Russia Masses Military Equipment Near Ukraine Borders: A Prologue to WWIII?

[DarkHunter]

It's been confirmed that the Ukranian military has liberated Kyselivka.  Seems there is little news about what is going on in Kherson cause the Ukranian government has requested people not talk about the ongoing military operation until statements are made by the Ukranian government.

For those that dont know Kyselivka made up a part of the third and final defensive ring around Kherson.

The Ukranian military has also advanced further in Zaporizhzhia oblast, hearing for the second day that the advance was 10 km.  Not completely sure if it's two seperate 10 km advances or just one single 10 km advance talked about two days in a row.

A further two Russian ammunition depots have been destroyed in southern Ukraine, not sure if they were in Kherson oblast or Zaporizhia oblast.

[Occult1]

Russia's ruble is the strongest currency in the world this year

''Three months after the ruble's value fell to less than a U.S. penny amid the toughest economic sanctions imposed on a country in modern history, Russia's currency has mounted a stunning turnaround. The ruble has jumped 40% against the dollar since January. 

"It's an unusual situation," said Jeffrey Frankel, professor of capital formation and growth at the Harvard Kennedy School.

Normally, a country facing international sanctions and a major military conflict would see investors fleeing and a steady outflow of capital, causing its currency to drop. But Russia's unusually aggressive measures to keep money from leaving the country, in combination with a dramatic rise in fossil-fuel prices, are working to create demand for rubles and pushing up its value. ''

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/russias-ruble-is-the-strongest-currency-in-the-world-this-year/ar-AAXLI1S?ocid=uxbndlbing

 

Is Russia winning the economic war? It sure looks like it.

Edited June 21, 2022 by Occult1

[+Nuclear Wessel]

1 minute ago, Occult1 said:

Is Russia winning the economic war? It sure looks like it.

Do you have anything useful to post, or...?

[Occult1]

35 minutes ago, Nuclear Wessel said:

Do you have anything useful to post, or...?

We have been told that the Russian economy would be on it's knees, that Putin would be begging for some sanctions relief. That hasn't happened.

Instead, Russia's oil revenues have increased by 50 percent per month since the beginning of 2022. They are making more money. The ruble is now the strongest currency in the world.

Western sanctions on Russia fuel high inflation in Europe and America and are leading us straight to a global economy crisis.

Only a fool persists in error.

Edited June 21, 2022 by Occult1

[+Nuclear Wessel]

10 minutes ago, Occult1 said:

We have been told that the Russian economy would be on it's knees, that Putin would be begging for some sanctions relief. That hasn't happened.

Instead, Russia's oil revenues have increased by 50 percent per month since the beginning of 2022. They are making more money. The ruble is now the strongest currency in the world.

Western sanctions on Russia fuel high inflation in Europe and America and are leading us straight to a global economy crisis.

Only a fool persists in error.

See my response above.

[+Nuclear Wessel]

 

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Analysis: Two months on, Russia is still struggling to capture Severodonetsk

It's been nearly two months since Russian forces began their assault on the city of Severodonetsk. But despite overwhelming firepower, they still can't dislodge determined Ukrainian resistance — nor cut the supply lines that provide the city's remaining defenders with a drip-feed of weapons and ammunition.

Source: https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-06-21-22/h_1fa3cb7504e82b65aa1ae86bc95cdee8

 

 

[DarkHunter]

1 hour ago, Occult1 said:

Russia's ruble is the strongest currency in the world this year

''Three months after the ruble's value fell to less than a U.S. penny amid the toughest economic sanctions imposed on a country in modern history, Russia's currency has mounted a stunning turnaround. The ruble has jumped 40% against the dollar since January. 

"It's an unusual situation," said Jeffrey Frankel, professor of capital formation and growth at the Harvard Kennedy School.

Normally, a country facing international sanctions and a major military conflict would see investors fleeing and a steady outflow of capital, causing its currency to drop. But Russia's unusually aggressive measures to keep money from leaving the country, in combination with a dramatic rise in fossil-fuel prices, are working to create demand for rubles and pushing up its value. ''

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/russias-ruble-is-the-strongest-currency-in-the-world-this-year/ar-AAXLI1S?ocid=uxbndlbing

 

Is Russia winning the economic war? It sure looks like it.

Its interesting you didnt quote the last sentence from your link.

"The ruble's resiliency means that Russia is partly insulated from the punishing economic penalties imposed by Western nations after its invasion of Ukraine, although how long that protection will last is uncertain."

It's almost as if you were trying to hide the fact that this economic trick Russia is pulling wont last forever.

Interestingly despite having a strong currency Russian imports are down approximately 50%.  Generally countries with a strong currency import and countries that depend on exports go for a weak currency.

https://cepa.org/russia-begins-to-pay-the-price-for-sanctions/

"the head of Sberbank said it may take Russia a decade to return to its pre-invasion performance. Half the country’s imports and exports were sanctions-affected. Inflation is at 17% and rising, while in 2022 national output will slump by anything from 8%-30%."

[Trelane]

1 hour ago, Hugh Mungus said:

 

Saw this a couple hours ago. Surprised that the German TV station let him speak for so long without cutting him off.

How are western media outlets going to spin Russia expanding their territory as a Ukrainian victory?

Maybe Nato shouldn't involve themselves with countries outside of Nato? Saying that, even New Zealand was invited to this week's Nato conference, even though you can't get further away from the north Atlantic than NZ

Tactically and diplomatically that is a ridiculous statement. It was because of NATO that the Ukraine has likely lasted this long without (until recently) Russian illegal invasion and annexation.

Inviting a non-NATO country to a conference has nothing to do with geography. Joint operations as a coalition are often reviewed these conference, along with many other items. 

[Trelane]

1 hour ago, Occult1 said:

Russia's ruble is the strongest currency in the world this year

''Three months after the ruble's value fell to less than a U.S. penny amid the toughest economic sanctions imposed on a country in modern history, Russia's currency has mounted a stunning turnaround. The ruble has jumped 40% against the dollar since January. 

"It's an unusual situation," said Jeffrey Frankel, professor of capital formation and growth at the Harvard Kennedy School.

Normally, a country facing international sanctions and a major military conflict would see investors fleeing and a steady outflow of capital, causing its currency to drop. But Russia's unusually aggressive measures to keep money from leaving the country, in combination with a dramatic rise in fossil-fuel prices, are working to create demand for rubles and pushing up its value. ''

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/russias-ruble-is-the-strongest-currency-in-the-world-this-year/ar-AAXLI1S?ocid=uxbndlbing

 

Is Russia winning the economic war? It sure looks like it.

They're not winning any war economically or militarily. The bear is dying a death by a thousand papercuts.

[Trelane]

39 minutes ago, Occult1 said:

We have been told that the Russian economy would be on it's knees, that Putin would be begging for some sanctions relief. That hasn't happened.

Instead, Russia's oil revenues have increased by 50 percent per month since the beginning of 2022. They are making more money. The ruble is now the strongest currency in the world.

Western sanctions on Russia fuel high inflation in Europe and America and are leading us straight to a global economy crisis.

Only a fool persists in error.

Give it time, the sanctions have only really hit the affect desired until recently.  we all that Putin is too stubborn to realize he's wrong and would never "beg". That's why Russia has had to focus it's misguided alliance with the Chinese for exporting oil It's like putting some flex tape on the Titanic. The economic sanctions are enacting the necessary blows. Breadlines aren't obvious to spot right away. Only once they wrap around the block and you can't get what you need will be obvious. Let me know how that works out for you come this winter.

[Trelane]

1 hour ago, Nuclear Wessel said:

Do you have anything useful to post, or...?

No, he's parroting only a pro-Russian narrative. Obviously he is in denial of the catastrophic miscalculation by Vladdy boy.

It's kind of sad and pathetic and I slightly feel sorry he's that delusional. I guess that's just to show solidarity with that lying KGB dog Putin.

[+Nuclear Wessel]

48 minutes ago, DarkHunter said:

It's almost as if you were trying to hide the fact that this economic trick Russia is pulling wont last forever.

This is not the first time that I have noticed Occult ignoring facts within his own sources that weaken the arguments he's trying to make. It's just blatantly obvious, at this point, that he's pro-Russian and believes that Russia is actually doing a service to Eastern Ukraine by, allegedly, attempting to "de-Nazify" Donbas.

[ThereWeAreThen]

10 minutes ago, Nuclear Wessel said:

This is not the first time that I have noticed Occult ignoring facts within his own sources that weaken the arguments he's trying to make. It's just blatantly obvious, at this point, that he's pro-Russian and believes that Russia is actually doing a service to Eastern Ukraine by, allegedly, attempting to "de-Nazify" Donbas.

I'm pretty sure there's a neo nazi problem in Ruzzia aswell....are you thinking what I'm thinking?

 

That's right its time to denazify Western style!! Oh yea!!! We'll bring decade's of experience of war fare, fully trained soldiers, hi tech weaponry and high precision missiles n bombs!! As a bonus we won't flatten towns or cities!!

[Gromdor]

Ah, I like them.  They are like nega-psychics.  I am hoping they will tell me who will not win the next FIFA World Cup or what the next winning lottery tickets will not be.

[spartan max2]

3 hours ago, Hugh Mungus said:

 

Saw this a couple hours ago. Surprised that the German TV station let him speak for so long without cutting him off.

How are western media outlets going to spin Russia expanding their territory as a Ukrainian victory?

Maybe Nato shouldn't involve themselves with countries outside of Nato? Saying that, even New Zealand was invited to this week's Nato conference, even though you can't get further away from the north Atlantic than NZ

A victory and a loss. Like if someone tries to take your whole nation and you stop them to where they only take part of it than I would count that as a victory is some respect and a loss in some respect. 

[Knob Oddy]

1 hour ago, spartan max2 said:

A victory and a loss. Like if someone tries to take your whole nation and you stop them to where they only take part of it than I would count that as a victory is some respect and a loss in some respect. 

Was Russia's goal to take all of Ukraine? I thought they wanted the President and to create a a new buffer state between them and Ukraine (called donbas or something similar, I'd have to read the Minsk agreement as to what the state was to be called)

[+Nuclear Wessel]

1 minute ago, Hugh Mungus said:

Was Russia's goal to take all of Ukraine?

It certainly seemed that way, initially.

[spartan max2]

3 minutes ago, Hugh Mungus said:

Was Russia's goal to take all of Ukraine? I thought they wanted the President and to create a a new buffer state between them and Ukraine (called donbas or something similar, I'd have to read the Minsk agreement as to what the state was to be called)

Yes.

They invaded Kyvie but couldn't take it.

[Knob Oddy]

Just now, spartan max2 said:

Yes.

They invaded Kyvie but couldn't take it.

My understanding is that was a mission to take the president which failed. Not that I keep up with the western media propaganda.

Putin hasn't changed his mission goal as far as I can tell. He was p***ed about Ukraine ignoring the Minsk agreement and held the president responsible for the ethnic Russian deaths at the hands of Azov.

 

[spartan max2]

Just now, Hugh Mungus said:

My understanding is that was a mission to take the president which failed. Not that I keep up with the western media propaganda.

Putin hasn't changed his mission goal as far as I can tell. He was p***ed about Ukraine ignoring the Minsk agreement and held the president responsible for the ethnic Russian deaths at the hands of Azov.

 

I do not care what Russia says. Actions speak louder than words.

Invading Kyvie to try and capture Zelensky would certainly be one of the worst military strategies I have ever heard of lol.

 

[Grim Reaper 6]

4 hours ago, Occult1 said:

Russia's ruble is the strongest currency in the world this year

''Three months after the ruble's value fell to less than a U.S. penny amid the toughest economic sanctions imposed on a country in modern history, Russia's currency has mounted a stunning turnaround. The ruble has jumped 40% against the dollar since January. 

"It's an unusual situation," said Jeffrey Frankel, professor of capital formation and growth at the Harvard Kennedy School

 

Well my friend it APPEARS your correct but in reality it’s not so cut and dry. The following comments are also from JEFFREY FRANKEL  The sanctions will reorient other economies away from Russia on a long-term basis. Once built, a liquefied natural gas terminal will not be unbuilt. The world’s eleventh-largest economy will thus fall behind Brazil and others in the GDP rankings, severely impairing Russians’ standard of living and reducing their country’s geopolitical leverage. If the Kremlin had an ounce of sense – which it evidently does not – it would see the eventual outcome now, and call off the invasion.

Below is another article from StopFake.Org

StopFake.ORG: Ruble Becomes the Strongest Currency in the World

Russian media is manipulating a Reuters global foreign currency exchange rate graphic to claim that the ruble has become the strongest currency in the world. The graphic does not indicate the world’s strongest currencies, but only notes their rise and fall against the US dollar since the beginning of 2022. The first place on this chart is not occupied by the ruble, but by the Brazilian real.

Russian media and social networks are disseminating stories claiming that the Russian ruble has become the strongest currency in the world. “According to the Reuters ranking of world currencies, the result of a short three-day week is the ruble coming out on top” Russian sites write. The second and third places also belong to similarly “strong” currencies, the Brazilian real and the Mexican peso, respectively.

The Reuters table is not a list of the strongest world currencies, it is simply a chart that tracks the rise and fall of various foreign currencies against the US dollar and shows the exchange rates since the beginning of the year. Currently it is not the Russian ruble that is in first place, rather it is the Brazilian real, which has strengthened 9.7% against the dollar since the beginning of 2022. The ruble is in second place with an increase of 8.4% with the Mexican peso coming in third with an index of 1,7%. None of these three currencies are considered stable and certainly not the “strongest” in the world, as Russian media claim.

https://www.stopfake.org/en/fake-ruble-becomes-the-strongest-currency-in-the-world/

4 hours ago, Occult1 said:

Normally, a country facing international sanctions and a major military conflict would see investors fleeing and a steady outflow of capital, causing its currency to drop. But Russia's unusually aggressive measures to keep money from leaving the country, in combination with a dramatic rise in fossil-fuel prices, are working to create demand for rubles and pushing up its value. ''

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/russias-ruble-is-the-strongest-currency-in-the-world-this-year/ar-AAXLI1S?ocid=uxbndlbing

 

Is Russia winning the economic war? It sure looks like it.

 

Edited June 22, 2022 by Manwon Lender

[Knob Oddy]

3 minutes ago, spartan max2 said:

I do not care what Russia says. Actions speak louder than words.

Invading Kyvie to try and capture Zelensky would certainly be one of the worst military strategies I have ever heard of lol.

 

I didn't say it was smart, I just said that was the explanation given by the dictator of Russia 

[DarkHunter]

6 minutes ago, Hugh Mungus said:

ethnic Russian deaths at the hands of Azov

You do understand that the majority of Azov fighters were ethnic Russians who spoke Russian right.  The whole Azov targeting ethnic Russians was just Russian propaganda.

[spartan max2]

1 minute ago, Hugh Mungus said:

I didn't say it was smart, I just said that was the explanation given by the dictator of Russia 

Not a man whom I would put much trust in. 

[Knob Oddy]

Just now, DarkHunter said:

You do understand that the majority of Azov fighters were ethnic Russians who spoke Russian right.  The whole Azov targeting ethnic Russians was just Russian propaganda.

12000 deaths in 8 years in the region.

Ukraine signed Minsk agreement to allow the region to become semi autonomous, but instead had Ukrainian backed milita conduct a civil war