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Russia Masses Military Equipment Near Ukraine Borders: A Prologue to WWIII?


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5 minutes ago, Nuclear Wessel said:

It was quite a dramatic switch.

Especially this:

 

It was his wife posting while he went to the crapper....

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NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg: “If [Vladimir] Putin gets his way by using military force against an independent, democratic nation in Europe it will be [a] much higher [price] than the price we pay today to support Ukraine."

(source Politico at Twitter but I don't want to take up too much space since there's no visual information that might matter.)

 

Ukrainian forces are reportedly conducting counteroffensives along the Kherson-Dnipropetrovsk Oblast border and in the city of Kherson, threatening Russian forces.

 (source Kyiv Independent at Twitter.)

 

Intelligence: Overnight airstrike on Ukraine from Belarus is Russia’s attempt to draw Belarus into war. 6 Russian Tu-22M bombers launched 12 missiles from Belarus, targeting Kyiv, Chernihiv, and Sumy oblasts on June 25, Defense Ministry’s Intelligence Directorate reports.

 (source Kyiv Independent at Twitter.)

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Good news for Ukraine, really:

Tensions between Russia and NATO member Poland have been cranking up to boiling point in recent days amid Russian claims that it has killed 'up to 80 Polish mercenaries' in missile strikes.

The reported losses come on the same day that Russia confirmed it has removed a Polish flag from a memorial commemorating the murder of thousands of Poles by the Soviet Union in 1940.

To the north, Moscow has been furious over Lithuania's blocking of EU-sanctioned goods from reaching the Russian exclave of Kaliningrad, sandwiched between the Baltic state and Poland.

Now Russia threatens Poland: Putin kills 80 Polish fighters in 'precision strikes' in east Ukraine | Daily Mail Online

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12 hours ago, Occult1 said:

Russia-Ukraine War LIVE: US Says Additional HIMARS To Be Delivered To Ukraine By Mid-July

''A senior US defence official claimed that the newly announced batch of four High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS) will be delivered to Ukraine by mid-July. The official also stated that the first batch of four HIMARS has already been delivered to the war-torn country. ''

https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-crisis/russia-ukraine-war-live-british-mod-predicts-russias-war-to-decelerate-in-coming-months-liveblog.html

 

This spells trouble for Russia. The war is going to get a lot more difficult for them.

M142 HIMARS multiple rocket launchers, supplied by the United States as part of security assistance to Ukraine, are already operating at the front lines.

That’s according to Valeriy Zaluzhnyi, Commander-in-Chief of Ukraine’s Armed Forces, Ukrinform reports.

“M142 HIMARS multiple launch rocket systems are already working towards Ukraine's defense. Artillerymen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine skillfully hit certain targets - military targets of the enemy on our, Ukrainian, territory,” the top commander wrote on Telegram.(video)

HIMARS launchers already working towards Ukraine’s defense - Commander-in-Chief (ukrinform.net)

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Exclusive: Ukraine's top military spy says captured American fighters could be released in prisoner swap

KYIV, Ukraine – Ukraine has a network of spies inside the Kremlin, its military will soon score "obvious" victories in its unprovoked war with Russia, and two American volunteer fighters for Ukraine captured by Russia's military will likely be released within "a few months" in a prisoner swap, Ukraine's top military intelligence official said in an exclusive USA TODAY interview.

Maj. Gen. Kyrylo O. Budanov made the rare disclosures, some of them on extremely sensitive topics, in a wide-ranging interview Wednesday at the Defence Intelligence unit of the Ministry of Defence of Ukraine's well-fortified Kyiv headquarters.

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''Budanov said that based on "human intelligence" information that Ukraine's operatives have collected from inside the Kremlin, it appears Russian President Vladimir Putin is suffering from several "grave" illnesses and "doesn't have a long life ahead of him." Budanov said his office believes Putin will die from these illnesses within two years.''

https://ca.style.yahoo.com/exclusive-ukraines-top-military-spy-080017660.html

 

Seems Ukraine has spies at the highest Russian gov levels. Good news if those two Americans fighters are released.

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Aaaaw, it's "building credibility"... it's an IQ test for those supposed to fall for it :yes:

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55 minutes ago, Helen of Annoy said:

Aaaaw, it's "building credibility"... it's an IQ test for those supposed to fall for it :yes:

I'm glad that I'm not the only one who suspects that this is a manipulation tactic to try and build a sense of trust so that we become more open to potentially accepting propaganda as truth. It might work if the average IQ in this room was equivalent to room temperature, but... unfortunately for Occult, it's not. :P

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6 minutes ago, Nuclear Wessel said:

I'm glad that I'm not the only one who suspects that this is a manipulation tactic to try and build a sense of trust so that we become more open to potentially accepting propaganda as truth. It might work if the average IQ in this room was equivalent to room temperature, but... unfortunately for Occult, it's not. :P

Helen has convinced me to strive to report more on both sides of the conflict. She is so passionate that I felt compeled to reconsider my approach. Now since I don't support either Russia or Ukraine, I don't mind doing that. 

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38 minutes ago, Occult1 said:

Helen has convinced me to strive to report more on both sides of the conflict. She is so passionate that I felt compeled to reconsider my approach. Now since I don't support either Russia or Ukraine, I don't mind doing that. 

What was your "approach"?

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'Special exchange operation': Ukrainians send back captured russian bombs and shells

 

 

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Regarding 3 AM stuff, I was indeed kidding. It doesn't have to be before dawn at all, sometimes it's in the middle of the day. 

 

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26 minutes ago, Trelane said:

Oh, yes. We had that earlier in the thread already, but who wouldn't like to see that one again? 

The aftermath (unfortunately it blew up and set ablaze a portion of Alchevsk, Luhansk oblast, currently orc-infested... orcs manage to kill civilians even when their crap malfunctions): 

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Source: tweet by Special Kherson Cat

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Somebody is over in Germany making deals. A Boeing 747-E4B call-sign GRIMM99 which is a Doomsday plane that usually accompanies Air Force One landed in Germany, I think Ramstein and just now Air Force One with an empty call-sign just landed in Munich. I call it Air Force One but that is only used when the President is onboard and I have no way of determining the call-sign so it may be someone else. But the Doomsday plane flying over means Biden is in Germany.

If Biden is in Germany then the Free World isn't safe. lol

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25 minutes ago, Buzz_Light_Year said:

Somebody is over in Germany making deals. A Boeing 747-E4B call-sign GRIMM99 which is a Doomsday plane that usually accompanies Air Force One landed in Germany, I think Ramstein and just now Air Force One with an empty call-sign just landed in Munich. I call it Air Force One but that is only used when the President is onboard and I have no way of determining the call-sign so it may be someone else. But the Doomsday plane flying over means Biden is in Germany.

If Biden is in Germany then the Free World isn't safe. lol

Let's just say the orcs making threats against Poland aren't going unheeded. 

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8 minutes ago, Trelane said:

Let's just say the orcs making threats against Poland aren't going unheeded. 

Heck I should've read the news. Biden is in Germany for the G7. :rofl:

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Severodonetsk: Russia has full control of eastern city, Ukraine says

''Russian forces are now in control of the battered city of Severodonetsk in eastern Ukraine, its mayor says.

"The Russians have fully occupied Severodonetsk, our military has retreated to more prepared positions," Oleksandr Stryuk told Ukrainian TV.

Weeks of heavy Russian shelling have reduced the city mostly to ruins.

Many civilians have been sheltering at the vast Azot chemical plant, but Mr Stryuk said the only way out now was via Russian-held territory.''

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61936820

 

Russia controls pretty much all of Luhansk and much of Donetsk in Donbass but Zelensky has vowed that Ukraine will take back the territories.

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Op-Ed: Ukraine suffers, but Putin, and Russia, will be the loser

''Russia can’t win its war against Ukraine for a simple reason. It’s not just fighting Ukraine. It’s fighting against much of the world. The European Union granted Ukraine candidate status on Thursday, and more than 50 countries are now part of the so-called Ramstein group — committed to supporting Ukraine, including all 30 NATO members.

Russia’s only declared ally is Belarus, but the degree and reliability of its support, and the extent of its willingness to get embroiled in the actual fighting, are at best uncertain.''

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2022-06-25/ukraine-russia-war-world-against-vladimir-putin

 

Another perspective to consider.

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5 hours ago, Occult1 said:

Helen has convinced me to strive to report more on both sides of the conflict. She is so passionate that I felt compeled to reconsider my approach. Now since I don't support either Russia or Ukraine, I don't mind doing that. 

Yeah, ah-huh. I know the Kracken (that be my pet name for Helen from the early Your Are Banned game days for those that don't know, lol) can be a damn good sweet talker, and I love her sense of humor, but boy, she ain't no silver tongue goddess. So what's really going on? You heard something through the Ruzzkie grapevine we all ain't heard yet? What happened, did the little POS Putin finally die? Are Orc troops slowly pulling out of Ukraine? Somethings up for you to be going all 360 like this.People just don't switch like this without something more convincing that all is lost an it's time to join the other side.

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21 minutes ago, Gunn said:

Yeah, ah-huh. I know the Kracken (that be my pet name for Helen from the early Your Are Banned game days for those that don't know, lol) can be a damn good sweet talker, and I love her sense of humor, but boy, she ain't no silver tongue goddess. So what's really going on? You heard something through the Ruzzkie grapevine we all ain't heard yet? What happened, did the little POS Putin finally die? Are Orc troops slowly pulling out of Ukraine? Somethings up for you to be going all 360 like this.People just don't switch like this without something more convincing that all is lost an it's time to join the other side.

It's interesting how, after Helen mentioned potential legal pushback due to spreading Russian propaganda, there was an immediate change in the tone/information of his posts. It was not Helen's impassioned diatribes that was the root of the change.

It's one of four things:

1. He is genuinely afraid of potential legal pushback.
2. Something happened that we're not privy to (i.e. some change in the tides, as you alluded to.
3. His views aren't actually changed, and he is feigning willingness to consider the opposing viewpoint to build a sense of trust so that we would be more willing to consider the pro-Russian stance.

and for the 4th and most unlikely possibility: he had an epiphany, and Helen's "impassioned" stance really did cause a sudden change in his views.

I'm not sure how it would have been Helen's stance that did it, but that's just my $0.02, and I don't trust him as far as I can throw him.

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1 minute ago, Nuclear Wessel said:

It's interesting how, after Helen mentioned potential legal pushback due to spreading Russian propaganda, there was an immediate change in the tone/information of his posts. It was not Helen's impassioned diatribes that was the root of the change.

You don't say? Well now that you mentioned that tidbit, that's starting to make some sense.

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Russia promises Belarus Iskander-M nuclear-capable missiles

Russia will send nuclear capable short-range missile systems to its ally Belarus in the coming months, President Vladimir Putin has said.

He said Iskander-M systems "can fire ballistic and cruise missiles, both conventional and nuclear types".

The systems have a range of up to 500km (310 miles).

Tensions between Russia and the West have escalated, following President Putin's decision to invade Ukraine on 24 February.

Mr Putin has made several references to nuclear weapons since then, which some have interpreted as a warning to Western countries not to intervene.

Speaking in St Petersburg, Mr Putin also said Russia would help to modify Belarusian SU-25 warplanes so that they could carry nuclear weapons, in response to a query from Mr Lukashenko.

Source: Russia promises Belarus Iskander-M nuclear-capable missiles - BBC News

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