: At this point it is probably not necessary to bomb Iran. The Iranian people are getting ready to overthrow the theocracy all on their own. It would not be us Bombing Iran, if Iran gets bombed Israel will be behind it. B.B. has been very clear concerning the possibility of bombing Iran before they are capable of a test detonation. The up coming Nuclear Summit will not occur according to Israel, so personally I take what Israel says at face value what B.B. says is exactly what he mean. However, I realize that the United States or NATPP even will not be directly involved and technically they don’t need to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted November 20, 2022 #19987 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Probably because of another ruptured gas line, or cigarettes. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Occult1 Posted November 20, 2022 #19988 Share Posted November 20, 2022 (edited) Ukraine nuclear plant shelled, U.N. warns: 'You're playing with fire!' LONDON, Nov 20 (Reuters) - Ukraine's Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, which is under Russian control, was rocked by shelling on Sunday, drawing condemnation from the U.N. nuclear watchdog which said such attacks risked a major nuclear disaster. More than a dozen blasts shook Europe's biggest nuclear power plant on Saturday evening and Sunday, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) said. Moscow and Kyiv both blamed the other for the shelling of the facility. "The news from our team yesterday and this morning is extremely disturbing," said IAEA head Rafael Grossi. "Explosions occurred at the site of this major nuclear power plant, which is completely unacceptable. Whoever is behind this, it must stop immediately. As I have said many times before, you're playing with fire!" https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-ukraine-shells-zaporizhzhia-nuclear-power-plant-tass-2022-11-20/ The plant is under Russian control. Edited November 20, 2022 by Occult1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odas Posted November 20, 2022 #19989 Share Posted November 20, 2022 8 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: There is no need to dwell on any of them. With B.B. in charge of Israel is again taking charge it’s one thing, Bomb Bomb Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran !! That will solve all the problems Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Isreal. How does this sounds like? Reading some of your posts I am starting to question my own loyalties here. Obviously everyone needs to be destroyed who does not agree with the appartheied politics of Israel and the Nazi in charge Netanyahu. Do you want to bomb Iran or get rid of the ayatollahs? What are we, regular muslims, to you? Animals? Guess yes, according to your posts. I should have known better but looks like I did not learn from history. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted November 20, 2022 #19990 Share Posted November 20, 2022 18 hours ago, Occult1 said: There is no evidence of an attack in St.Peterburg and no casualties. So it does not appear that Ukraine is responsible. Ukrainian forces are also forbidden by the U.S to use HIMARS to launch attacks on Russian soil. Yeah, just like Russia claimed no attack happened in Novorossiysk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Occult1 Posted November 20, 2022 #19991 Share Posted November 20, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, odas said: Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Isreal. How does this sounds like? Reading some of your posts I am starting to question my own loyalties here. Obviously everyone needs to be destroyed who does not agree with the appartheied politics of Israel and the Nazi in charge Netanyahu. The strong military alliance between Russia and Iran (and even China to some extent) makes it impractical for the U.S. and Israel to wage war on Iran without impunity. It seems more productive for Israel to maintain good relation with Russia, retain a freedom of movement over Syria's skies and therefore keep Iran in check. Edited November 20, 2022 by Occult1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted November 20, 2022 #19992 Share Posted November 20, 2022 This is all a game to decide who will end the 21st Century the leading nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Occult1 Posted November 20, 2022 #19993 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Russia redeploying troops from Kherson to Donbas, expecting reinforcements after training in Belarus — ISW ''ISW said Russian troops are beginning to reinforce their positions with personnel from Kherson Oblast and mobilized men in the occupied territories of Luhansk, Donetsk and eastern Zaporizhzhya oblasts. Referring to the Ukrainian military’s General Staff, the analysts said there has been an increase in the number of Russian groupings in the city of Luhansk, and note that the troops are stationed in abandoned houses in Krasne and Simeykyne — about 30 kilometers southeast of the city. ISW said it believes Russia will bring in additional forces in the coming weeks, given that mobilized units of the Russian 2nd Motorized Rifle Division of the 1st Tank Army have completed training in Brest Oblast in Belarus. Russia will likely continue to use conscripts and redeployed troops to resume offensive actions in Donetsk Oblast and hold defensive positions in Luhansk Oblast.'' https://news.yahoo.com/russia-redeploying-troops-kherson-donbas-101200386.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted November 20, 2022 #19994 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Occult1 said: Russia redeploying troops from Kherson to Donbas, expecting reinforcements after training in Belarus — ISW ''ISW said Russian troops are beginning to reinforce their positions with personnel from Kherson Oblast and mobilized men in the occupied territories of Luhansk, Donetsk and eastern Zaporizhzhya oblasts. Referring to the Ukrainian military’s General Staff, the analysts said there has been an increase in the number of Russian groupings in the city of Luhansk, and note that the troops are stationed in abandoned houses in Krasne and Simeykyne — about 30 kilometers southeast of the city. ISW said it believes Russia will bring in additional forces in the coming weeks, given that mobilized units of the Russian 2nd Motorized Rifle Division of the 1st Tank Army have completed training in Brest Oblast in Belarus. Russia will likely continue to use conscripts and redeployed troops to resume offensive actions in Donetsk Oblast and hold defensive positions in Luhansk Oblast.'' https://news.yahoo.com/russia-redeploying-troops-kherson-donbas-101200386.html More meat for the grinder. Ukrainians will enjoy plenty of hamburgers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Occult1 Posted November 20, 2022 #19995 Share Posted November 20, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Nuclear Wessel said: More meat for the grinder. Ukrainians will enjoy plenty of hamburgers. With such a massive concentration of troops of and equipment in the Donbas, it's likely that Russia will be able to capture all of Donetsk region. Zelensky has already described the combat situation in Donbas as ''hell''. Edited November 20, 2022 by Occult1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted November 20, 2022 #19996 Share Posted November 20, 2022 3 hours ago, Occult1 said: Ukraine nuclear plant shelled, U.N. warns: 'You're playing with fire!' LONDON, Nov 20 (Reuters) - Ukraine's Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, which is under Russian control, was rocked by shelling on Sunday, drawing condemnation from the U.N. nuclear watchdog which said such attacks risked a major nuclear disaster. More than a dozen blasts shook Europe's biggest nuclear power plant on Saturday evening and Sunday, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) said. Moscow and Kyiv both blamed the other for the shelling of the facility. "The news from our team yesterday and this morning is extremely disturbing," said IAEA head Rafael Grossi. "Explosions occurred at the site of this major nuclear power plant, which is completely unacceptable. Whoever is behind this, it must stop immediately. As I have said many times before, you're playing with fire!" https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-ukraine-shells-zaporizhzhia-nuclear-power-plant-tass-2022-11-20/ The plant is under Russian control. Youknow what would have prevented that shelling? Russia not invading a sovereign nation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted November 20, 2022 #19997 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Cookie Monster said: This is all a game to decide who will end the 21st Century the leading nation. Current forerunner is “coachroaches”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHunter Posted November 20, 2022 #19998 Share Posted November 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Occult1 said: With such a massive concentration of troops of and equipment in the Donbas, it's likely that Russia will be able to capture all of Donetsk region. Every single prediction and statement you have made has been wrong so far so why would you suddenly be right about Russia gaining the Donbas region. You claimed the Ukranian airforce was destroyed, it wasnt. You claimed the Ukranian air defense system was destroyed, it wasnt. You claimed Russia would capture quote a long list of Ukranian cities, Russia hasnt captured them except for Mariupol after a rather prolonged siege which saw the city completely destroyed. You claimed Russia wouldn't lose Kherson, and yet they did. Given your track record it seems safe to say Russia will probably lose the Donbas region. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Red Devil Posted November 20, 2022 #19999 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Some 'civilised' Russian analysts hoping the Ukrainian population, who according to them are hellbent on the destruction of Russia, freeze and rot to death. These people are beyond brainwashed and propagandists. Putin's regime has managed to instill a hatred and belief in high circles that assimilates what the Germans had prior to WWII for anyone that didn't fit their Aryan model. Probably a large majority of the population believes their rhetoric which is why there haven't been mass protests against the war and genocide committed in Ukraine. Russian Politician Says Strikes on Ukraine Are Fueled by 'Holy Hatred' (msn.com) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Red Devil Posted November 20, 2022 #20000 Share Posted November 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Occult1 said: With such a massive concentration of troops of and equipment in the Donbas, it's likely that Russia will be able to capture all of Donetsk region. Zelensky has already described the combat situation in Donbas as ''hell''. Your posts have become more and more like wishful thinking expressions and clutching at straws. NATO and Ukranians are committed to the total defeat of Putin and Russia's total withdraw from Ukraine. Russia hasn't adavanced significantly in 5 months. The mobilisation was and is a disaster, they don't want to risk their planes being shot down so they're of little use and the boats in the Black Sea are ineffective. The only thing going for them at the moment is they're managing to get some missiles through the defenses and kill civilians. Hardly a worthy tactic to conquer territory. The criminal attempt to freeze Ukrainians through winter is going to fail as well. The EU is helping with $1 billion in aid. They're building shelters powered with generators. Poland, Slovakia and Romania are accepting more civilian refugees and there are other programs to assist the population. Russia's defeat is inevitable. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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