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Russia Masses Military Equipment Near Ukraine Borders: A Prologue to WWIII?


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2 hours ago, Occult1 said:

Syrian mercenaries deploy to Russia en route to Ukrainian battlefields

''Hundreds of Syrian fighters are en route to join Russian forces in Ukraine, effectively returning the favour to Moscow for helping President Bashar Assad crush rebels in an 11-year civil war, according to two people monitoring the flow of mercenaries.

A first contingent of soldiers has arrived in Russia for military training before heading to Ukraine, according to a Western diplomat and a Damascus-based ally of the Syrian government. It includes at least 300 soldiers from a Syrian army division that has worked closely with Russian officers who went to Syria to support Assad during the war.

And many more could be on the way: Recruiters across Syria have been drawing up lists of thousands of interested candidates to be vetted by the Syrian security services and then passed to the Russians.''

https://bdnews24.com/world/2022/04/01/syrian-mercenaries-deploy-to-russia-en-route-to-ukrainian-battlefields

See also: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/31/world/middleeast/syrian-mercenaries-ukraine-russia.html

There are also reports that Russian has downed two Ukrainian helicopters using U.S.-made Stinger missiles in Mariupol. They were tasked to evacuate the command staff of the Azov Neo-nazi regiment.

I thought Russia was winning and happy to hold the areas that were glad to be Russian now. Why are they sending in cannon fodder?

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6 hours ago, spartan max2 said:

I don't think anyone is saying Russian soldier we're expected to be "the best of the best". Just that it was expected by most intelligent agencies that they would do alot better.

Russia has a 4x larger military and has/had a stronger economy and was more developed, invading a by land connected nation. They should of preformed better.

I know what you mean, but the reasoning behind some of what I am saying is that a benchmark has been set by MSM etc in that they have decided what the Russian plan is, and it's timetable. The fact is that they do not know, so when they say that the Russians have "failed" because Kiev and other cities have not been taken within the first week, they are just giving out propaganda, which it is clear has been soaked up like a sponge by the "sheeple" who have no idea of what is possible or reasonable having grown up with the entirely different scenarios of the two Gulf wars and "shock and awe". That there have been some failures is just part of warfare, like us loosing so many ships during the Falklands War, a far bigger failure than some Russian convoys being hit, but the war was still won. Our utter humiliation during the Battle of France in 1940 should put the current Russian minor losses into perspective as well. There's a desperate clutching at straws going on, such as the reaction to two Ukrainian helicopters taking out a fuel depot in Belgorod. But that is a drop in the ocean compared to the damage the Ukrainians have suffered. It will also have the effect of being a wake-up call to the Russian people that this is a serious war, not prime time entertainment as was the case during the Gulf wars.

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Ukraine just took out a Russian oil depot inside Russia, using attack helicopters.

Russia have admitted the attack, which is unlike them. Though I guess it can be used to justify the 130,000 new soldiers they have just conscripted.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60952125

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1 hour ago, ExpandMyMind said:

Russia have admitted the attack, which is unlike them. Though I guess it can be used to justify the 130,000 new soldiers they have just conscripted.

The 130,000 conscripted soldiers are part of Russia's biannual conscription.  Russia always conscripts roughly that many soldiers every April 1.  The conscripted soldiers wont even be leaving to start training for another couple of months.

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Dozens of towns and villages liberated in Kyiv oblast as the Russian military has abandoned that front entirely.  Fighting still going on in a few areas as a few Russian units try to perform rear guard action or as cut off and surround units try to break out and reach the border.  The entirety of Kyiv oblast should be liberated within a week.

Around Chernihiv and Sumy the retreat is not going anywhere near as well and is closer to a rout.  More Russian units are cut off or surrounded, military columns trying to fall back are frequently getting ambushed and destroyed.  

Czechia (Chech Republic) is going to deliver 56 PbV-501 IFVs to Ukraine, which will be the first armored vehicles Ukraine will be receiving as part of weapon shipments.  Australia has also announced they will be sending Bushmaster armored vehicles to Ukraine.

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Kazakhstan, which received Russian military aid about 3 months ago in suppressing protest against the government, has openly refused to aid Russia in its invasion of Ukraine and have openly declined to recognize the independence of the Donbas region and the annexation of Crimea.  

Kazakhstan is in CSTO and an open ally of Russia and they are seemingly starting to distance themselves from Russia.  

American intelligence believes that there is a growing divide between Putin and the Russian MoD/Russian military.  The American intelligence is saying that Putin believes he was lied to by the Russian MoD and his generals.  Also rumors that Putin has fired or put under house arrest multiple close advisors over this Ukraine invasion but this hasnt been confirmed yet.

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If Russia is losing, why is Zelensky ready to concede to Putin’s demands?

“In recent days, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky walked the first steps toward peace by announcing his openness to making several concessions to Russian demands. These include a commitment to Ukrainian neutrality with respect to military alliances, a rejection of any nuclear arsenal, and an acceptance of Russian control over Ukraine’s eastern regions. He even indicated a readiness to change language policies that had disadvantaged Russian speakers. Zelensky’s announcements gave the face-to-face talks convening this week in Istanbul some hope of a cease-fire.”
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/03/30/ukraine-is-ready-for-painful-concessions/

https://www.timesofisrael.com/zelensky-says-hes-willing-to-make-concessions-to-achieve-peace-without-delay/

Ukraine has policies in place that “disadvantage Russian speaking Ukrainians”? 
 

“New Language Requirement Raises Concerns in Ukraine The Law Needs Safeguards to Protect Minorities’ Language Rights”

https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/01/19/new-language-requirement-raises-concerns-ukraine#

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A raft of punishing sanctions sent Russia’s currency crashing in the weeks after the invasion of Ukraine. Barely a month later, the ruble has staged a dramatic recovery — putting pressure on the Biden administration and its allies to deploy even tougher measures to undercut the Kremlin’s ability to finance the war.

The Russian currency, which was trading at about 84 rubles to the dollar on Feb. 23, the day before President Vladimir Putin launched the attack, had plunged roughly 70 percent by March 7. As of Wednesday, the ruble was nearly back to its prewar level. That’s partly because a surge in oil and gas prices — commodities that were explicitly carved out of the initial sanctions — has boosted Russia’s energy revenue.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/31/ruble-recovery-russia-biden-sanctions-00021850

 

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56 minutes ago, el midgetron said:

If Russia is losing, why is Zelensky ready to concede to Putin’s demands?

Is that a genuine question?  Because the links you provide pretty much answer it.

And it’s not about him conceding to Russian demands.

Zelensky is trying to bring Putin to the table, who currently has locked himself in his bedroom and is refusing to come out and speak to anyone but the family dog.

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10 minutes ago, Grey Area said:

Is that a genuine question?  Because the links you provide pretty much answer it.

And it’s not about him conceding to Russian demands.

Zelensky is trying to bring Putin to the table, who currently has locked himself in his bedroom and is refusing to come out and speak to anyone but the family dog.

Ok then, if Putin is hiding in his bedroom and losing the war, why is Zelensky ready to concede to Putin’s demands? 
 

 

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21 minutes ago, el midgetron said:

Ok then, if Putin is hiding in his bedroom and losing the war, why is Zelensky ready to concede to Putin’s demands? 

Your response is exactly the same question as the one to which I answered. Read your own source material.

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25 minutes ago, el midgetron said:

Ok then, if Putin is hiding in his bedroom and losing the war, why is Zelensky ready to concede to Putin’s demands? 
 

 

Maybe because he cares for the lives of the citizens ? Or is that a totally foreign concept to you ?

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Just now, Grey Area said:

Your response is exactly the same question as the one to which I answered. Read your own source material.

I know it’s the same question. Because “Putin hiding in his bedroom” doesn’t change the premise of the question. If Russia is losing why is Zelensky willing to concede to Putin’s demands? 
If anything, Putin hiding in his bedroom would be another reason to NOT be willing to make concessions.

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2 minutes ago, Noteverythingisaconspiracy said:

Maybe because he cares for the lives of the citizens ? Or is that a totally foreign concept to you ?

I was advocating for that course of action weeks ago while others here were cheerleading kicking off WW3. 
 

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31 minutes ago, el midgetron said:

Ok then, if Putin is hiding in his bedroom and losing the war, why is Zelensky ready to concede to Putin’s demands? 
 

 

Because he still wants the war over. And the 'concessions' are basically leaving Ukraine in a strategically better position than before the war. 

Not much help to the civilians Russia is murdering though.

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7 minutes ago, Noteverythingisaconspiracy said:

Maybe because he cares for the lives of the citizens ? Or is that a totally foreign concept to you ?

So, earlier in the invasion wanting a quick resolution to the situation to save Ukrainian lives was apparently towing “Russian propaganda”. But now after weeks of death and destruction with the Russian army “losing” , now is the time to make concessions to Putin because Zelensky “cares” about saving Ukrainian lives? How does that even make sense? He could have done that weeks ago and before Russia was losing?

Why concede if Russia is losing?

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4 minutes ago, Setton said:

Because he still wants the war over. And the 'concessions' are basically leaving Ukraine in a strategically better position than before the war. 

Not much help to the civilians Russia is murdering though.

How has Putin’s demands changed since he first made them?

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6 minutes ago, Setton said:

Because he still wants the war over. And the 'concessions' are basically leaving Ukraine in a strategically better position than before the war. 

Not much help to the civilians Russia is murdering though.

So, Putin’s demands will “leave Ukraine in a strategically better position than before the war”? Do you guys just make this stuff up on the spot? Now Putin’s demands are a “good deal” for Ukraine? They will be “better off”? Wtf have they been fighting for then? 

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39 minutes ago, el midgetron said:

I was advocating for that course of action weeks ago while others here were cheerleading kicking off WW3. 
 

I actually remember that clearly,and yes you were accused of being a propagandist lol

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59 minutes ago, el midgetron said:

So, Putin’s demands will “leave Ukraine in a strategically better position than before the war”? Do you guys just make this stuff up on the spot? Now Putin’s demands are a “good deal” for Ukraine? They will be “better off”? Wtf have they been fighting for then? 

The goal was to take Ukraine. Only getting a eastern region of it would be a loss of the original goal. Russia limiting it's concessions shows that they no longer believe they can conquer Ukraine. 

It's a win for Ukraine in that they still kept their nation, but also a loss because of the territory they lose. 

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3 minutes ago, spartan max2 said:

The goal was to take Ukraine. Only getting a eastern region of it would be a loss of the original goal. Russia limiting it's concessions shows that they no longer believe they can conquer Ukraine. 

It's a win for Ukraine in that they still kept their nation, but also a loss because of the territory they lose. 

Well due to Russia's original stated goal of "demilitarization and denazification" they still wouldn't have solved either... Ukraine will wind up better armed and Azov still is kicking so...

What they might wind up with is what they already had being recognized plus the coast,not sure if they can spin that as total victory or mission accomplished but that seems to be the reality of it all.

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4 minutes ago, spartan max2 said:

The goal was to take Ukraine. Only getting a eastern region of it would be a loss of the original goal. Russia limiting it's concessions shows that they no longer believe they can conquer Ukraine. 

It's a win for Ukraine in that they still kept their nation, but also a loss because of the territory they lose. 

Was that the goal? Are there any actually statements by Putin to this effect? 
 

To my understanding, Putin’s demands more or less reflected his goals in Ukraine. Ukrainian neutrality, recognition of Crimea as a Russian state and the independence of the Donbas region states. 
 

It’s still unclear to me why Zelensky seems ready to make concessions now if Russia is losing. But whatever, everyone will be better off if they can reach a peace deal. 

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21 hours ago, susieice said:

ABC World News Tonight also just reported that Russian troops are leaving Chernobyl. Soldiers are showing signs of radiation poisoning.

https://www.wbal.com/article/556421/193/the-latest-relief-for-kyiv-russia-vows-to-scale-back-near-the-capital

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/mar/31/russians-leaving-chernobyl-after-radiation-exposur/

 

Naeee that is not true.. the radiation in chernobyl is too low for that even if you dig in the ground.
You have to spend like 50 years there now to be poisioned.. If you dont hug the old core...

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1 hour ago, el midgetron said:

I know it’s the same question. Because “Putin hiding in his bedroom” doesn’t change the premise of the question. If Russia is losing why is Zelensky willing to concede to Putin’s demands? 
If anything, Putin hiding in his bedroom would be another reason to NOT be willing to make concessions.

But your links provide the answer.

Thus far Putin has refused to engage in diplomacy directly.  Carrot and stick.

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