Russia Masses Military Equipment Near Ukraine Borders: A Prologue to WWIII?

[Helen of Annoy]

 

Oh, it's sensitive, huh? 

So let me help plastering it all over Internet. 

(Videos in the comments on the link, pure "meanwhile in russia" material.)

 

 

Spoiler: that thing is totally going to crash through the roof  especially if it fires  

Physics has notorious anti-russian bias  

Edited January 19, 2023 by Helen of Annoy

[Helen of Annoy]

 

[Helen of Annoy]

 

Serbian president is repenting in public too... made it clear that no expansion of russia could or would be recognized. 

russian ship is sinking 

[Helen of Annoy]

Zelensky mentioned that it's not certain that poopler is still alive. 

While it's not immensely important, because poopler is the result of russia, not the other way around, so nothing crucial will change with his death, it's still extremely interesting. How did he die? When? How long will doubles be used to cover for his death? Permanently? etc. 

[Helen of Annoy]

ololololol... russian denazificator with Nazi tatoos, but the more hilarious is the makeup he's wearing. It'll heal in couple of days. Very lucky b******. And how polite he is now... such a sudden change of character, it's must be a proper miracle.   

https://twitter.com/JayinKyiv/status/1616015223093067776

 

[odas]

24 minutes ago, Helen of Annoy said:

 

Serbian president is repenting in public too... made it clear that no expansion of russia could or would be recognized. 

russian ship is sinking 

Yes, sinking big time. Leaders of countries that supported directly or indirectly the russian attack are experiencing troubles at home, conected or not to the russian invasion. Now they let russia sink.

So, all the help that was sent and keeps on provided to Ukraine, was and is not for nothing.

[odas]

24 minutes ago, Helen of Annoy said:

Zelensky mentioned that it's not certain that poopler is still alive. 

While it's not immensely important, because poopler is the result of russia, not the other way around, so nothing crucial will change with his death, it's still extremely interesting. How did he die? When? How long will doubles be used to cover for his death? Permanently? etc. 

I read his statement too today. Makes me wonder if there is some truth to it.

[Helen of Annoy]

9 minutes ago, odas said:

I read his statement too today. Makes me wonder if there is some truth to it.

I've been wondering for a while now, if poopler is still alive. He was visibly very sick physically and also he realized what gigantic, irreversible mistakes he made. It's the ultimate stress. It can kill someone who is one foot in the grave and on a rollerskate with the other (jednom nogom u grobu a drugom na rolšuhi  )

Imagine being one of poopler's doubles now  

The kremlin can go on without actual poopler, of course. Lavrov is zooming around like he's on the rollerskates... yup, he's in panic too. Medvedev and Moscow patriarch (and Solovyov but he does that every week) stated in public that if russia loses the world will end. Which is an admission that they too noticed russia is about to lose. The world of course won't end, but their world is ending indeed. Serve them right. 

What a cautionary tale. Will be told for centuries. When russians thought they can take Kyiv in 3 days and then lie their way out of defeat. 

[+Noteverythingisaconspiracy]

2 hours ago, DarkHunter said:

 Denmark is sending self propelled howitzers. 

Those CAESAR howitzers are so new that we haven't even had any delivered yet. Now they go straight to ukraine instead.

France have allready sent some to Ukraine, so they allready know how to operate them.

[+and-then]

2 hours ago, Occult1 said:

Is Russia implying nuke if Crimea is under attack? In any case, how long should this madness be allowed to go on?

"Allowed to go on"?  Who's going to step back?  Putin seems to believe he can "win" and DC's scummiest are getting filthy rich off Ukrainian and Russian suffering.  No one has any incentive to stop.  Everyone in the bureaucracy and the DC chattering class are convinced Russia can be forcibly expelled from Crimea and Putin's LIFE depends on holding on to most of the territory he unilaterally claimed last September.  So... the band plays on as we watch a slow-motion escalation toward the unthinkable.  It has reached the point of the surreal.  

I just hope that if the stupidity and greed in DC causes a nuke exchange, I live long enough to hear that DC has become a glowing hole in the ground.  Fair is fair, after all... 

[Occult1]

2 hours ago, Stiff said:

 

2 hours ago, Occult1 said:

Crimea, which is internationally recognized as part of Ukraine

The U.S. currently supports countries that are occupying territories.

Northern Cyprus is occupied by Turkey and has been condemned by the international community.

The Gaza strip, the Golan Heights, West Bank and East Jerusalem are also illegally occupied by Israel.

I don't see you throwing a fit over that. Do you support NATO handing back these territories to who they rightfully belong?

There is no reason to provoke Russia into WW3 over Crimea. Any sane, rational person can understand that.

Edited January 19, 2023 by Occult1

[Trelane]

19 minutes ago, and-then said:

"Allowed to go on"?  Who's going to step back?  Putin seems to believe he can "win" and DC's scummiest are getting filthy rich off Ukrainian and Russian suffering.  No one has any incentive to stop.  Everyone in the bureaucracy and the DC chattering class are convinced Russia can be forcibly expelled from Crimea and Putin's LIFE depends on holding on to most of the territory he unilaterally claimed last September.  So... the band plays on as we watch a slow-motion escalation toward the unthinkable.  It has reached the point of the surreal.  

I just hope that if the stupidity and greed in DC causes a nuke exchange, I live long enough to hear that DC has become a glowing hole in the ground.  Fair is fair, after all... 

That's a pretty irresponsible post. To wish for nuclear war is silly and totally unnecessary.

[Trelane]

13 minutes ago, Occult1 said:

The U.S. currently supports countries that are occupying territories.

Northern Cyprus is occupied by Turkey and has been condemned by the international community.

The Gaza strip, the Golan Heights, West Bank and East Jerusalem are also illegally occupied by Israel.

There is no reason to provoke Russia into WW3 over Crimea. Any sane, rational person can understand that.

Nice job trying to redirect again. Please stay focused on the topic at hand. Russia illegally invaded another sovereign nation unprovoked. Subsequently killing, raping and torturing uncounted Ukrainian civilians. Stay on topic and stop trying to derail with these sidebars. If you want to discuss those, start another thread please.

[odas]

10 minutes ago, Trelane said:

That's a pretty irresponsible post. To wish for nuclear war is silly and totally unnecessary.

Don't even bother responding to his posts. Not even a shrink can help him anymore.

[+and-then]

12 minutes ago, Trelane said:

That's a pretty irresponsible post. To wish for nuclear war is silly and totally unnecessary.

Irresponsible to want those who caused the destruction of my nation and family to pay their dues too?  I disagree.  I also think you are confusing an opinion with a threat.  For the record, I don't have any spare nukes laying about.  Oh, and don't misstate my words.  I have never "wished for nuclear war".  Go back and read what I wrote and stop misrepresenting it.

[Occult1]

Lavrov says Russia will "sober up" NATO and EU

''Jan 19 (Reuters) - Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Thursday that Moscow would do all it could to "sober up" the European Union and NATO, which he accused of setting out to weaken and defeat Russia.

His comments came on the same day that former Russian president Dmitry Medvedev warned NATO that a defeat for Russia in Ukraine could trigger a nuclear war.

Nearly 11 months after invading Ukraine, Russia is increasingly presenting the war to its own people as an existential battle with the West. In televised comments, Lavrov said Moscow would set out to disabuse Western politicians of their "presumptuous" and "colonial" attitudes to Russia.''

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/lavrov-says-russia-will-sober-up-nato-eu-2023-01-19/

 

Are we playing a dangerous game by undermining Russia?

[+and-then]

2 hours ago, Helen of Annoy said:

It's eating you alive, huh?  Good. 

Aunty, I'd say the evidence of who is and isn't consumed on this issue is pretty clear.  Your post count on this thread probably sets a record in the 10 years or so I've been here.  I stopped paying much attention to it at about the time I twigged to how much our lying, slandering, western media was pushing it as a narrative. 

FTR, I don't hate either one of those populations.  I also don't feel responsible for the suffering of either one.  You, and probably half a dozen others here seem to have lost all perspective in your joy over the deaths of "orcs".  Dehumanizing is the first step on the road to genocide but I guess genocide is only bad if you don't hate those who are dying.  Innit?  

[Occult1]

16 minutes ago, and-then said:

Irresponsible to want those who caused the destruction of my nation and family to pay their dues too?  I disagree.  I also think you are confusing an opinion with a threat.  For the record, I don't have any spare nukes laying about.  Oh, and don't misstate my words.  I have never "wished for nuclear war".  Go back and read what I wrote and stop misrepresenting it.

Russia clearly said that a defeat in Ukraine would trigger a nuclear war. But then we are the ones accused on being unreasonable for questioning our leaders' policies.

Edited January 19, 2023 by Occult1

[+and-then]

2 minutes ago, Occult1 said:

Are we playing a dangerous game by undermining Russia?

That game has been going on for a couple of decades.  I think the end-game is in sight and with the west's leadership emanating from DC, it's more dangerous now than ever.  These fools have convinced themselves they can cause regime change as well as pushing Russia totally out of Crimea.  In fact, they seem to no longer have any doubts.  

[Stiff]

8 minutes ago, Occult1 said:

Russia clearly said that a defeat in Ukraine would trigger a nuclear war.

russia clearly say an awful lot of things. Trouble is, they're well know for not telling the truth and constantly spouting BS. Just like their followers.

[+and-then]

18 minutes ago, Occult1 said:

Russia clearly said that a defeat in Ukraine would trigger a nuclear war. But then we are the ones accused on being unreasonable for questioning our leaders' policies.

Yes, that has been said.  In fact, that not so subtle statement has been alluded to so often now that those in DC and Brussels no longer give it any credit for being real.  They, like several here, actually have come to believe that this war can be "won" and Putin and his nation crushed and humbled in front of the world.  IMO, that belief is as dangerous as Russian threats of using nukes.  It has slowly developed into a pattern of escalation that resembles a high stakes game of poker.  All it will take is one mistake.

[DarkHunter]

12 hours ago, and-then said:

You seem to be invested in Ukraine's victory, regardless the potential cost to the rest of the world.  I'm NOT.  I have no obligation to be interrogated about my beliefs by you or anyone else here.  I made it QUITE CLEAR that I'm no expert and that I am sharing my OPINIONS.  Not sure why having someone simply disagreeing with the party line here is cause to need to somehow prove their opinions are not only wrong but somehow suspect.  You and most of the other regular crowd here are totally convinced that Ukraine is going to win this.  So... why the need to try to tear down a dissenting OPINION?  

So you are fine with interrogating others but when you start getting asked questions suddenly no obligation to answer.  It is interesting in why you just wont answer the simple question how many times does colonel MacGregor have to be wrong before you stop accepting him as a reliable source.  Colonel MacGregor said on the third day of the invasion that Ukraine had 24 hours to surrender or they would be completely destroyed, then a few days later he said in 10 days Ukraine would be completely destroyed if they didnt surrender.  He also said Russia was being too soft during the first 5 days of the invasion, guess mass graves and attempted genocide are soft for him.  In mid March he said how the Ukranian military had been ground to bits and they would soon be forced to accept a ceasefire.  Shortly before Kherson was liberated he was saying how Russia was about to take Odessa and make Ukraine a land locked country.  It's just interesting you wont answer a simple question but it seems that is largely due to you not carrying if he is right or wrong as long as it's a criticism against the ones you dont like.  

You have definitely shown you are certainly no expert but you have made a rather large mistake.  It's not tearing down a dissenting opinion its calling out stuff that is factually wrong and borderline on Russian propaganda and misinformation.

12 hours ago, and-then said:

It's patently childish to need to discredit any opinion that deviates from what you believe but that's precisely where roughly 85% of the respondents here, are on this topic.  You believe he's a fool, good for you.  You have nothing to worry about then, eh?  Go team blue/yellow, and saliva unicorn, hoo rah...

Getting very defensive when you get called out.  Once again it's not discrediting an opinion its calling out and showing what is factually incorrect along with what is blatantly a call for Russian appeasement, cause historically appeasement has worked out so well before.

Edited January 19, 2023 by DarkHunter

[Unusual Tournament]

10 minutes ago, and-then said:

Yes, that has been said.  In fact, that not so subtle statement has been alluded to so often now that those in DC and Brussels no longer give it any credit for being real.  They, like several here, actually have come to believe that this war can be "won" and Putin and his nation crushed and humbled in front of the world.  IMO, that belief is as dangerous as Russian threats of using nukes.  It has slowly developed into a pattern of escalation that resembles a high stakes game of poker.  All it will take is one mistake.

It astounds me how people, politicians live their lives with no thought to assess risks. Calling 000 (911) or getting a domestic violence order on Putin is not where this ends

[Helen of Annoy]

3 hours ago, and-then said:

"Allowed to go on"?  Who's going to step back?  Putin seems to believe he can "win" and DC's scummiest are getting filthy rich off Ukrainian and Russian suffering.  No one has any incentive to stop.  Everyone in the bureaucracy and the DC chattering class are convinced Russia can be forcibly expelled from Crimea and Putin's LIFE depends on holding on to most of the territory he unilaterally claimed last September.  So... the band plays on as we watch a slow-motion escalation toward the unthinkable.  It has reached the point of the surreal.  

I just hope that if the stupidity and greed in DC causes a nuke exchange, I live long enough to hear that DC has become a glowing hole in the ground.  Fair is fair, after all... 

So in your mind only Democrats own companies and shares of military industry? That's pretty bizarre belief. 

Oh, russian suffering? It didn't occur to you that russians can simply **** off back to their ****hole country? They are not suffering enough. I hope DC can help fix that.  

russia will be tossed out of Crimea. Crimea river and make a nuclear threat too. 

Oh, you already did... by funny coincidence, it's all russians ever do... waffle about nuking the world. So, bring it on. Let's see whose air defence is better. (Spoiler: russia just lifted a Pantsir up to the MoD office building, using a crane.)

All in all, you betted on the wrongest possible horse, the dead russian one. Serve you right. 

[Helen of Annoy]

2 hours ago, Occult1 said:

 

Are we playing a dangerous game by undermining Russia?

russia undermined itself. The West didn't do anything. Yet. 

Also, because of russian constant terrorist threats, clearly that terrorist state is a security problem for the entire world. Destroying it (geopolitically) is the only logical course of action  But that's something poopler did, accidentally but thoroughly.