Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 8, 2022 Author #8451 Share Posted July 8, 2022 22 minutes ago, el midgetron said: ussian President Vladimir Putin accused the West of waging a proxy war in Ukraine on Thursday and said that the world should know the war is just beginning, nearly five months after launching the invasion. "Everybody should know that largely speaking, we haven’t even yet started anything in earnest," Putin told parliamentary leaders. "The course of history is unstoppable, and attempts by the collective West to enforce its version of the global order are doomed to fail." https://www.foxnews.com/world/putin-claims-russia-war-ukraine-just-beginning Thanks for the post and the laugh, doomed to fail that’s hilarious! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Occult1 Posted July 8, 2022 #8452 Share Posted July 8, 2022 Ukraine Army repulses enemy offensive in Sloviansk direction ''In the area of Bohorodychne near Sloviansk, the Ukrainian troops inflicted losses on enemy forces as the latter attempted to go for another offensive. The enemy was forced to retreat, according to a morning update by the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. No significant changes in the composition and activity of Belarus forces in the border areas of Brest and Gomel regions were noted in the Volyn and Polissia directions.'' https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3524412-ukraine-army-repulses-enemy-offensive-in-sloviansk-direction.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen of Annoy Posted July 8, 2022 #8453 Share Posted July 8, 2022 (edited) Lavrov left G20 meeting early, after complaining that Russia was being called names. It's becoming typical for him, to show up, announce his feelings were hurt and leave, as if someone will miss him. Edited July 8, 2022 by Helen of Annoy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen of Annoy Posted July 8, 2022 #8454 Share Posted July 8, 2022 Putin repeated the mantra spammed all over the Internet, by his troll army, that the West wants to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian. So I will repeat what everyone sane says, that Russia is losing the war, in their own interpretation against NATO, while NATO didn't show up yet. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen of Annoy Posted July 8, 2022 #8455 Share Posted July 8, 2022 Mikhailo Podolyak, advisor to the head of Ukrainian presidential office, clarifies reality behind Putin's boasting that "Russia hasn't started yet". 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen of Annoy Posted July 8, 2022 #8456 Share Posted July 8, 2022 (edited) Ukrainian armed forces destroyed an enemy "warehouse" in Shakhtyorsk, Donetsk region. Wow. And wow!! And the mushroom too! Splendid. edit: and Nova Kakhovka too. It's not so spectacular video and has no grass for Cookie so I won't post the link. Avoiding sensory overload and stuff. one more edit: Shakhtyorsk detonations went on for more than 10 hours Edited July 8, 2022 by Helen of Annoy 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen of Annoy Posted July 8, 2022 #8457 Share Posted July 8, 2022 Video in the article. You can see why Ukraine has already won. https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3524817-zelensky-visits-frontline-positions-in-dnipropetrovsk-region-presents-awards-to-military.html President Volodymyr Zelensky has visited the frontline positions of the Ukrainian military in the Dnipropetrovsk region. "The frontline positions in the Dnipropetrovsk region. I spoke with our defenders, presented them with awards. Their mood is determined, confidence in our victory is in their eyes," Zelensky said 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen of Annoy Posted July 8, 2022 #8458 Share Posted July 8, 2022 https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-polytics/3524615-blinken-to-russian-delegation-ukraine-is-not-your-country-and-its-grain-is-not-your-grain.html In a closed-door session at the G20 Foreign Ministers’ Meeting in Bali, Indonesia, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken reminded the Russian delegation that Ukraine is a sovereign state. ... “To our Russian colleagues: Ukraine is not your country. Its grain is not your grain. Why are you blocking the ports? You should let the grain out,” Blinken said. Blinken also disparaged Moscow’s contributions to the World Food Program, noting that it has provided only a fifth of 1 percent of the donations to the organization. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Posted July 8, 2022 #8459 Share Posted July 8, 2022 44 minutes ago, Helen of Annoy said: Mikhailo Podolyak, advisor to the head of Ukrainian presidential office, clarifies reality behind Putin's boasting that "Russia hasn't started yet". It is possible Putin really only considers losses significant if they run into millions? If so, 37k dead is rightly "hardly started". I don't think modern Russians will put up with it though. I read today of a lot of draft dodging going on. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen of Annoy Posted July 8, 2022 #8460 Share Posted July 8, 2022 Orc-appeasers, you are accomplices in orc crimes. You better start claiming you've got disabilities and such. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted July 8, 2022 #8461 Share Posted July 8, 2022 4 hours ago, spud the mackem said: Another bluff by Russia as usual , they won't risk obliteration ,because they may last 30 minutes before those minarettes in Moscow are anihilated with all the major cities and military sites . The Big problem is that the World will end for everyone . I just hope that the Kremlin will stop the deranged lunatic premier from pressing the red button. The counter argument for that is so long as he doesn`t nuke the USA, Britain, or France, no one will nuke Russia back because we don`t want to sacrifice ourselves in our millions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Razman Posted July 8, 2022 #8462 Share Posted July 8, 2022 5 hours ago, spud the mackem said: China is observing what is going on in Ukraine ,but sitting on the side lines , and although they say they are backing Russia , the aren't doing anything to help ,apart from buying up all the oil that they can get their hands on ,which is keeping Russia solvent . Thats one reason why i wondered why i read that the US shipped millions of barrels of reserve oil to Asia in the last month. Doesn't seem neccessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Razman Posted July 8, 2022 #8463 Share Posted July 8, 2022 Yea nice group that Russia , illegally invade someone , go in and commit atrocities and war crimes , them threaten humanity with nuclear destruction if they are convicted of them. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen of Annoy Posted July 8, 2022 #8464 Share Posted July 8, 2022 17 minutes ago, The Silver Shroud said: It is possible Putin really only considers losses significant if they run into millions? If so, 37k dead is rightly "hardly started". I don't think modern Russians will put up with it though. I read today of a lot of draft dodging going on. I believe that on one hand, he didn't expect losses. He believed in own propaganda (superior Russians, forgetting that the best Russia and USSR had mostly came from Ukraine; gay and degenerated West cowering in fear). On the other hand, he's a narcissist and a psycho. Body count gives him the sense of importance. He won't stop because his own are dropping like flies, but he will eventually run out of imbeciles and will have to catch people in the street to forcefully toss them in the meat grinder. At that point, domestic fun in Russia will start. Hopefully, maybe, who knows. I'm so very sorry that the kind and sane among Russians, who never agreed with this, will suffer the consequences too. But wars of this type end when they come home. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe putler can drown any rebellion in blood, maybe Russians are a broken nation, but even in that case, they will still be next to useless on the front. As it was seen already, after all, any decent Russian was looking for ways to surrender to Ukrainians. Unfortunately, that was not always possible, with various kadirovites behind their backs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen of Annoy Posted July 8, 2022 #8465 Share Posted July 8, 2022 18 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said: The counter argument for that is so long as he doesn`t nuke the USA, Britain, or France, no one will nuke Russia back because we don`t want to sacrifice ourselves in our millions. Apparently, Putin doesn't share your opinion. He's certain the West would respond to any use of nuclear weapons, because if he wasn't certain about that, he'd literally nuke Kyiv by now. In other words, Putin is afraid. Serve him right. He could have enjoyed his wealth and cult of personality until the day he dies of natural causes, but noooo... he had to show to everyone that he's more cunning than the whole world combined. lol. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen of Annoy Posted July 8, 2022 #8466 Share Posted July 8, 2022 Of course I will post the already relatively old update from Ukraine by Denys There are those wonderful photos from Snake Island in there too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen of Annoy Posted July 8, 2022 #8467 Share Posted July 8, 2022 Interesting examples of Russian opinions, with English translation. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted July 8, 2022 #8468 Share Posted July 8, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Helen of Annoy said: He's certain the West would respond to any use of nuclear weapons, because if he wasn't certain about that, he'd literally nuke Kyiv by now. Could it also be that he doesn't want to irradiate land that he wants to claim? If he still thinks that there is hope for him to acquire territory, he would probably want to hold out on that until it's certain that he won't be able to. I suspect that the only time he'll start throwing nukes is when it's a case of "If I can't win, nobody else can, either". Edited July 8, 2022 by Nuclear Wessel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted July 8, 2022 #8469 Share Posted July 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Helen of Annoy said: Putin repeated the mantra spammed all over the Internet, by his troll army, that the West wants to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian. So I will repeat what everyone sane says, that Russia is losing the war, in their own interpretation against NATO, while NATO didn't show up yet. There is some truth to it. We are supplying weapons for the Ukraine to fight with. No solders though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen of Annoy Posted July 8, 2022 #8470 Share Posted July 8, 2022 (edited) The destruction of Russian "Pion" with the help of M777 (that's literal translation, what it means is that M777 destroyed Russian Pion) "Regards" from M777 Edited July 8, 2022 by Helen of Annoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen of Annoy Posted July 8, 2022 #8471 Share Posted July 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Myles said: There is some truth to it. We are supplying weapons for the Ukraine to fight with. No solders though. We are supplying weapons for Ukraine because Ukrainians are fighting for their lives. Russians are committing genocide. So there's no truth to the claim that the West is responsible for the Russian imperialist and genocidal war against Ukraine, or the fact that the war is still going on. Russia is the only guilty party here. They invaded a sovereign country, they are murdering civilians in their own Ukrainian homes. Western weapons save Ukrainian lives, by successfully blowing up Russian ammo and fuel depots, deep in orc-infested territory. Which American media is still peddling Russian talking points, by the way? You can tell me, I won't be surprised. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted July 8, 2022 #8472 Share Posted July 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, Helen of Annoy said: We are supplying weapons for Ukraine because Ukrainians are fighting for their lives. Russians are committing genocide. So there's no truth to the claim that the West is responsible for the Russian imperialist and genocidal war against Ukraine, or the fact that the war is still going on. Russia is the only guilty party here. They invaded a sovereign country, they are murdering civilians in their own Ukrainian homes. Western weapons save Ukrainian lives, by successfully blowing up Russian ammo and fuel depots, deep in orc-infested territory. Which American media is still peddling Russian talking points, by the way? You can tell me, I won't be surprised. What the heck are you talking about? I responded to this: that the West wants to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian. I said there is some truth to that. I wasn't wrong. The west DOES want to fight Russia. But they are doing it by using the people of Ukraine. I did not imply that the west was the instigator. We all know that Russia is at fault. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen of Annoy Posted July 8, 2022 #8473 Share Posted July 8, 2022 @The Silver Shroud If you haven't discovered 1420 yet: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen of Annoy Posted July 8, 2022 #8474 Share Posted July 8, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Myles said: What the heck are you talking about? I responded to this: that the West wants to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian. I said there is some truth to that. I wasn't wrong. The west DOES want to fight Russia. But they are doing it by using the people of Ukraine. I did not imply that the west was the instigator. We all know that Russia is at fault. The West wants to help Ukrainians last. (edit to clarify this accidentally Pythian sentence : the West wants to help Ukrainians last longer than the Russian aggressor.) The West is trying to help Ukraine because Russia is leading genocidal war against Ukrainians. Whoever claims that the West is fighting Russia to the last Ukrainian is (being able to comprehend that or not) parroting Russian talking points. Because it is Ukrainian decision to resist the genocide, if they didn't decide to do so, the West couldn't and wouldn't make them do anything. The West is not Russia to force people to fight. Edited July 8, 2022 by Helen of Annoy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen of Annoy Posted July 8, 2022 #8475 Share Posted July 8, 2022 33 minutes ago, Nuclear Wessel said: Could it also be that he doesn't want to irradiate land that he wants to claim? If he still thinks that there is hope for him to acquire territory, he would probably want to hold out on that until it's certain that he won't be able to. I suspect that the only time he'll start throwing nukes is when it's a case of "If I can't win, nobody else can, either". Russians have zero problems with irradiating land which will be used by the expendables. See Chornobyl example - Russia calmly let their own soldiers dig in the Red Forest. They're expendable, they'll send more of those. Russia doesn't care about lives of their own people. Yeah, Putin is the type to destroy rather than let anyone else have it, which is why he would nuke Ukraine if he wasn't afraid of western retaliation. He is not the type to commit suicide or make his own life any less luxurious and modern medicine available to him to the fullest extent. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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