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Russia Masses Military Equipment Near Ukraine Borders: A Prologue to WWIII?


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1 minute ago, Nuclear Wessel said:

I always laugh when I see this LOL

I know he will never answer but it seems to make him disappear for a bit

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16 minutes ago, DarkHunter said:

You are overthinking the search.

Either type into google image search "Ukraine referendum vote" or "(oblast name) referendum vote".  The pictures coming from pro-Russian sources generally are angled or cropped as to not show the soldiers.

Another picture but this time from Lunetsk oblast of the referendum vote

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 Thank you for the tip. I'll see what happens and post the results. 

No offense but that's the same photo @Trelane provided in post #14377. 

So far we have 1 video, posted twice and 1 photo also posted twice. 

Edit to add: the following photo was in the link  @Trelaneprovided on post #14390. The photo is on the bottom right. 

This brings the total to 1 video and 2 photos so far. 

 

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18 minutes ago, DarkHunter said:

Do you really want to play this game and get your nose rubbed into being wrong again.

First off where are you getting postal station.  The video was from a security camera in an apartment building.

Secondly look closely at the plastic container the woman is holding.  It is very similar to these plastic containers from Donetsk oblast.

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Then there is this video, particularly at approximately 2:30 mark

The guy is carrying the same kind of plastic container as from the twitter video and also has a heavily armed Chechen guards with them.

There are multiple pictures and videos online of poll workers carrying those plastic containers to polling sites or going door to door to get votes with heavily armed Russian troops yet you try to deny that the evidence is real, saying it's just fake videos.

I'm going to make this very clear, you are potentially the most sad and pathetic person I have had to deal with on this site.  You are defending a nation that has done multiple massacres of civilians, used rape as a weapon of war, and broke just about every part of every Geneva convention.  When presented with evidence that shows Russia committing war crimes, showing how the referendums are fraudulent and illegitimate, or even just the Russian military being defeated by Ukraine you just claim the pictures and videos are fake.  

Also who controls Odessa and Mykolaiv as of today and what happened to that massive Russian offensive that was suppose to capture both during the middle/end of summer.

You realise this is cookie you're talking to? I'm actually glad hes got me on ignore dont have to interact with him. :lol:

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11 minutes ago, acidhead said:

 Thank you for the tip. I'll see what happens and post the results. 

No offense but that's the same photo @Trelane provided in post #14377. 

So far we have 1 video, posted twice and 1 photo also posted twice. 

Edit to add: the following photo was in the link  @Trelaneprovided on post #14390. The photo is on the bottom right. 

This brings the total to 1 video and 2 photos so far. 

 

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One question, how many photos do you think the Russians would honestly allow out? If I'm going to threaten people to submit votes I would be very careful that my violent coercive tactics aren't on camera. the Russians are lazy so it's expected some photos might find their way onto the internet. They are out there and no matter what your trolling mind thinks it is happening unfortunately.

Also, I've known what you're attempting to do and quite frankly it's a bit silly. 

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7 minutes ago, DarkHunter said:

@Golden Duck

You are really going to like cookie monster's post claiming that the evidence of heavily armed Russian soldiers is just fake evidence despite all the videos and pictures out on the internet showing its true.

You can provide better links than Twitter can't you?  You seem to feel you are beyond question and no one should ask you to provide your sources.

Having said that I understand that armed guards are not without precedent to ensure fair elections and safety of voters.  Leading up to the first elections in East Timor voters hid from militias lest they have their fingers cut off thereby preventing them from voting.

The like indicated an agreement with the request for a better source.  Sure, the information you initially provide might indeed be correct.  But why is every request met with such insecurity?

If I gave you alike would you feel better?

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16 minutes ago, Trelane said:

One question, how many photos do you think the Russians would honestly allow out? If I'm going to threaten people to submit votes I would be very careful that my violent coercive tactics aren't on camera. the Russians are lazy so it's expected some photos might find their way onto the internet. They are out there and no matter what your trolling mind thinks it is happening unfortunately.

Also, I've known what you're attempting to do and quite frankly it's a bit silly. 

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Thanks for these photos. I've also managed to find a couple. 

Just curious...  

What is it I'm attempting to do?  

 

 

 

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Armed troops going door to door? yes, very free elections indeed.  Deploying Chechen troops to assist as well. Oh Vladdy, you think you're oh so clever don't you?:lol:

"Russia poised to annex 4 Ukraine regions after ‘sham’ referendum"

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/9/28/russia-set-to-annex-ukraine-regions-after-sham-vote

"Armed troops had gone door-to-door with election officials to collect ballots in five days of voting in Russian-occupied regions that make up about 15 percent of Ukrainian territory."

"The suspiciously high margins in favour were widely characterised as a bogus land grab by an increasingly cornered Russian leadership following recent military losses in Kharkiv in northern Ukraine."

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So a question to those of you who feel that these referendums are fair and democratic…

If the results came out in favour of remaining part of Ukraine, do you think Putin would order the withdrawal of his forces from those regions?

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48 minutes ago, acidhead said:

What is it I'm attempting to do?  

I laid it out pretty clearly in a previous response to you. Not surprised that you didn't address it.

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1 hour ago, Golden Duck said:

You can provide better links than Twitter can't you?  You seem to feel you are beyond question and no one should ask you to provide your sources.

Having said that I understand that armed guards are not without precedent to ensure fair elections and safety of voters.  Leading up to the first elections in East Timor voters hid from militias lest they have their fingers cut off thereby preventing them from voting.

The like indicated an agreement with the request for a better source.  Sure, the information you initially provide might indeed be correct.  But why is every request met with such insecurity?

If I gave you alike would you feel better?

Dude come on...

Where exactly think info comes from? Do you think western media have free access to the region? Maybe  you think there is some international reputable institution monitoring this?!

Or maybe you think russian controlled news outlets will show this?

Those who are in the region and put the information and images do it at risk of death.

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Bit of math (I'm using russky sources, so they are in russky).

After counting 56.85% of ballots there were 94.75% 'Yes' votes (source #1)

After counting 82% of ballots there were 99.06% 'Yes' votes (source #2)

Kinda looks ok, but...

Lets assume, for the sake of simplicity, there were 1000000 voters total.

Now after counting 56.85% (568500 votes), there were 538654 (94.75%) 'Yes' votes, means there were 29846 'No'/invalid ballots.

After counting 82% (820000 votes), there were 812292 (99.06%) 'Yes' votes, means there were, wait for it... just 7708 'No'/invalid ballots.:lol:

Thats how you catch cheater:lol:

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16 minutes ago, godnodog said:

Dude come on...

Where exactly think info comes from? Do you think western media have free access to the region? Maybe  you think there is some international reputable institution monitoring this?!

Or maybe you think russian controlled news outlets will show this?

Those who are in the region and put the information and images do it at risk of death.

Don't get peoples issues with sources from social media. Yes there is crap on there but when you filter through the crap you can get good info. Bare in mind billions of people globally use social media.

Apart from nuclear weapons, social media is the most powerful tool humanity has made.

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28 minutes ago, godnodog said:

Dude come on...

Where exactly think info comes from? Do you think western media have free access to the region? Maybe  you think there is some international reputable institution monitoring this?!

Or maybe you think russian controlled news outlets will show this?

Those who are in the region and put the information and images do it at risk of death.

Yet when pushed, more information came.  What's the big issue with asking for a other sources?

How are we able to get information from Burma?

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1 hour ago, Grey Area said:

So a question to those of you who feel that these referendums are fair and democratic…

If the results came out in favour of remaining part of Ukraine, do you think Putin would order the withdrawal of his forces from those regions?

That is a brilliant question.

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It doesn't really matter whether the photos of the referendum are convincing or not.  Russia doesn't get to decide a referendum in another country's territory.  The 4 regions belong to the Ukraine and are currently being annexed illegally by Russia.  All Putin is trying to do is use this Referendum as propaganda towards Russians back home to show that NATO is attacking ethnic Russians that want to be part of Russia, the motherland.  He's probably trying to encourage feelings of patriotism amongst his reserves. 

I doubt that even he believes, NATO or the Ukraine will change their approach towards the war just because of some ridiculous referendum.

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4 minutes ago, Black Red Devil said:

It doesn't really matter whether the photos of the referendum are convincing or not.  Russia doesn't get to decide a referendum in another country's territory.  The 4 regions belong to the Ukraine and are currently being annexed illegally by Russia.  All Putin is trying to do is use this Referendum as propaganda towards Russians back home to show that NATO is attacking ethnic Russians that want to be part of Russia, the motherland.  He's probably trying to encourage feelings of patriotism amongst his reserves. 

I doubt that even he believes, NATO or the Ukraine will change their approach towards the war just because of some ridiculous referendum.

So do you think that would give Putler justification to hit NATO? If he gets that stupid.

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7 minutes ago, ThereWeAreThen said:

So do you think that would give Putler justification to hit NATO? If he gets that stupid.

I don't think he would need much justification, personally.

I do think he is going to try something extremely dumb and escalatory quite soon, though.

The way I see it, he is attempting to convince himself/his cronies that NATO is pushing him into a corner and forcing his hand, so to speak, when it's his own actions that are causing retaliatory escalations. I'm pretty sure he knows that he's done for but is doing anything and everything he can to remove all sense of accountability for his actions; it's a pride/ego thing.

"You made me do this!"

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50 minutes ago, Golden Duck said:

Yet when pushed, more information came.  What's the big issue with asking for a other sources?

How are we able to get information from Burma?

Absolutely no issue at all friend, but on this very specific case it's highly unlikely (IMO) that you will see direct report for western news outlets. This is bs from Russia

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No doubt the vote result shouldn't be taken seriously.

I am curious, are there any reports of people who voted against Russia, being harmed?   I'm just not sure how far Russia would go with their armed guards threat. 

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34 minutes ago, ThereWeAreThen said:

So do you think that would give Putler justification to hit NATO? If he gets that stupid.

That's his threat but only gullible Russians believe this type of propaganda.  Would he do it?  I highly doubt it, but he is backed into a corner at the moment so panic and irrational decisions are a possibility.  My hope is there's enough brass in Russia that can counter-measure his decisions at crucial moments.

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3 hours ago, acidhead said:

Thanks for these photos. I've also managed to find a couple. 

Just curious...  

What is it I'm attempting to do?  

You are "sealioning".

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Putin to make a speech tomorrow and declare the annexation of the 4 regions Tomorrow 

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