Grim Reaper 6 Posted September 29, 2022 Author #14376 Share Posted September 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Occult1 said: I sympathize with both Ukrainians and Russians. I also think that there won't be peace without negotiations. But some people here prefer that the U.S./NATO fight it's proxy war with Russia to the last Ukrainian. Your comments across this thread prove otherwise, you claim to sympathize with both sides but even your comments above betray your comments. Blaming NATO for this conflict is disingenuous it’s very obvious where the blame should be placed, so please in the future at least be honest and standup for your true beliefs. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted September 29, 2022 #14377 Share Posted September 29, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Trelane said: Nothing says "Free Election" like masked men with AKs at the balloting offices. Sham isn't a good enough word for this nonsense. I agree. Nothing says "free election" like masked men with AKs at the balloting offices. Thank you for the photo. Can you post more photos? Edited September 29, 2022 by acidhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted September 29, 2022 #14378 Share Posted September 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, acidhead said: Thank you for the photo. Can you post more photos? Why? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Occult1 Posted September 29, 2022 #14379 Share Posted September 29, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, acidhead said: Thank you for the video. Is there more videos? All I see are security forces making sure there are no threats for the people casting their ballots. I'd think there would be a high probability of some individuals or groups wanting to disrupt the referendum process. Edited September 29, 2022 by Occult1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted September 29, 2022 #14380 Share Posted September 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, acidhead said: I agree. Nothing says "free election" like masked men with AKs at the balloting offices. Thank you for the photo. Can you post more photos? I think that one pretty much sums up the sham in the occupied areas. I don't see a need for others but if there are others released though I'll refer you the links as I find them. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted September 29, 2022 #14381 Share Posted September 29, 2022 A very successful mobilization if I say so myself. "Putin has succeeded in mobilising a Russian army on the borders... not to fight, but flee" https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-has-succeeded-in-mobilising-a-russian-army-on-the-borders-not-to-fight-but-flee/ar-AA12lrDF?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=5a7fea628c8347b1b28c057e4cef0ec9 "They bring what they can which isn't much, dragging their suitcases behind them. Some have dogs and others cat boxes. They are exhausted after a journey that has taken days, but all seem hugely relieved to have left Putin's Russia. One couple laughed with relief. "Very tired, but happy," said Katy. The relief seemed almost to overwhelm her." "Some are too scared to talk even outside of Russia, fearful of retribution against their families left behind. Others seize the opportunity to speak their mind, almost shaking with anger as they do." "Putin is a murderer," Vitaly told me with a smouldering fury." "We met only one man who had actually received call-up papers. 'Nick' is now on the run from authorities who want to send him to Ukraine to fight. His government "wants to make meat from me" he told us. He was a scientist and an engineer and has so much more than that he said to give to his country." 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted September 29, 2022 #14382 Share Posted September 29, 2022 7 minutes ago, Occult1 said: All I see are security forces making sure there are no threats for the people casting their ballots. I'd think there would be a high probability of some individuals or groups wanting to disrupt the referendum process. Why did you remove this part that you quoted, initially: "The vote is being heavily guarded by Russian or Russian-backed security forces, and with reason. Not only have Ukrainian forces been pushing the Russians and their separatist allies back in both the east and south, but attacks on figures associated with the Russian occupation have mounted." From this article Ukraine war: Final day of discredited voting in Russian-held Ukraine - BBC News 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted September 29, 2022 Author #14383 Share Posted September 29, 2022 26 minutes ago, Occult1 said: All I see are security forces making sure there are no threats for the people casting their ballots. I'd think there would be a high probability of some individuals or groups wanting to disrupt the referendum process. The individual in the photo above is a Russian Soldier armed with an AK47 looking straight at those voting, but it’s what I would expect you to say. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Occult1 Posted September 29, 2022 #14384 Share Posted September 29, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Nuclear Wessel said: Why did you remove this part that you quoted, initially: "The vote is being heavily guarded by Russian or Russian-backed security forces, and with reason. Not only have Ukrainian forces been pushing the Russians and their separatist allies back in both the east and south, but attacks on figures associated with the Russian occupation have mounted." From this article Ukraine war: Final day of discredited voting in Russian-held Ukraine - BBC News Did not think it was necessary to make my point, on second thought. But the BBC article still does explain very well why security forces were on guard, looking for threats. Edited September 29, 2022 by Occult1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted September 29, 2022 #14385 Share Posted September 29, 2022 36 minutes ago, Trelane said: I think that one pretty much sums up the sham in the occupied areas. I don't see a need for others but if there are others released though I'll refer you the links as I find them. There's only one photo released? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted September 29, 2022 #14386 Share Posted September 29, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, acidhead said: There's only one photo released? No there's more. Be proactive and search for yourself if you doubt it. Nobody likes a lazy skeptic. "Armed soldiers escort Ukraine voters in Russia's sham referendums as desperate Putin goes for land grab" https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/sham-referendums-ukraine/ Edited September 29, 2022 by Trelane 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted September 29, 2022 #14387 Share Posted September 29, 2022 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Trelane said: No there's more. Be proactive and search for yourself if you doubt it. Nobody likes a lazy skeptic. "Armed soldiers escort Ukraine voters in Russia's sham referendums as desperate Putin goes for land grab" https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/sham-referendums-ukraine/ Thank you. The video in the link there was posted by @DarkHunter a few hours ago. So far we've got 1 video and 1 photo. I've typed in the key words into Google images such as "armed, soldiers, rebels, Ukraine, occupied areas, elections, referendum " https://www.google.com/search?q=soldiers%2C+armed%2C+rebels%2C+ukraine%2C+occupied+areas%2C+elections%2C+referendum&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjk2N-Fq7n6AhWSHzQIHWYkCHMQ2-cCegQIABAC&oq=soldiers%2C+armed%2C+rebels%2C+Ukraine%2C+occupied+areas%2C+elections%2C+referendum&gs_lcp=ChJtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1pbWcQARgAMgQIIxAnUABYAGCiQWgAcAB4AIABQIgBQJIBATGYAQDAAQE&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-img&ei=GTY1Y6ToA5K_0PEP5sigmAc&bih=604&biw=412&client=ms-android-rogers-ca-revc Any suggestions what other key words to use to find more of these images? Edited September 29, 2022 by acidhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted September 29, 2022 #14388 Share Posted September 29, 2022 9 hours ago, DarkHunter said: Cause 2 heavily armed Chechen soldiers going door to door with referendum workers to get the votes of civilians wont be influencing the vote at all. I see a video of a guard escort for 2 women with a plastic container. Where is the evidence this is at a postal station and people are being forced to vote an indicated way? I could just as easily claim this is a guard escorting 2 women, one of who high value cheques which are going to be posted out. This is Twitter, trial by Twitter with all its fake videos is not valid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godnodog Posted September 29, 2022 #14389 Share Posted September 29, 2022 21 hours ago, ThereWeAreThen said: Omg they're comedy gold. Apparently, here in Portugal, local CNN broadcast this as a real news piece. To be honest it's not real cnn just a local joint venture with cnn branding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHunter Posted September 29, 2022 #14390 Share Posted September 29, 2022 43 minutes ago, acidhead said: Thank you. The video in the link there was posted by @DarkHunter a few hours ago. So far we've got 1 video and 1 photo. I've typed in the key words into Google images such as "armed, soldiers, rebels, Ukraine, occupied areas, elections, referendum " https://www.google.com/search?q=soldiers%2C+armed%2C+rebels%2C+ukraine%2C+occupied+areas%2C+elections%2C+referendum&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjk2N-Fq7n6AhWSHzQIHWYkCHMQ2-cCegQIABAC&oq=soldiers%2C+armed%2C+rebels%2C+Ukraine%2C+occupied+areas%2C+elections%2C+referendum&gs_lcp=ChJtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1pbWcQARgAMgQIIxAnUABYAGCiQWgAcAB4AIABQIgBQJIBATGYAQDAAQE&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-img&ei=GTY1Y6ToA5K_0PEP5sigmAc&bih=604&biw=412&client=ms-android-rogers-ca-revc Any suggestions what other key words to use to find more of these images? You are overthinking the search. Either type into google image search "Ukraine referendum vote" or "(oblast name) referendum vote". The pictures coming from pro-Russian sources generally are angled or cropped as to not show the soldiers. Another picture but this time from Lunetsk oblast of the referendum vote 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted September 29, 2022 #14391 Share Posted September 29, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, acidhead said: Any suggestions what other key words to use to find more of these images? You've either the mind of a child, or you're just being deliberately obtuse as an attempt to make some kind of subtextual point in which, for you, lack of evidence means that it didn't necessarily happen in the way everybody is suggesting. We can see right through your bullscheisse. Edited September 29, 2022 by Nuclear Wessel 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted September 29, 2022 #14392 Share Posted September 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, DarkHunter said: You are overthinking the search. Either type into google image search "Ukraine referendum vote" or "(oblast name) referendum vote". The pictures coming from pro-Russian sources generally are angled or cropped as to not show the soldiers. Another picture but this time from Lunetsk oblast of the referendum vote He's not overthinking anything. I know what he's trying to do. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted September 29, 2022 #14393 Share Posted September 29, 2022 57 minutes ago, acidhead said: Thank you. The video in the link there was posted by @DarkHunter a few hours ago. So far we've got 1 video and 1 photo. I've typed in the key words into Google images such as "armed, soldiers, rebels, Ukraine, occupied areas, elections, referendum " https://www.google.com/search?q=soldiers%2C+armed%2C+rebels%2C+ukraine%2C+occupied+areas%2C+elections%2C+referendum&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjk2N-Fq7n6AhWSHzQIHWYkCHMQ2-cCegQIABAC&oq=soldiers%2C+armed%2C+rebels%2C+Ukraine%2C+occupied+areas%2C+elections%2C+referendum&gs_lcp=ChJtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1pbWcQARgAMgQIIxAnUABYAGCiQWgAcAB4AIABQIgBQJIBATGYAQDAAQE&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-img&ei=GTY1Y6ToA5K_0PEP5sigmAc&bih=604&biw=412&client=ms-android-rogers-ca-revc Any suggestions what other key words to use to find more of these images? There's photos in the linked article. tsk, tsk lazy bones. I have no suggestions , you're simply being obtuse at this point. Have a good rest of your evening. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHunter Posted September 29, 2022 #14394 Share Posted September 29, 2022 37 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said: I see a video of a guard escort for 2 women with a plastic container. Where is the evidence this is at a postal station and people are being forced to vote an indicated way? I could just as easily claim this is a guard escorting 2 women, one of who high value cheques which are going to be posted out. This is Twitter, trial by Twitter with all its fake videos is not valid. Do you really want to play this game and get your nose rubbed into being wrong again. First off where are you getting postal station. The video was from a security camera in an apartment building. Secondly look closely at the plastic container the woman is holding. It is very similar to these plastic containers from Donetsk oblast. Then there is this video, particularly at approximately 2:30 mark The guy is carrying the same kind of plastic container as from the twitter video and also has a heavily armed Chechen guards with them. There are multiple pictures and videos online of poll workers carrying those plastic containers to polling sites or going door to door to get votes with heavily armed Russian troops yet you try to deny that the evidence is real, saying it's just fake videos. I'm going to make this very clear, you are potentially the most sad and pathetic person I have had to deal with on this site. You are defending a nation that has done multiple massacres of civilians, used rape as a weapon of war, and broke just about every part of every Geneva convention. When presented with evidence that shows Russia committing war crimes, showing how the referendums are fraudulent and illegitimate, or even just the Russian military being defeated by Ukraine you just claim the pictures and videos are fake. Also who controls Odessa and Mykolaiv as of today and what happened to that massive Russian offensive that was suppose to capture both during the middle/end of summer. 1 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nuclear Wessel Posted September 29, 2022 #14395 Share Posted September 29, 2022 1 minute ago, DarkHunter said: Also who controls Odessa and Mykolaiv as of today and what happened to that massive Russian offensive that was suppose to capture both during the middle/end of summer. I always laugh when I see this LOL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHunter Posted September 29, 2022 #14396 Share Posted September 29, 2022 @Golden Duck You are really going to like cookie monster's post claiming that the evidence of heavily armed Russian soldiers is just fake evidence despite all the videos and pictures out on the internet showing its true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHunter Posted September 29, 2022 #14397 Share Posted September 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Nuclear Wessel said: I always laugh when I see this LOL I know he will never answer but it seems to make him disappear for a bit 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted September 29, 2022 #14398 Share Posted September 29, 2022 16 minutes ago, DarkHunter said: You are overthinking the search. Either type into google image search "Ukraine referendum vote" or "(oblast name) referendum vote". The pictures coming from pro-Russian sources generally are angled or cropped as to not show the soldiers. Another picture but this time from Lunetsk oblast of the referendum vote Thank you for the tip. I'll see what happens and post the results. No offense but that's the same photo @Trelane provided in post #14377. So far we have 1 video, posted twice and 1 photo also posted twice. Edit to add: the following photo was in the link @Trelaneprovided on post #14390. The photo is on the bottom right. This brings the total to 1 video and 2 photos so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThereWeAreThen Posted September 29, 2022 #14399 Share Posted September 29, 2022 18 minutes ago, DarkHunter said: Do you really want to play this game and get your nose rubbed into being wrong again. First off where are you getting postal station. The video was from a security camera in an apartment building. Secondly look closely at the plastic container the woman is holding. It is very similar to these plastic containers from Donetsk oblast. Then there is this video, particularly at approximately 2:30 mark The guy is carrying the same kind of plastic container as from the twitter video and also has a heavily armed Chechen guards with them. There are multiple pictures and videos online of poll workers carrying those plastic containers to polling sites or going door to door to get votes with heavily armed Russian troops yet you try to deny that the evidence is real, saying it's just fake videos. I'm going to make this very clear, you are potentially the most sad and pathetic person I have had to deal with on this site. You are defending a nation that has done multiple massacres of civilians, used rape as a weapon of war, and broke just about every part of every Geneva convention. When presented with evidence that shows Russia committing war crimes, showing how the referendums are fraudulent and illegitimate, or even just the Russian military being defeated by Ukraine you just claim the pictures and videos are fake. Also who controls Odessa and Mykolaiv as of today and what happened to that massive Russian offensive that was suppose to capture both during the middle/end of summer. You realise this is cookie you're talking to? I'm actually glad hes got me on ignore dont have to interact with him. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted September 29, 2022 #14400 Share Posted September 29, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, acidhead said: Thank you for the tip. I'll see what happens and post the results. No offense but that's the same photo @Trelane provided in post #14377. So far we have 1 video, posted twice and 1 photo also posted twice. Edit to add: the following photo was in the link @Trelaneprovided on post #14390. The photo is on the bottom right. This brings the total to 1 video and 2 photos so far. One question, how many photos do you think the Russians would honestly allow out? If I'm going to threaten people to submit votes I would be very careful that my violent coercive tactics aren't on camera. the Russians are lazy so it's expected some photos might find their way onto the internet. They are out there and no matter what your trolling mind thinks it is happening unfortunately. Also, I've known what you're attempting to do and quite frankly it's a bit silly. Edited September 29, 2022 by Trelane 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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