Russia Masses Military Equipment Near Ukraine Borders: A Prologue to WWIII?

[Occult1]

9 minutes ago, godnodog said:

I don't give a Boris Johnson about it, its 2022 veto powers should have gone away some time ago. I cam understand, for the time being and even so it's debatable, permanent seats.

That would probably lead to the end of the U.N.

If the U.S, Great Britain and France pass resolutions against Russia and China on world security issues, then what's preventing these two from breaking away and creating their own U.N.?

Edited July 7, 2022 by Occult1

[ThereWeAreThen]

16 minutes ago, Occult1 said:

That would probably lead to the end of the U.N.

If the U.S, Great Britain and France pass resolutions against Russia and China on world security issues, then what's preventing these two from breaking away and creating their own U.N.?

Let them do that then who cares? Nothing gets sorted in the UN anyway.

[Occult1]

3 minutes ago, ThereWeAreThen said:

Let them do that then who cares? Nothing gets sorted in the UN anyway.

Someone complained that the UNSC did not take action against Russia. So there are people who care.

[ThereWeAreThen]

Just now, Occult1 said:

Someone complained that the UNSC did not take action against Russia. So there are people who care.

Fair enough but I dont think the UN will take action. As a concept I like the idea of the UN but I just dont think it works as much as it should.

[Occult1]

Putin raises prospect of escalation in Ukraine, slams 'economic blitzkrieg against Russia'

''President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday that Russia had barely got started in Ukraine and dared the West to try to defeat it on the battlefield, while insisting that Moscow was still open to the idea of peace talks.

In a hawkish speech to parliamentary leaders more than four months into the war, Putin said the prospects for any negotiation would grow dimmer the longer the conflict dragged on.

"Today we hear that they want to defeat us on the battlefield. What can you say, let them try," he said.''

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-invasion-russia-day-134-1.6513436

[Likely Guy]

6 minutes ago, Occult1 said:

Putin raises prospect of escalation in Ukraine, slams 'economic blitzkrieg against Russia'

''President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday that Russia had barely got started in Ukraine and dared the West to try to defeat it on the battlefield, while insisting that Moscow was still open to the idea of peace talks.

In a hawkish speech to parliamentary leaders more than four months into the war, Putin said the prospects for any negotiation would grow dimmer the longer the conflict dragged on.

"Today we hear that they want to defeat us on the battlefield. What can you say, let them try," he said.''

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-invasion-russia-day-134-1.6513436

I hear a sabre rattling.

[Trelane]

2 hours ago, Occult1 said:

It's easy to forget that the UNSC was set up to address the conditions that lead to WW2 so that it never happen again...

The five permanent members were the five main Allied powers in WW2.

Unfortunately, one of the members has ripped pages directly out of the Axis power's playbook. Only they have nuclear weapons as a deterrent. 

Hypothetical question, what would the world's response be if the US decided it was going to "liberate' parts of British Columbia or the major parts of Ontario and the Maritimes? You know using similar statements about oppression and such.

[Likely Guy]

11 minutes ago, Trelane said:

Hypothetical question, what would the world's response be if the US decided it was going to "liberate' parts of British Columbia or the major parts of Ontario and the Maritimes? You know using similar statements about oppression and such.

Whoa! Hey, hey now!

[el midgetron]

10 hours ago, Helen of Annoy said:

RTL is TV station too. So you wanted to say that RTL originally reported it, then ntv picked it up, then Russian TASS climaxed over it? 

Anyway, my point stands. 

I completely missed your point. Was it that Russian media reported on a poll that was conducted by the German media? If that’s your point, so what?

And, no. RTL didn’t “originally report it”. RTL conducted the poll. Their subsidiary N-TV reported on it.

[godnodog]

8 hours ago, Occult1 said:

That would probably lead to the end of the U.N.

If the U.S, Great Britain and France pass resolutions against Russia and China on world security issues, then what's preventing these two from breaking away and creating their own U.N.?

Well this veto thing is working fine isn't? UN working fine juuuist fine isn't 

[Grim Reaper 6]

14 hours ago, Likely Guy said:

The UNSC is effectively neutered with Russia having a veto.

In reality who needs the UNSC in this situation the invasion was deemed illegal by the world court and the Russians are currently being charged with Crimes Against Humanity by THE HAGUE better known as The International Court of Justice (ICJ). So neutered is a very inaccurate term to use my friend!

[Grim Reaper 6]

11 hours ago, Trelane said:

Unfortunately, one of the members has ripped pages directly out of the Axis power's playbook. Only they have nuclear weapons as a deterrent. 

Hypothetical question, what would the world's response be if the US decided it was going to "liberate' parts of British Columbia or the major parts of Ontario and the Maritimes? You know using similar statements about oppression and such.

Um they would just say way cool dude, ok far out!

Edited July 8, 2022 by Manwon Lender

[Grim Reaper 6]

5 hours ago, godnodog said:

Well this veto thing is working fine isn't? UN working fine juuuist fine isn't 

That poor little fellow is a bit twisted but we wub him anyway!

[Grim Reaper 6]

13 hours ago, Occult1 said:

That would probably lead to the end of the U.N.

If the U.S, Great Britain and France pass resolutions against Russia and China on world security issues, then what's preventing these two from breaking away and creating their own U.N.?

Dude, wake up drink some coffee they can’t create a United Nations with two Nations buddy! 

[spud the mackem]

10 minutes ago, Manwon Lender said:

Dude, wake up drink some coffee they can’t create a United Nations with two Nations buddy! 

China is observing what is going on in Ukraine ,but sitting on the side lines , and although they say they are backing Russia , the aren't doing anything to help ,apart from buying up all the oil that they can get their hands on ,which is keeping Russia solvent . 

[Grim Reaper 6]

3 minutes ago, spud the mackem said:

China is observing what is going on in Ukraine ,but sitting on the side lines , and although they say they are backing Russia , the aren't doing anything to help ,apart from buying up all the oil that they can get their hands on ,which is keeping Russia solvent . 

You are certainly right my friend, however if they do jump in that’s when WW3 will actually begin and I don’t think many here actually realize that sadly. It’s not Russia to be concerned about at this point it’s China, because this would be the perfect time to Aline with Russia and then immediately invade Taiwan which would create a two front conflict war for NATO. This is the real threat because if WW3 starts it will be started here in Asia!

[Grim Reaper 6]

10 minutes ago, spud the mackem said:

China is observing what is going on in Ukraine ,but sitting on the side lines , and although they say they are backing Russia , the aren't doing anything to help ,apart from buying up all the oil that they can get their hands on ,which is keeping Russia solvent . 

By the way if haven’t seen this thread check it out, you may be surprised what is actually happening as we speak!

 

[spud the mackem]

2 minutes ago, Manwon Lender said:

You are certainly right my friend, however if they do jump in that’s when WW3 will actually begin and I don’t think many here actually realize that sadly. It’s not Russia to be concerned about at this point it’s China, because this would be the perfect time to Aline with Russia and then immediately invade Taiwan which would create a two front conflict war for NATO. This is the real threat because if WW3 starts it will be started here in Asia!

That is one of the reasons why China is not backing Russia in the Ukraine , they are waiting to see what happens , and the Chinese are noted for their patience , they just wait and wait until they think it's the right time to act , but to my knowledge when I went through the straits of Taiwan in 1958 on a British Merchant ship , we could see guns lined up on the Chinese side . (that's 64 yrs ago).

[spud the mackem]

11 minutes ago, Manwon Lender said:

By the way if haven’t seen this thread check it out, you may be surprised what is actually happening as we speak!

 

Another bluff by Russia as usual , they won't risk obliteration ,because they may last 30 minutes before those minarettes in Moscow are anihilated with all the major cities and military sites . The Big problem is that the World will end for everyone . I just hope that the Kremlin will stop the deranged lunatic premier from pressing the red button. 

[Grim Reaper 6]

15 minutes ago, spud the mackem said:

That is one of the reasons why China is not backing Russia in the Ukraine , they are waiting to see what happens , and the Chinese are noted for their patience , they just wait and wait until they think it's the right time to act , but to my knowledge when I went through the straits of Taiwan in 1958 on a British Merchant ship , we could see guns lined up on the Chinese side . (that's 64 yrs ago).

Well have l spent 34 years in military and other service for the United States, and I currently live here in South Korea. So I understand what you saying about Eastern Asians very very well been married to a beautiful Korean since 1986. Not much has changed since you came through here, except the tension in the air right now is like electricity and China is preparing to move on Taiwan, when exactly its anyones guess, but it’s coming soon my friend!

But, if Korea is attacked I can still fire a gun if need be I have been living on borrowed time since the 1990s, I should not even be typing this right now. But, hey if it becomes my time I can think of no better way to go, because my wife will be by my side and nothing is better than that!   

Edited July 8, 2022 by Manwon Lender

[Grim Reaper 6]

1 minute ago, spud the mackem said:

Another bluff by Russia as usual , they won't risk obliteration ,because they may last 30 minutes before those minarettes in Moscow are anihilated with all the major cities and military sites . The Big problem is that the World will end for everyone . I just hope that the Kremlin will stop the deranged lunatic premier from pressing the red button. 

Well there is no red button actually, Putins only job to tell his minions to launch. The question is will they obey the demented old dog or shoot him!

I think under the current circumstances they may shoot him!

[el midgetron]

ussian President Vladimir Putin accused the West of waging a proxy war in Ukraine on Thursday and said that the world should know the war is just beginning, nearly five months after launching the invasion. 

"Everybody should know that largely speaking, we haven’t even yet started anything in earnest," Putin told parliamentary leaders. 

"The course of history is unstoppable, and attempts by the collective West to enforce its version of the global order are doomed to fail."

https://www.foxnews.com/world/putin-claims-russia-war-ukraine-just-beginning

[el midgetron]

Russia has not paused its Donbas offensive, says Ukraine official

Russia is continuing its offensive into Ukraine’s eastern Donetsk region after capturing almost the entire neighbouring Luhansk region, according to the head of Ukraine-controlled Luhansk’s regional civil administration.

Serhiy Haidai told Ukraine’s United News he did not agree with recent western assessments that Russia had paused its offensive and was resting to regroup. The Institute for the Study of War, a Washington-based thinktank, and British military intelligence have both said in recent days that Russian forces are resting and taking time to reposition themselves for the next offensive.

“There has not been any kind of operational pause or reduction in shelling,” said Haidai. “Their attempts to advance forward are constant. They are putting in new units, including tank units.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/08/russia-has-not-paused-its-donbas-offensive-says-ukraine-official

[spud the mackem]

3 minutes ago, Manwon Lender said:

Well have l spent 34 years in military and other service for the United States, and I currently live here in South Korea. So I understand what you saying about Eastern Asians very very well been married to a beautiful Korean since 1986. Not much has changed since you came through here, except the tension in the air right now is like electricity and China is preparing to move on Taiwan, when exactly its anyones guess, but it’s coming soon my friend!

But, if Korea is attacked I can still fire a gun if need be I have been living on borrowed time since the 1990s, I should not even be typing this right now. But, hey if it becomes my time can think of a better way to go, because my wife will be by my side and nothing is better than that!   

South Korea is a beautiful Country ,and so are the people , you are lucky to live in that Country , I went to Busan years ago and was treated with respect and like the place . Best Wishes to you and yours my friend . P.s I've never fired a gun but have been shot at a few times ,in various parts of he World and survived .

[Grim Reaper 6]

14 minutes ago, spud the mackem said:

South Korea is a beautiful Country ,and so are the people , you are lucky to live in that Country , I went to Busan years ago and was treated with respect and like the place . Best Wishes to you and yours my friend . P.s I've never fired a gun but have been shot at a few times ,in various parts of he World and survived .

Hey thank you for the kind words, and best wishes to you and yours also! As far as never firing a gun or never killing anyone, well that’s blessing because no matter if it is justified or not killing another human leave memories that never fade and it’s not something I would wish on anyone!

Peace my friend !