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Russia Masses Military Equipment Near Ukraine Borders: A Prologue to WWIII?


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1 hour ago, Tatetopa said:

I think you are right, they are not currently needed.  Maybe they are getting ready for the counterstrike when Putin and his bunker buddies see what it is like to be on the other end of munitions. 

I think that figure is made up. And even if they really have 900.000 reservists, they are likely poorly trained, as only their regular armed forces have received Western military training.

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24 minutes ago, Occult1 said:

I think that figure is made up. And even if they really have 900.000 reservists, they are likely poorly trained, as only their regular armed forces have received Western military training.

You do understand a very large percentage of those reservist are veterans of the past 8 years of fighting in the Donbas.  Most of them are going to have actual combat experience, even than Ukranian troops have restarted training with American/NATO militaries either inside Ukraine or inside other european countries.

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23 hours ago, razman said:

I keep reading that the US is touting things like , " our intel helped kill Russian generals , and blabbing about all the Javelins that are helping the war , and even bringing  a representative of the manufacturer of the Javelins or Stingers on stage about it. They tote it around like a victory badge or something , like an ego thing , i wish they would just shut their mouths about it already. Then they report a shortage of Javelins. WTF is going on with these people?

So now apparently the Pentagon is in damage control over the intel helping to kill Russian generals report , and now i read that the US gave intel to sinking the Russian warship. Seems the media just love provoking trouble. This kind of stuff should be considered classified , and if the media blurt it out , string em up.

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48 minutes ago, razman said:

So now apparently the Pentagon is in damage control over the intel helping to kill Russian generals report , and now i read that the US gave intel to sinking the Russian warship. Seems the media just love provoking trouble. This kind of stuff should be considered classified , and if the media blurt it out , string em up.

It's common knowledge at this point that the Ukrainian armed forces are a U.S./NATO proxy. They are running the show by providing intelligence, heavy weapons, training etc. The Ukrainian General Staff is probably taking their orders from the Pentagon itself. The goal is to ''weaken'' Russia through their proxy forces, or even attempt regime change in Moscow though they seem to have backed down recently from that crazy rhetoric.

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Russia's economy is back on its feet – The Economist

 

IN EARLY APRIL we pointed to preliminary evidence that the Russian economy was defying predictions of collapse, even as Western countries introduced unprecedented sanctions. Recent data further support this view. Helped along by capital controls and high interest rates, the rouble is now as valuable as it was before Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in late February (see top chart). Russia appears to be keeping up with payments of its foreign-currency bonds.

https://biz.crast.net/russias-economy-is-back-on-its-feet/

 

The Anti-Russian sanctions are not working at all. What should we do next?

 

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Anti-war sentiment is starting to grow in Russia.  The largest anti-war sentiment growth seems to be in central and eastern Russia where a lot of the soldiers who have been killed so far originate from.

In Nizhnevartovsk a military recruitment center was burned down by a disgruntled citizen.

In another Russian city anti-war graffiti is appearing throughout the city commemorating the massacre in Bucha.

Anti-war sentiment is only going to continue to grow and with so much of Russia's national guard dedicated to the invasion of Ukraine the Russian government will have a harder time suppressing dissent especially in central and eastern Russia.

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13 hours ago, godnodog said:

yeap,

today I saw a video explaining that the russian precision missiles have a fail rate (missing their specific location targets) by over 60%.
If this is true, then with the better anti missile systems, tanks, russian will need to resort to airstrikes which will lead to heavy aircraft losses, or they will suffer a lot more of damage by comparison to what they got so far.
I just wish Putin would call it a victory day and go back waving victory flags and how great they are, and hell, how they "defeated" NATO in this proxy war.

This make me think that perhaps all or some of the strike against civilians have been mishits from the original target? If the accuracy is only 40% then this become very plausible. The question is why and why not use the airforce with their own laser guided weapons to hit targets in populated areas instead of the clumsy artillery? I guess most of the pieces comes from Brezhnev or Khrushchev times?

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8 hours ago, Occult1 said:

Ukraine doesn't have the logistics to gather reinforcements from across the country and deploy them to eastern Ukraine. Large-scale movements of Ukrainian armed forces would be easily detected and become targets for Russian strikes. If they could mobilize all these reservists to defeat the Russian offensive in the Donbass, they would have done it already. So that 900000 is completely irrelevant.

 

7 hours ago, DarkHunter said:

You have no idea how mobilization works do you.  900,000+ people who will either need retrained for the reserve forces or trained for the first time with the volunteers takes time.  Besides from the training they need armed, organized, and transported.  Then there is the issue of limited capacity for training or retraining.

The ones who can be sent out the fastest have/are being sent to replace losses from the units already in combat.  

The rest will be trained at probably close to maximum training capacity for Ukraine.  Probably take approximately 2 months to train, equipped, and organize each batch with each batch probably being between 100,000 to 200,000 soldiers.  The first batch will probably be ready soon if it isnt already.  Realistically by start of fall to mid fall Ukraine will probably have increased its military size by 500,000 to 600,000 extra combatants.

As for your claims of large movements being at risk of being targeted by Russian air power if that was capable at all than why hasnt Russia used that ability to target the large Ukranian troop concentrations already deployed and end the war.

But as always you just push Russian propaganda and misinformation and have no real idea about what you are talking about.

^What he said.

 

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7 hours ago, DarkHunter said:

You have no idea how mobilization works do you.  900,000+ people who will either need retrained for the reserve forces or trained for the first time with the volunteers takes time.  Besides from the training they need armed, organized, and transported.  Then there is the issue of limited capacity for training or retraining.

The ones who can be sent out the fastest have/are being sent to replace losses from the units already in combat.  

The rest will be trained at probably close to maximum training capacity for Ukraine.  Probably take approximately 2 months to train, equipped, and organize each batch with each batch probably being between 100,000 to 200,000 soldiers.  The first batch will probably be ready soon if it isnt already.  Realistically by start of fall to mid fall Ukraine will probably have increased its military size by 500,000 to 600,000 extra combatants.

As for your claims of large movements being at risk of being targeted by Russian air power if that was capable at all than why hasnt Russia used that ability to target the large Ukranian troop concentrations already deployed and end the war.

But as always you just push Russian propaganda and misinformation and have no real idea about what you are talking about.

Close, its normally 6 weeks training then off to the front lines.

And it will be the front lines, with conscripts they can send to do the dirty work then they will preserve their experienced and trained core.

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1 hour ago, Poncho_Peanatus said:

This make me think that perhaps all or some of the strike against civilians have been mishits from the original target? If the accuracy is only 40% then this become very plausible. The question is why and why not use the airforce with their own laser guided weapons to hit targets in populated areas instead of the clumsy artillery? I guess most of the pieces comes from Brezhnev or Khrushchev times?

Russian cannot use their airforce like that on a regular basis, due to lack of intense training, subpar equipment (by NATO comparison) and most likely ucr air defenses.

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Ukraine is Putin's Vietnam, and ten times worse. He is putting in troops who don't want to fight against people who are fighting for their very lives- to be captured means enslavement, "re-education", concentration camps or just death. It will never end until he pulls his troops out. It was supposed to be a quick coup, install a puppet government and victory parade at the end of his career and life (he is close to 70 years old). 

He is destroying a beautiful, sovereign country, one of the greatest food producers in the world, and if he is allowed to carry on he will turn it into a wasteland.

Instead,the US, the EU and NATO will turn Ukraine into Putin and Russia's graveyard. Ukraine will survive.

 

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4 minutes ago, The Silver Shroud said:

Ukraine is Putin's Vietnam, and ten times worse. He is putting in troops who don't want to fight against people who are fighting for their very lives- to be captured means enslavement, "re-education", concentration camps or just death. It will never end until he pulls his troops out. It was supposed to be a quick coup, install a puppet government and victory parade at the end of his career and life (he is close to 70 years old). 

He is destroying a beautiful, sovereign country, one of the greatest food producers in the world, and if he is allowed to carry on he will turn it into a wasteland.

Instead,the US, the EU and NATO will turn Ukraine into Putin and Russia's graveyard. Ukraine will survive.

 

I cant believe they still haven't taken the steel plant in Mariupol haha. Literally the only thing Putler has it nukes, if we managed to have a plan to take them all out we'd be fine in a war with Putler and his hyenas. But yes I completely agree with you regarding Putlers Vietnam.

Now get ready for Putlerbot1 to come in and defend Russia.

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8 hours ago, Occult1 said:

It's common knowledge at this point that the Ukrainian armed forces are a U.S./NATO proxy. They are running the show by providing intelligence, heavy weapons, training etc. The Ukrainian General Staff is probably taking their orders from the Pentagon itself. The goal is to ''weaken'' Russia through their proxy forces, or even attempt regime change in Moscow though they seem to have backed down recently from that crazy rhetoric.

Yeah we are. Putin can't even pick his nose and it not be known. NATO spook planes on station. Quick call the Kremlin and report it. Better use the Red Phone.lol

Oh I thought that I would also add this doesn't show all the refueling tankers in the air and that have been in the air since Russia got belligerent.

 

 

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7 hours ago, Occult1 said:

Russia's economy is back on its feet – The Economist

 

IN EARLY APRIL we pointed to preliminary evidence that the Russian economy was defying predictions of collapse, even as Western countries introduced unprecedented sanctions. Recent data further support this view. Helped along by capital controls and high interest rates, the rouble is now as valuable as it was before Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in late February (see top chart). Russia appears to be keeping up with payments of its foreign-currency bonds.

https://biz.crast.net/russias-economy-is-back-on-its-feet/

 

The Anti-Russian sanctions are not working at all. What should we do next?

 

They already doing it with the proxy war and other propaganda's.

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5 hours ago, Poncho_Peanatus said:

This make me think that perhaps all or some of the strike against civilians have been mishits from the original target? If the accuracy is only 40% then this become very plausible. The question is why and why not use the airforce with their own laser guided weapons to hit targets in populated areas instead of the clumsy artillery? I guess most of the pieces comes from Brezhnev or Khrushchev times?

Maybe they tryin to save money

 

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10 hours ago, razman said:

So now apparently the Pentagon is in damage control over the intel helping to kill Russian generals report , and now i read that the US gave intel to sinking the Russian warship. Seems the media just love provoking trouble. This kind of stuff should be considered classified , and if the media blurt it out , string em up.

Evidence for that? How are they doing "damage control"?

From my impression the Pentagon was being pretty clear that our intelligence is indeed helping Ukraine, just like how we are giving them weapons. 

Would be weird to me for us to give them weapons and not also give Intel. 

 

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Another Russian warship on fire from Ukrainian missiles.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-ship-admiral-makarov-ukraine-war-b2073007.html?utm_source=reddit.com

Millions more dollars wasted that Putin could instead of been using to help Russians instead of causing death in a pointless war. 

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6 hours ago, Poncho_Peanatus said:

This make me think that perhaps all or some of the strike against civilians have been mishits from the original target? If the accuracy is only 40% then this become very plausible. The question is why and why not use the airforce with their own laser guided weapons to hit targets in populated areas instead of the clumsy artillery? I guess most of the pieces comes from Brezhnev or Khrushchev times?

The failures arent in terms of accuracy with only 40% hitting their target.  The failures are in the precision munition not detonating on impact, having a catastrophic failure while traveling to target, or just failing to launch period.

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1 hour ago, spartan max2 said:

Another Russian warship on fire from Ukrainian missiles.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-ship-admiral-makarov-ukraine-war-b2073007.html?utm_source=reddit.com

Millions more dollars wasted that Putin could instead of been using to help Russians instead of causing death in a pointless war. 

But what about Putin's glory.... I mean modarussa survival?

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1 hour ago, spartan max2 said:

Another Russian warship on fire from Ukrainian missiles.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-ship-admiral-makarov-ukraine-war-b2073007.html?utm_source=reddit.com

Millions more dollars wasted that Putin could instead of been using to help Russians instead of causing death in a pointless war. 

As much as i want this to be true its still waiting to be verified.

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11 hours ago, Occult1 said:

Russia's economy is back on its feet – The Economist

 

 

 

Far from the truth, but even if then it is thanks to the crops they are stealing and all the plundering in Ukraine.

Get us credible sources not the Russian garbage.

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24 minutes ago, odas said:

Far from the truth, but even if then it is thanks to the crops they are stealing and all the plundering in Ukraine.

Get us credible sources not the Russian garbage.

The Economist is a respected journal on politics, economics and culture.

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49 minutes ago, Occult1 said:

The Economist is a respected journal on politics, economics and culture.

Don't care.

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9 minutes ago, odas said:

Don't care.

So you dismiss sources as "Russian garbage" only when they don't fit your narrative.

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3 minutes ago, Occult1 said:

So you dismiss sources as "Russian garbage" only when they don't fit your narrative.

I find the headline to be a little sensational.

Russia burning through their reserves to keep their economy propped up. 

The full economic effect of the ear and sanctions have not been realized yet.

Similar to the cost of the war, Putin does not have the resources to play this game for long. The longer he goes the worse it will be for Russia. 

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