Russia Masses Military Equipment Near Ukraine Borders: A Prologue to WWIII?

[Grim Reaper 6]

6 minutes ago, Occult1 said:

I don't support Russia. No one, actually. I find myself in the Russian corner in this thread by default, as this is otherwise very one-sided and inaccurate.

That’s an interesting way to apply you actions and comments thus far.

Thanks for clearing that up, it helps me understand you much better my friend. LOL

[Grim Reaper 6]

10 minutes ago, Occult1 said:

Patrick Lancaster, an independant journalist who lived 8 years in Ukraine is showing us whats really happening:

 

Russian pilots still use non-military navigation equipment:

Russian military pilots are still actively using insecure, non-military navigation equipment due to the low quality of Russian own navigation systems. Ukraine has shared abundant evidence that Russians have added off-the-shelf GPS systems, such as Garmin, to the cockpit of its combat aircraft. During the interrogation of the Russian pilot captured on June 18, it turned out that he had with him a Garmin navigator and a smartphone with the ‘Pronebo’ soft in order to have more accurate navigation than the onboard navigation aids of the Russian Air Forces. Wrecked Russian fighter jets are being found with rudimentary GPS receivers “taped to the dashboards” in Ukraine because their inbuilt navigation systems are so bad, the UK’s defense secretary, Ben Wallace, said.

https://defence-blog.com/russian-pilots-still-use-non-military-navigation-equipment/

[Grim Reaper 6]

Latest update from the Ukraine - Good News - 21 June 2022 - 3 hours old

 

Update from the Ukraine | Here we Go | 21 June 2022 - 10 hours old

 

 

o@Helen of Annoy enjoy my friend.

Edited June 22, 2022 by Manwon Lender

[el midgetron]

“Our friend President Biden is sort of a mushroom: they keep him in a dark place and feed him crap.”

lol

[el midgetron]

Denys Sharapov, Ukraine’s deputy minister of the defense in charge of procurement, support for weapons and equipment, and Brig. Gen. Volodymyr Karpenko, land forces command logistics commander, spoke with National Defense Editor in Chief Stew Magnuson and other reporters through an interpreter in the Ukraine Ministry of Defense’s booth at the Eurosatory conference in Paris on June 15…..

….We have received a large number of weapon systems, but unfortunately with such a massively expendable resource, it only covers 10 to 15 percent of our needs. We need artillery, we need artillery rounds, infantry fighting vehicles, combat vehicles, tanks. We really need air-defense systems and the multiple launch rocket system…..

….Think about this: one brigade occupies around 40 kilometers of the fence line. That means that to cover the active combat conflict we need 40 brigades. Every brigade is 100 infantry fighting vehicles, 30 tanks, 54 artillery systems — just for one brigade, and we have 40 of them.

I'm not going to talk about the anti-tank guided missiles or anti-tank guided weapons for now. I’m just talking about heavy weapons. As of today, we have approximately 30 to 40, sometimes up to 50 percent of losses of equipment as a result of active combat. So, we have lost approximately 50 percent. … Approximately 1,300 infantry fighting vehicles have been lost, 400 tanks, 700 artillery systems…..

https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/articles/2022/6/15/ukraine-to-us-defense-industry-we-need-long-range-precision-weapons

[Occult1]

1 hour ago, el midgetron said:

“Our friend President Biden is sort of a mushroom: they keep him in a dark place and feed him crap.”

lol

A U.S. Army Colonel telling the harsh, bitter truth. Man, what a reality check.

- Ukraine has already lost. Russia now control territory that is responsible for roughly  80% of Ukraine's gross national product.

Edited June 22, 2022 by Occult1

[ThereWeAreThen]

20 minutes ago, Occult1 said:

A U.S. Army Colonel telling the harsh, bitter truth. Man, what a reality check.

- Ukraine has already lost. Russia now control territory that is responsible for roughly  80% of Ukraine's gross national product.

Really? With in a few seconds the show the Qanon flag, a known far right conspiracy theory group who are pro Trump. Thats your source?

[DarkHunter]

54 minutes ago, Occult1 said:

A U.S. Army Colonel telling the harsh, bitter truth. Man, what a reality check.

- Ukraine has already lost. Russia now control territory that is responsible for roughly  80% of Ukraine's gross national product.

Too bad just about all of it is complete and utter nonsense.  

To further show just how much nonsense it is I'll take that 80% of Ukraine's gross national product.  Its interesting he said gross national product and not gross domestic product, could just be a simple mistake or he is trying to play number games cause gross national product and gross domestic product are two different things.  Generally gross domestic product instead of gross national product is what is looked at for wealth.

To avoid getting overly bogged down into definitions here is a link to Ukraine's gross regional product.  While gross domestic product looks at a nation's wealth gross regional product looks at a region's wealth, in this case an oblast.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ukrainian_subdivisions_by_GRP

To give Russia an edge, cause they need all the help they can get let's just assume they control completely Lunetsk oblast, Donetsk oblast, Zaporizhzhia oblast, and Kherson oblast.  Those are the only oblasts that Russia currently holds significant territory in anyway.

Looking at that chart the total gross regional product Russia controls of Ukraine's is approximately $14.7 billion.  Should point out the gross regional product of Kyiv alone is $30 billion but for the rest of Ukraine it is approximately $111.2 billion.

Russia has not occupied close to 80% of Ukraine's wealth, at best they have occupied around 12% of which they are getting pushed back in Kherson oblast and Zaporizhzhia oblast.

Should mention this did not factor in Crimea but that wouldn't of changed things much anyway.

Ultimately the colonel has little to no idea what he is talking about.

[Grim Reaper 6]

3 hours ago, el midgetron said:

“Our friend President Biden is sort of a mushroom: they keep him in a dark place and feed him crap.”

lol

Come on dude, are serious your going to post an interview with a Vladimir Putin / Russian apologists who supports our enemy and doesn’t support the country he was once a military member of!

This is sad, all I can say is I hope you were not aware of this Putin Fan Boys reputation.

 

Edited June 22, 2022 by Manwon Lender

[Grim Reaper 6]

4 hours ago, el midgetron said:

“Our friend President Biden is sort of a mushroom: they keep him in a dark place and feed him crap.”

lol

Douglas Macgregor, was once a very patriotic American Soldier, but he sold out I mean you know it’s bad when his interviews are shown on Russian Controlled State TV.  
 

What 'Putin Wing' Ex-Colonel Douglas Macgregor Has Said About Ukraine War:

Macgregor, who served as a senior advisor under former President Donald Trump, has frequently appeared on Fox News programs, including Tucker Carlson's show, to discuss Russia's invasion. He has received backlash from both Democrats and Republicans for seeming to take a stance favorable toward Russia and its President Vladimir Putin. In multiple interviews, Macgregor has confidently predicted that the conflict will end with Russia "annihilating" Ukrainian forces and winning the war. One such interview, with Carlson, was aired on Russia's state-controlled TV.

But then when add to that he has publicly made antisemitic comments:  Macgregor has also come under fire in recent weeks after media outlets resurfaced antisemitic remarks he made last year, in which he referred to Jewish people as "rootless cosmopolitans" who "have no connection to the country," referring to the U.S. https://www.newsweek.com/what-putin-wing-ex-colonel-douglas-macgregor-has-said-about-ukraine-war-1689802

The Anti-Semite on Your TV: Fox News host Tucker Carlson’s favorite foreign policy expert has a history of echoing anti-Jewish ideas.  https://newsletters.theatlantic.com/deep-shtetl/6232acc89277230021b0891c/douglas-macgregor-jewish-tucker-carlson-purim/

Why a former Trump appointee’s pro-Russia rhetoric matters:

He argued that the United States should “absolutely” just let Putin take what he wants in Ukraine — even calling for lifting sanctions. Macgregor said he was sure that Putin had “no interest in crossing the west” of Ukraine and would settle for the east. He cited Ukraine’s history of corruption and said that “more important, the population there is indistinguishable from [Russia’s] own.” https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/former-trump-appointees-russia-rhetoric-matters-rcna17957
 

[Grim Reaper 6]

3 hours ago, Occult1 said:

A U.S. Army Colonel telling the harsh, bitter truth. Man, what a reality check.

- Ukraine has already lost. Russia now control territory that is responsible for roughly  80% of Ukraine's gross national product.

My friend just because someone says what you want to hear, doesn’t make anything he says credible. Take a look at post 7139, I posted a number of articles that outline his credibility, his honor and who he supports. There is no reality check in his comments, and he certainly isn’t telling the harsh bitter truth all his comments prove is that he sold out to Putin. Don’t put yourself in a position that makes you comments totally incredible, it’s fine to disagree but it’s not fine to use a source that is known for being anti American. When an Officer retired or not from the US Military supports a foreign power over that of his own country there is only one word that describes him Traitor! 

[Helen of Annoy]

Novoshakhtinsk oil refinery, Rostov region, Russia, is on fire 

Ruzzian putlerian media blames Ukrainian drones. It's relatively close to Ukrainian border, but it's not close to Ukrainian controlled territory, so it's most likely that Russians set themselves on fire. Again. They suck at fire safety among all the things they suck at.    

[Silver]

3 hours ago, ThereWeAreThen said:

Really? With in a few seconds the show the Qanon flag, a known far right conspiracy theory group who are pro Trump. Thats your source?

Col Douglas McGregor was a favourite of Trump, he is right-wing, afraid of immigrants and is pro-Russia.Apart from that he is unbiased.

Douglas Macgregor - Wikipedia

[Helen of Annoy]

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3512459-operation-targeting-snake-island-continues-russian-sam-pantsir-may-be-destroyed.html

Ukraine’s defense forces have delivered strikes on enemy equipment and manpower on Zmiinyi (Snake) Island in the Black Sea. The operation continues.

"There indeed been a strike. In fact, more than just one, but all of this is part of a military operation that requires silence. Nevertheless, we understand justified concerns of the population, including that in the Odesa region, who have heard the explosions with their own ears. Our troops are doing their job and if there is no warning of threat, everything is being done just right. The massive blow was inflicted as various forces were employed. We aren’t revealing all of them as the enemy’s also listening to and reading us. Therefore, the strike inflicted some damage. We see and understand that the enemy cluster of personnel and equipment has been defeated. We already know that the Pantsir anti-aircraft missile system was very badly damaged, possibly completely destroyed, we know that the radar station was very badly damaged, and there are other enemy losses that we’re verifying to take into account. The operation is underway and I think we will deliver a follow-up really soon,"

 

[Helen of Annoy]

20 minutes ago, The Silver Shroud said:

Col Douglas McGregor was a favourite of Trump, he is right-wing, afraid of immigrants and is pro-Russia.Apart from that he is unbiased.

Douglas Macgregor - Wikipedia

And regarding that "independent" ""journalist"" who is spouting Ruzzian propaganda, this is what Google gives you right away, you don't even to click further: 

The most popular of the pro-Kremlin influencers identified by researchers is Patrick Lancaster, a Missouri-born Navy intelligence veteran and self-described independent crowdfunded journalist embedded with the Russian army.8. lip 2022.

 

It's very telling that everyone who supports Ukraine is doing so openly, without any shame or need to hide it, while Ruzzian propagandists keep lying they're oh, so neutral.

It's not just natural human shame while doing something you know is wrong, it's also Ruzzian need to "prove" that there's at least some truth in their bizarre claims.   

[Grim Reaper 6]

11 minutes ago, The Silver Shroud said:

Col Douglas McGregor was a favourite of Trump, he is right-wing, afraid of immigrants and is pro-Russia.Apart from that he is unbiased.

Douglas Macgregor - Wikipedia

Well like I said above he was very well respected as a Brilliant Military Commander, during Operation Desert Storm he was in command of a pulsed up Armored Tank Company.  Where his unit engaged the Iraq Republican Guard in the largest tank battle during the Gulf War known as the Battle of 73 Easting. It would seem that the fact that his unit destroyed the Republican Guard Armor units that he would have been highly recognized, however, during the Battle some of his Bradly Fighting Vehicles got lost and enter the battle from the wrong direction which caused 2 of his Bradly Fighting Vehicles to be destroyed by his own M1 Abrams Tanks and fratricide is one of the worst things that can occur under anyones command.

I suspect that this was the cause of him being passed over for a Brigade Command, along with the fact that some of the Generals he worked for thought that while he was Brilliant his thinking was a but to unconventional and the combination of the two things prevented him from ever receiving a Brigade Command, which is a death blow for any further forward movement. Bluntly he would never make General so he was basically forced out of the Military and at some point after he retired he sold out his values, integrity and his honor. It may have been because of anger do to his lack of promotion or something else but for some reason jumped on the pro-Putin bandwagon. Now his credibility is destroyed, his integrity is gone so his anger makes him lash out at his own country so now he carries on with pro-Putin attitude and only further loses any respect he had left.

Sad sad story.

[Grim Reaper 6]

27 minutes ago, Helen of Annoy said:

And regarding that "independent" ""journalist"" who is spouting Ruzzian propaganda, this is what Google gives you right away, you don't even to click further: 

The most popular of the pro-Kremlin influencers identified by researchers is Patrick Lancaster, a Missouri-born Navy intelligence veteran and self-described independent crowdfunded journalist embedded with the Russian army.8. lip 2022.

 

It's very telling that everyone who supports Ukraine is doing so openly, without any shame or need to hide it, while Ruzzian propagandists keep lying they're oh, so neutral.

It's not just natural human shame while doing something you know is wrong, it's also Ruzzian need to "prove" that there's at least some truth in their bizarre claims.   

So very true Helen, so very true!

[Silver]

DPR suffers 55% losses! And Russian losses likely to be the same! Due to the courage and tenacity of the Ukrainian defenders, who are having to endure terrible shelling.

 

Edited June 22, 2022 by The Silver Shroud

[Helen of Annoy]

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3512473-ukrainian-army-pursues-counteroffensive-in-kherson-region.html

The Armed Forces of Ukraine are continuing their counteroffensive operation in Kherson region, without disclosing the already liberated settlements citing security reasons.

...

"We do have certain successes, pursuing counteroffensive action that allowed us to significantly advance eastwards, but we aren’t announcing the names of the liberated settlements at the moment because in the times of war, it’s very important to advance, liberate areas, cement own presence, and push the enemy out as far as it is needed to prevent powerful and truly brutal artillery and mortar strikes on settlements that are already under our control," 

...

"We are in contact with them, we communicate, we support them, and we are very grateful for the powerful guerrilla movement with which they keep the occupiers anxious. Because they constantly demonstrate that Kherson and the entire Kherson region are part of Ukraine and liberation is about to come," 

 

[+Nuclear Wessel]

8 hours ago, Occult1 said:

I don't support Russia. No one, actually. I find myself in the Russian corner in this thread by default, as this is otherwise very one-sided and inaccurate.

Your post history indicates otherwise. There is a reason why all of these intelligent folk are in agreement with me on that point, also. 

[ThereWeAreThen]

42 minutes ago, Helen of Annoy said:

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3512473-ukrainian-army-pursues-counteroffensive-in-kherson-region.html

The Armed Forces of Ukraine are continuing their counteroffensive operation in Kherson region, without disclosing the already liberated settlements citing security reasons.

...

"We do have certain successes, pursuing counteroffensive action that allowed us to significantly advance eastwards, but we aren’t announcing the names of the liberated settlements at the moment because in the times of war, it’s very important to advance, liberate areas, cement own presence, and push the enemy out as far as it is needed to prevent powerful and truly brutal artillery and mortar strikes on settlements that are already under our control," 

...

"We are in contact with them, we communicate, we support them, and we are very grateful for the powerful guerrilla movement with which they keep the occupiers anxious. Because they constantly demonstrate that Kherson and the entire Kherson region are part of Ukraine and liberation is about to come," 

 

I think when they use the MLRS uk and us are sending them they shouldn't record them firing. They should be kept secret at all times.

[spartan max2]

10 hours ago, Occult1 said:

I don't support Russia. No one, actually. I find myself in the Russian corner in this thread by default, as this is otherwise very one-sided and inaccurate.

Idk why you feel the need to lie about this. 

You cheer whenever Russia makes progress and your language clearly indicates you picking a side.

Using words like "liberate" when referring to Russia taking territory. That's you picking a side. Like its okay to pick a side. But dont be dishonest about it. 

Edited June 22, 2022 by spartan max2

[el midgetron]

6 hours ago, ThereWeAreThen said:

Really? With in a few seconds the show the Qanon flag, a known far right conspiracy theory group who are pro Trump. Thats your source?

Are you talking about the Gadsden flag? That’s your “Qanon flag”?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadsden_flag

 

[Silver]

1 hour ago, ThereWeAreThen said:

I think when they use the MLRS uk and us are sending them they shouldn't record them firing. They should be kept secret at all times.

A good point, but I think for propanganda purposes they want the enemy to know they are being supported by NATO. This is a result the Ukrainians want :

 

[Helen of Annoy]

2 hours ago, ThereWeAreThen said:

I think when they use the MLRS uk and us are sending them they shouldn't record them firing. They should be kept secret at all times.

I believe your suggestion is wise.

We are all so curious, naturally, but details about ongoing operations are classified and some of the stuff will remain classified until the whole war is over. (Ukraine repeatedly reminds journalists, bloggers etc. to take care what they're revealing, to not publish any information that might help the enemy.) 

We do not know and we should not know exactly what, how or when arrived into Ukraine. (Typically, once you read or hear that something has arrived it was in use for a week or so already.)  

Or where it scoots after it shoots