Occult1 Posted March 17, 2023 #25576 Share Posted March 17, 2023 2 hours ago, DarkHunter said: Someone needs to keep pointing out his factually incorrect statements Can you point to me which statements were ''factually incorrect'' ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Occult1 Posted March 17, 2023 #25577 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHunter Posted March 17, 2023 #25578 Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Occult1 said: Can you point to me which statements were ''factually incorrect'' ? The first that comes to mind was that the Ukranian airforce has been destroyed along with Ukranian air defense being destroyed. Connected to that was the claim that Russia had complete air superiority over Ukraine. There was also your whole Ukranian military and government is full of neo-Nazis that you pushed for months till you eventually dropped it. If you want I can start going through this thread and being up all of them, will take a while though since you been wrong so many times and been pushing Russian propaganda and misinformation for so long. Edited March 17, 2023 by DarkHunter 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 17, 2023 Author #25579 Share Posted March 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Occult1 said: Can you point to me which statements were ''factually incorrect'' ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmk1245 Posted March 17, 2023 #25580 Share Posted March 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Occult1 said: And where IMF gets data when russkys made data on economy secret? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godnodog Posted March 17, 2023 #25581 Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Occult1 said: and now from the World Bank or the IMF. yes it is possible they have the economy growing ps i didn’t see the video, I don’t get economic data from youtube Edited March 17, 2023 by godnodog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godnodog Posted March 17, 2023 #25582 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Poland will be sending 4 Migs to Ukraine in the next days, later others will be delivered. source is a portuguese newspaper https://www.dn.pt/internacional/polonia-envia-cacas-para-a-ucrania-e-surpreende-aliados-da-nato-16017153.html#error=login_required&state=2446a07f-36ae-4f14-8783-b137925a5572 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiff Posted March 17, 2023 #25583 Share Posted March 17, 2023 10 hours ago, Occult1 said: The U.S should strike a deal to freeze the frontlines as they currently are. Immediate ceasefire. Stop the war. That has been ruled out as a realistic possibility. Everyone already knows that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchopwn Posted March 17, 2023 #25584 Share Posted March 17, 2023 6 hours ago, Occult1 said: Yeah this is utter crap. Independent Yale studies have pointed out that the totalitarian government in Russia has been putting out false figures because like communist China, these totalitarians lie about everything to make themselves look better. The real figures are very dark indeed. Unemployment in RF is up to 22%, and hundreds of businesses have failed, and many more are shut down due to lack of foreign made materials. Sanctions are biting hard, and Russia is in big trouble, however the Ruble has been boosted artificially to do the most economic damage by destroying Russia's ability to export competitively. That too is deliberate sanctions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 17, 2023 Author #25585 Share Posted March 17, 2023 7 hours ago, Occult1 said: Can you point to me which statements were ''factually incorrect'' Russia May Be Preparing for 'Forced Evacuation' of Crimea Russian forces in the annexed Crimean peninsula could be "preparing for a possible so-called forced evacuation," according to Ukrainian media. Russian officials "visited houses and inquired about the residents" in Crimea, including whether households had children or elderly members, Ukrainian outlet Channel 24 reported, citing Eskender Bariiev, from the Crimean Tatar Resource Center non-governmental organization. The collection of this information means Russian forces "are probably preparing for a possible so-called forced evacuation," Bariiev said, in a paraphrased readout by Ukrainian outlet Ukrinform. Newsweek has reached out to Russia's defense ministry for comment via email. Crimea, to the south of mainland Ukraine, was illegally annexed by Moscow back in 2014. Ever since, Kyiv has reiterated its commitment to retaking the peninsula. Ukrainian media has previously carried reports of possible evacuations of Crimea's residents. On Thursday, Ukrainian military intelligence chief, Vadym Skibitsky, said Russia was "really preparing for defensive actions" in Crimea, adding the "infrastructure is maintained in combat readiness." "These are powerful land and aviation components that are located on the territory of Crimea," he said. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-may-be-preparing-for-forced-evacuation-of-crimea/ar-AA18KmUR?cvid=e0cd4246594a46c3ba2389bdaf8424a8&ei=24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odas Posted March 17, 2023 #25586 Share Posted March 17, 2023 2 hours ago, godnodog said: Poland will be sending 4 Migs to Ukraine in the next days, later others will be delivered. source is a portuguese newspaper https://www.dn.pt/internacional/polonia-envia-cacas-para-a-ucrania-e-surpreende-aliados-da-nato-16017153.html#error=login_required&state=2446a07f-36ae-4f14-8783-b137925a5572 Slovakia sending Ukraine its 13 Soviet MiG-29 warplanes https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6781898 Soon others will follow. This is the way, Mando! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Occult1 Posted March 17, 2023 #25587 Share Posted March 17, 2023 4 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: Russia May Be Preparing for 'Forced Evacuation' of Crimea Russian forces in the annexed Crimean peninsula could be "preparing for a possible so-called forced evacuation," according to Ukrainian media. Russian officials "visited houses and inquired about the residents" in Crimea, including whether households had children or elderly members, Ukrainian outlet Channel 24 reported, citing Eskender Bariiev, from the Crimean Tatar Resource Center non-governmental organization. The collection of this information means Russian forces "are probably preparing for a possible so-called forced evacuation," Bariiev said, in a paraphrased readout by Ukrainian outlet Ukrinform. Newsweek has reached out to Russia's defense ministry for comment via email. Crimea, to the south of mainland Ukraine, was illegally annexed by Moscow back in 2014. Ever since, Kyiv has reiterated its commitment to retaking the peninsula. Ukrainian media has previously carried reports of possible evacuations of Crimea's residents. On Thursday, Ukrainian military intelligence chief, Vadym Skibitsky, said Russia was "really preparing for defensive actions" in Crimea, adding the "infrastructure is maintained in combat readiness." "These are powerful land and aviation components that are located on the territory of Crimea," he said. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-may-be-preparing-for-forced-evacuation-of-crimea/ar-AA18KmUR?cvid=e0cd4246594a46c3ba2389bdaf8424a8&ei=24 According ''to Ukrainian media''. That's the source. The Ukrainian media is totally controlled by the Ukrainian government. Not credible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Occult1 Posted March 17, 2023 #25588 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Russia says it will destroy fighter jets sent to Ukraine ''(Reuters) - Russia said on Friday that all fighter jets supplied to Ukraine by Western nations would be destroyed after NATO members Poland and Slovakia pledged to send MiG-29 jets to Kyiv. Since Russia's invasion last year NATO countries have sent billions of dollars of military aid to Ukraine, as Kyiv asks for weapons it says are vital to fend off Russian advances. Moscow has accused the West of directly participating in the conflict through supplying weapons to Ukraine, and has warned before that NATO weapons were legitimate targets for its forces.'' https://news.yahoo.com/russia-says-destroy-fighter-jets-110012084.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 17, 2023 Author #25589 Share Posted March 17, 2023 27 minutes ago, Occult1 said: According ''to Ukrainian media''. That's the source. The Ukrainian media is totally controlled by the Ukrainian government. Not credible. Ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 17, 2023 Author #25590 Share Posted March 17, 2023 15 minutes ago, Occult1 said: Russia says it will destroy fighter jets sent to Ukraine ''(Reuters) - Russia said on Friday that all fighter jets supplied to Ukraine by Western nations would be destroyed after NATO members Poland and Slovakia pledged to send MiG-29 jets to Kyiv. Since Russia's invasion last year NATO countries have sent billions of dollars of military aid to Ukraine, as Kyiv asks for weapons it says are vital to fend off Russian advances. Moscow has accused the West of directly participating in the conflict through supplying weapons to Ukraine, and has warned before that NATO weapons were legitimate targets for its forces.'' https://news.yahoo.com/russia-says-destroy-fighter-jets-110012084.html 16 minutes ago, Occult1 said: Russia says it will destroy fighter jets sent to Ukraine ''(Reuters) - Russia said on Friday that all fighter jets supplied to Ukraine by Western nations would be destroyed after NATO members Poland and Slovakia pledged to send MiG-29 jets to Kyiv. Since Russia's invasion last year NATO countries have sent billions of dollars of military aid to Ukraine, as Kyiv asks for weapons it says are vital to fend off Russian advances. Moscow has accused the West of directly participating in the conflict through supplying weapons to Ukraine, and has warned before that NATO weapons were legitimate targets for its forces.'' https://news.yahoo.com/russia-says-destroy-fighter-jets-110012084.html Well of course they will say that, do you believe it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godnodog Posted March 17, 2023 #25591 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Warrant issued to Putin Breaking news https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/17/vladimir-putin-arrest-warrant-ukraine-war-crimes 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Occult1 Posted March 17, 2023 #25592 Share Posted March 17, 2023 28 minutes ago, godnodog said: Warrant issued to Putin Breaking news https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/17/vladimir-putin-arrest-warrant-ukraine-war-crimes What is it going to achieve? Russia does not even recognize the ICC. ''Russia signed the Rome statute, which governs the ICC, in 2000 but never ratified the agreement to become a member. It formally withheld its signature from the founding statute of the ICC in 2016, a day after the court published a report classifying the Russian annexation of Crimea as an occupation.'' https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/14/russia-says-it-does-not-recognise-hague-court-amid-reports-of-arrest-warrants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiff Posted March 17, 2023 #25593 Share Posted March 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Occult1 said: What is it going to achieve? Probably suicide, once he's nearing capture. Fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Occult1 Posted March 17, 2023 #25594 Share Posted March 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Stiff said: Probably suicide, once he's nearing capture. Fingers crossed. The problem is that no one is going to arrest him. The ICC doesn't have a police force or anything. If a foreign country captures the head of the Russian state, that's probably the start of a war. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 17, 2023 Author #25595 Share Posted March 17, 2023 11 minutes ago, godnodog said: Warrant issued to Putin Breaking news https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/17/vladimir-putin-arrest-warrant-ukraine-war-crimes This is the best news I have received this year, now it’s just a matter of time before Vladimir Putin is arrested. Below is the legal process used by the International Criminal Court. 1. Arrest Warrants a. Mr Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, born on 7 October 1952, President of the Russian Federation, b. Ms Maria Alekseyevna Lvova-Belova, born on 25 October 1984, Commissioner for Children’s Rights in the Office 2. Charges by the International Criminal Court a. War crime of unlawful deportation of population (children) and that of unlawful transfer of population (children) from occupied areas of Ukraine to the Russian Federation (under articles 8(2)(a)(vii) and 8(2)(b)(viii) of the Rome Statute) Situation in Ukraine: ICC judges issue arrest warrants against Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin and Maria Alekseyevna Lvova-Belova https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/situation-ukraine-icc-judges-issue-arrest-warrants-against-vladimir-vladimirovich-putin-and 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Occult1 Posted March 17, 2023 #25596 Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: Well of course they will say that, do you believe it? ''Before Russia's full-scale invasion in February 2022, Ukraine had several dozen MiG-29s it inherited in the 1991 collapse of the Soviet Union, but it's unclear how many remain in service after more than a year of fighting.'' https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/slovakia-jets-ukraine-russia-1.6781898 Russia destroyed pretty much all of Ukraine's token air force. I'm not sure how sending a couple more MiG-29s is going to make a difference. Flying them over territories covered by S-400s is not going to help Ukraine very much. Edited March 17, 2023 by Occult1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 17, 2023 Author #25597 Share Posted March 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, Occult1 said: What is it going to achieve? Now if Vladimir Putin leaves Russia he will be arrested and Prosecuted, so in others words as the President of the Russian he can no longer attend Global meeting, or summits. It doesn’t matter if Russia is a member of the ICC or not. 10 minutes ago, Occult1 said: Russia does not even recognize the ICC. ''Russia signed the Rome statute, which governs the ICC, in 2000 but never ratified the agreement to become a member. It formally withheld its signature from the founding statute of the ICC in 2016, a day after the court published a report classifying the Russian annexation of Crimea as an occupation.'' https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/14/russia-says-it-does-not-recognise-hague-court-amid-reports-of-arrest-warrants 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiff Posted March 17, 2023 #25598 Share Posted March 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, Occult1 said: The problem is that no one is going to arrest him. The ICC doesn't have a police force or anything. If a foreign country captures the head of the Russian state, that's probably the start of a war. We'll see. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 17, 2023 Author #25599 Share Posted March 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Occult1 said: The problem is that no one is going to arrest him. The ICC doesn't have a police force or anything. If a foreign country captures the head of the Russian state, that's probably the start of a war. What are you talking about, NATO will arrest him 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 17, 2023 Author #25600 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Just now, Stiff said: We'll see. Now, that this Warrant has been issued Vladimir Putin can not longer leave Russia, it looks like Occult1 is freaking out, 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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