Russia Masses Military Equipment Near Ukraine Borders: A Prologue to WWIII?

[+Nuclear Wessel]

33 minutes ago, DarkHunter said:

I cant remember if this has been posted yet but Lithuania has stopped Russia from supplying Kaliningrad through Lithuanian territory.  

On the topic of Lithuania:

What are your thoughts on Russia drafting a bill to repeal the sovereignty of Lithuania? Do you think they will attempt military action against them? Not sure how trustworthy the story is as I have only seen it peddled on newsweek and Fox News took it and sensationalized the hell out of it, but it'd be interesting to hear your thoughts on the matter.

Russia Mulls Lithuania's 'Illegal' Independence From Moscow (newsweek.com)

[DarkHunter]

24 minutes ago, Nuclear Wessel said:

On the topic of Lithuania:

What are your thoughts on Russia drafting a bill to repeal the sovereignty of Lithuania? Do you think they will attempt military action against them? Not sure how trustworthy the story is as I have only seen it peddled on newsweek and Fox News took it and sensationalized the hell out of it, but it'd be interesting to hear your thoughts on the matter.

Russia Mulls Lithuania's 'Illegal' Independence From Moscow (newsweek.com)

The head of the Russian Duma, cant remember his name or the official government title he has but he is of the same political party as Putin, did introduce a bill to revoke Lithuanian independence saying how Lithuania's independence was done illegally and is therefore not legimate.  Not sure if it has been voted on yet or not but it 100% is a true story.

As for why this would be done, that is a bit less clear.  The most likely reason is an attempted feint to limit weapon shipments to Ukraine, basically convince NATO a confrontation with Russia is soon and hope they will start stockpiling weapons to protect themselves instead of sending them to Ukraine.  The other main possibility is the Russian government now believes there own propaganda which if true is extremely dangerous as Russia might just try to make a move on Lithuania.

Ever since about 2014 Russia has been preparing its population for a war with NATO through every Avenue available while also pushing an extremely ethno-nationalistic ideology on the Russian population.  After close to a decade of both a large segment of the Russian population does believe that America and Europe is trying to destroy Russia and not only do they need to act to stop it but that they can win a war with America/Europe.

Its impossible to say if Russia will act or not but if the Russian government does decide to attack Lithuania or the Baltic states the majority of the Russian population would support it.

[Trelane]

37 minutes ago, Nuclear Wessel said:

On the topic of Lithuania:

What are your thoughts on Russia drafting a bill to repeal the sovereignty of Lithuania? Do you think they will attempt military action against them? Not sure how trustworthy the story is as I have only seen it peddled on newsweek and Fox News took it and sensationalized the hell out of it, but it'd be interesting to hear your thoughts on the matter.

Russia Mulls Lithuania's 'Illegal' Independence From Moscow (newsweek.com)

It wouldn't surprise me if they did. However, their military is currently bogged down with no end in sight in the Ukraine. I'm not certain they have the capabilities now to engage in that manner.

If ol' Vladdy boy decided to start another illegal invasion creating a second front, it would doom Russia for sure.

[Occult1]

6 hours ago, Gromdor said:

If true, I would say that would have been a good thing for Ukraine as 50 leaders with lethally poor strategic decision making skills were terminated from the job.  The ones with the wisdom to not be there have a better chance of winning the war.  

The Ukrainian President is taking selfies near the front lines in the east and south, I'm not sure that is really good strategic decision making skill either.

Edited June 20, 2022 by Occult1

[Grim Reaper 6]

Here is the latest update from the Ukraine, at this point according to Denys Davrdov the loss of Ukrainian Generals and other officers has not been announced as yet in the Ukraine so it appears at this time that this Russian misinformation, disinformation or Propaganda. In addition Belarus was also discussed concerning information that it’s ready to invade the Ukraine, at this time this also appears to be Russian propaganda. I suspect in the very near future these claims will either proven or dismissed. I would also add that the media sites coving both those stories have all cut and pasted the current information from the primary source that first promoted that information.

@Helen of Annoy

[Occult1]

Ukraine war: Russia becomes China's biggest oil supplier

''Russia has become China's biggest supplier of oil as the country sold discounted crude to Beijing amid sanctions over the Ukraine war.

This comes in the wake of a February meeting where the two countries said their friendship had "no limits".

Encouraged by lower prices, Chinese firms have ramped up purchases of Russian oil this year.

Official figures show that imports of Russian oil rose by 55% from a year earlier to a record level in May.

The supply, which includes supplies pumped through the East Siberia Pacific Ocean pipeline and shipments by sea from Russia's European and Far Eastern ports, totalled nearly 8.42m tonnes last month, according to data from the Chinese General Administration of Customs.''

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61861849

[Grim Reaper 6]

2 minutes ago, Occult1 said:

Ukraine war: Russia becomes China's biggest oil supplier

''Russia has become China's biggest supplier of oil as the country sold discounted crude to Beijing amid sanctions over the Ukraine war.

This comes in the wake of a February meeting where the two countries said their friendship had "no limits".

Encouraged by lower prices, Chinese firms have ramped up purchases of Russian oil this year.

Official figures show that imports of Russian oil rose by 55% from a year earlier to a record level in May.

The supply, which includes supplies pumped through the East Siberia Pacific Ocean pipeline and shipments by sea from Russia's European and Far Eastern ports, totalled nearly 8.42m tonnes last month, according to data from the Chinese General Administration of Customs.''

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61861849

What’s your point?

it seems perfectly reasonable to assume this would take place 

[Duke Wellington]

1 hour ago, Occult1 said:

Ukraine war: Russia becomes China's biggest oil supplier

''Russia has become China's biggest supplier of oil as the country sold discounted crude to Beijing amid sanctions over the Ukraine war.

This comes in the wake of a February meeting where the two countries said their friendship had "no limits".

Encouraged by lower prices, Chinese firms have ramped up purchases of Russian oil this year.

Official figures show that imports of Russian oil rose by 55% from a year earlier to a record level in May.

The supply, which includes supplies pumped through the East Siberia Pacific Ocean pipeline and shipments by sea from Russia's European and Far Eastern ports, totalled nearly 8.42m tonnes last month, according to data from the Chinese General Administration of Customs.''

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61861849

This worries me a lot.

Sanctioning Russian oil only causes it to find a non-Western route into the global oil pot. On top of that it means our consumers pay more for it at the petrol pump.

Its bizarre, its like we believed if we flapped about enough and tried to lead people by their emotions enough and leant on other countries enough, we would somehow be able to isolate Russia on the international platform. Yet its only NATO countries + Japan that have sanctioned them. With the partial isolation it just isn`t enough to deal damage to the Russian economy, but sure is harming ours.

Lets go Brandon! The fool.

Edited June 20, 2022 by Cookie Monster

[Duke Wellington]

Its starting to get a bit more exciting in Ukraine: 

Belarus are building up on the Ukrainian border.

The attack that got 50 generals with officers is mentioned. If its true then to me that says Russian special forces are on the ground tracking the movements of their opponents military brass. It would be almost half of the Ukrainian General Staff.

[Grim Reaper 6]

1 hour ago, Cookie Monster said:

Its starting to get a bit more exciting in Ukraine: 

Belarus are building up on the Ukrainian border.

The attack that got 50 generals with officers is mentioned. If its true then to me that says Russian special forces are on the ground tracking the movements of their opponents military brass. It would be almost half of the Ukrainian General Staff.

Yes the attack was mentioned along with Belarus, however in both cases it was unknown if it were true or Russian propaganda, but based upon what the President of Belarus said below I doubt it’s true.

In a fresh blow to Vladimir Putin, the Russian dictator’s closest ally Belarus President Alyaksandr Lukashenka has declared that the invasion of Ukraine is not going according to plan and should be brought to an end as soon as possible.

[godnodog]

So far, I have not been able to find a source confirming the Russia's claim of killing over 50 top rank ukr military personnel.

[+Nuclear Wessel]

6 hours ago, Cookie Monster said:

Its starting to get a bit more exciting in Ukraine: 

Why do you use words like "exciting" to describe things going on in Ukraine? It's almost as if you derive a perverse sense of enjoyment from the war going on, over there.

[+Nuclear Wessel]

8 hours ago, Occult1 said:

Ukraine war: Russia becomes China's biggest oil supplier

''Russia has become China's biggest supplier of oil as the country sold discounted crude to Beijing amid sanctions over the Ukraine war.

This comes in the wake of a February meeting where the two countries said their friendship had "no limits".

Encouraged by lower prices, Chinese firms have ramped up purchases of Russian oil this year.

Official figures show that imports of Russian oil rose by 55% from a year earlier to a record level in May.

The supply, which includes supplies pumped through the East Siberia Pacific Ocean pipeline and shipments by sea from Russia's European and Far Eastern ports, totalled nearly 8.42m tonnes last month, according to data from the Chinese General Administration of Customs.''

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61861849

That's not exactly surprising, given their energy deals

 

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Russia has signed a contract to supply an additional 10 billion cubic meters of natural gas per year to China and has also agreed a 10-year extension of an existing deal to supply China with 200,000 barrels of oil per day.

The agreements mark a strengthening of ties between the two countries at a time of heightened geopolitical tensions between Moscow and the West over Ukraine.

Source: Russia Signs Oil and Gas Deals With China | Energy Intelligence

 

and record numbers of imports.

 

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While Europe shuns Russian oil amid sanctions and expectations of an oil embargo on Russian oil imports, India and China have stepped up purchases and are importing record volumes of Russian crude, according to data from energy analytics company Kpler cited by Bloomberg on Friday.  

Russia had up to 79 million barrels of crude either traveling on tankers or held in floating storage over the past week, Kpler’s estimates have shown. That’s more than double the 27 million barrels of crude Russia had seaborne in February, just before Putin’s invasion of Ukraine.

Source: Russia Sends Record Volumes Of Oil To India, China | OilPrice.com

 

 

[Helen of Annoy]

Just one more time, because stupidity annoys me more than anything: 

It would be astonishingly stupid to put 50 generals in a room vulnerable to a missile attack, in an active war zone. 

Only Ruzzian military is working that way (see Gerasimov getting blown up with 30 other high ranked orcs for proof), which is why they think it's something normal, something other militaries would do. 

It's a lie so retarded and disconnected from reality only Ruzzian propaganda can spout it. 

They are lying all the time, but recently they are lying even more often and more childishly blown out of any proportion. It's a great sign, because it's a sign of desperation. 

Recent Ruzzian lies are so preposterous they're actually an IQ test.  

There. I feel better now. 

[Occult1]

Russia pounds eastern Ukraine as fears grow of war's impact on food, fuel

Russia’s military machine persevered in its ferocious effort to grind down Ukraine’s defenses Monday, as the war’s consequences for food and fuel supplies increasingly weighed on minds around the globe after warnings that the fighting could go on for years.

In Ukraine’s eastern Luhansk region, which in recent weeks has become the focal point of Moscow’s attempt to impose its will on its neighbor, battles raged for the control of multiple villages, the local governor said.

[...]

Haidai told The Associated Press on Monday that the situation in Sievierodonetsk was “very difficult,” with the Ukrainian forces maintaining control over just one area — the Azot chemical plant, where a number of Ukrainian fighters, along with about 500 civilians, are taking shelter.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russia-pounds-eastern-ukraine-fears-food-energy-supplies-rcna34358

 

There are reports that Russia has liberated the village of Metolkine, near Severodonetsk.

Meanwhile, Western citizens are expected to pay more for food and gas for years while China is buying cheap, discounted Russian oil by the tonnes.

Edited June 20, 2022 by Occult1

[Helen of Annoy]

It's true. Ukraine does not control Metolkine village, practically a suburb of Sieverodonetsk. 

It was so bombed by now orcs won't find much to steal. And civilians are gone, so they won't find many to torture to death. 

Remaining civilians are hiding in the shelters under the chemical plant Azot. There's more than 30 children among them. 

That's what Ruzzian "liberation" looks like. 

Orcs are killing children and when an Ukrainian mother who miraculously survived torture followed by the execution asked "why, why the children too?" the son of an alcoholic ***** (typical orc) said: "Because otherwise your children would grow up and exact revenge on us." 

That's why I'm convinced it's a medical fact (not political or social) that any supporter of Putin must be a psychopath of significant degree.  

Orcs are destroying someone else's country, someone else's home, orcs are filling mass graves with Ukrainians - only a psychopath can call that a "liberation". 

Only a psychopath can act as if it's not obvious that Putler is the reason for higher prices both in the West and in his Mordor, and looming hunger in the third world. 

And only a psychopath can believe they're immune to the consequences of their actions. Nope, you're not immune. Putler will soon start an open, direct conflict in the West and then his western groupies will finally get a chance to sacrifice themselves for Putler, instead of gleefully watching others being sacrificed. 

 

On the brighter side, just listen to this, it's guaranteed to "infect" you with laughter: 

 The title: Frying the "occupants". (Those who occupied the land.)

Not much to translate, just this wonderful laughter and "Beauty, I can't believe this beauty... beauty... guys, boys, respect..." 

Edited June 20, 2022 by Helen of Annoy

[Helen of Annoy]

 Something's burning in the Black Sea. 

I'm not saying it's the Snake Island ON FIRE, but it looks like it's the Snake Island on fire. 

(tweet is in Ukrainian, I won't post it, too much of foreign language for this site)

 

Khloptsy (boys), khloptsy, respect! 

 

 

edit to clarify: I'm not talking about oil rig occupied by Russians that definitely was hit earlier today. There's confirmed fire at Snake Island, it's only the question what caused it  

Edited June 20, 2022 by Helen of Annoy

[Myles]

1 hour ago, Occult1 said:

 

 

There are reports that Russia has liberated the village of Metolkine, near Severodonetsk.

Meanwhile, Western citizens are expected to pay more for food and gas for years while China is buying cheap, discounted Russian oil by the tonnes.

Isn't it "liberated" only if most of the people wanted it?         The more accurate term would be that Russia is occupying the village.

[Occult1]

12 minutes ago, Myles said:

Isn't it "liberated" only if most of the people wanted it?         The more accurate term would be that Russia is occupying the village.

The innocent civilians in the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics want nothing to do with Ukraine. They have been under attack for years.

 

 

Edited June 20, 2022 by Occult1

[DarkHunter]

Ukraine has used two American harpoon missiles to sink a tug boat of the black sea fleet that was transporting equipment and soldiers to snake island.

[Myles]

16 minutes ago, Occult1 said:

The innocent civilians in the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics want nothing to do with Ukraine. They have been under attack for years.

 

 

Can you prove that they are the majority of people there?   

[odas]

1 hour ago, Occult1 said:

Russia pounds eastern Ukraine as fears grow of war's impact on food, fuel

Russia’s military machine persevered in its ferocious effort to grind down Ukraine’s defenses Monday, as the war’s consequences for food and fuel supplies increasingly weighed on minds around the globe after warnings that the fighting could go on for years.

In Ukraine’s eastern Luhansk region, which in recent weeks has become the focal point of Moscow’s attempt to impose its will on its neighbor, battles raged for the control of multiple villages, the local governor said.

[...]

Haidai told The Associated Press on Monday that the situation in Sievierodonetsk was “very difficult,” with the Ukrainian forces maintaining control over just one area — the Azot chemical plant, where a number of Ukrainian fighters, along with about 500 civilians, are taking shelter.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russia-pounds-eastern-ukraine-fears-food-energy-supplies-rcna34358

 

There are reports that Russia has liberated the village of Metolkine, near Severodonetsk.

Meanwhile, Western citizens are expected to pay more for food and gas for years while China is buying cheap, discounted Russian oil by the tonnes.

1. Occupied not liberated.

2. Regardles of how this war ends it will not be a good future for Russia, China, India and their supporters. Our loss in the west is temporary as is your gain. And I will tell you why. I am a supporter of Palestine, I try to defend Iran on their nuclear deals. I do my best to defend Truck Drivers of asian, Indian origin. I defended even China against racists. But, talking to many people who think like me, we can change the course, easily. Droping Palestine, droping China, India, Iran...all are noth worth to fight for if they continue their path.

I am afraid soon you will be waking up wondering what happened. And, it will happen.

[Helen of Annoy]

"Russian world". Psychopaths with delusions of grandeur.  

 

[Helen of Annoy]

30 minutes ago, DarkHunter said:

Ukraine has used two American harpoon missiles to sink a tug boat of the black sea fleet that was transporting equipment and soldiers to snake island.

Have you got any rumors on Snake Island? A lot of missiles hit it, supposedly. I'm dying of curiosity.  

[Helen of Annoy]

Putler is trying to repeat Holodomor. Not just in Ukraine, that demon is aiming at causing world hunger. 

(On a lighter note, in one of missile attacks on Odesa orcs destroyed beach toilet. They sure have funny definition of military target.)

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/ukraine-crisis-odesa-idINL8N2Y732B

KYIV, June 20 (Reuters) - A food warehouse in the Black Sea port of Odesa was destroyed in a Russian missile attack on Monday but no civilians were killed, the Ukrainian military said.

The Operational Command “South” said Russian forces fired 14 missiles at southern Ukraine during a three-hour barrage “in impotent anger at the successes of our troops.”