Russia Masses Military Equipment Near Ukraine Borders: A Prologue to WWIII?

[Helen of Annoy]

 

It's amazing how much I don't care for political nuances while russian ****ing aggression is still ongoing. 

One of the tell tale signs of russian assets is their need to insist on political differences within their nations and between the allies. Because the basis of russian plan for weakening and destroying the West is dividing Western societies. 

[Helen of Annoy]

All right, moskvichi, you can come out now and post your incel stuff. I'm off to bed. 

[spud the mackem]

On 1/20/2023 at 10:06 PM, DarkHunter said:

Russian offensive tactics have devolved to unprotected infantry charges over open terrain.

From what I understand that is a picture taken by Ukranian forces of an attempted Russian attack along the Zaporizhzhia front.

WW1 tactics , only crazy commanders would do this to their troops , absolutely insane ,gain nothing and have your troops eliminated .

[spud the mackem]

4 hours ago, Helen of Annoy said:

 

No, it's just Scholz pulling back from having a career in politics.

He wants to spend more time going through his photos from his visits to DDR. 

 

It would be ideal if the Coalition falls apart and SPD attempts to form a government with Die Linke and AfD  losing half of the members in process. 

Kidding. But in all seriousness, either Scholz will stop scholzing around, either he'll inflict immense damage to German political balance, reputation of German industry, reputation of Germany as an ally and so on. Since I'm under impression that's not something an average German citizen wants or at least approves, SPD's coalition partners will have to do something. 

Scholz already did a big favor to russia, even if he suddenly realizes he cannot obstruct the defence of Ukraine to the extent that would truly freeze the war and award russia with half of Ukraine. Because he successfully demonstrated that vatniks can and will go against their own interests, just to suck up to russia.    

Scholz is playing a dangerous game with the Russians , by refusing to send in tanks , maybe in the hope that Russia will agree to let Germany have oil and gas , his logic is questionable , and that's not helping the E.U. and Germany .

[spud the mackem]

1 hour ago, Helen of Annoy said:

And one more from mordor:

Her poster says: Ukraine, they are not enemies to us, they're brothers.

Imagine the horror. Imagine the danger for the law and order that lies in such outrageous words. 

If you wonder why are these ******s willing to arrest people who did nothing wrong, that's because these ******s are keeping their asses away from death on the frontline. As long as they're obedient servants of the regime, they won't be mobilized. 

Two little b****es detaining a woman. I hope she'll go through this relatively unharmed. I wish I could say I hope she'll live to see a different russia, but I have no such hope at the moment.  

The poor girl ,she's now off to Siberia , for daring to symapthise with Ukraine . 

[el midgetron]

 

 

 

 

[Black Red Devil]

US labels Wagner group an 'international criminal organisation'

The United States has designated the Russian paramilitary Wagner group as a transnational criminal organisation, US national security spokesman John Kirby told reporters on Friday.

"With these actions, and more to come, our message to any company that is considering providing support to Wagner is this: Wagner is a criminal organisation that is committing widespread atrocities and human rights abuses, and we will work relentlessly to identify, disrupt, expose, and target those assisting Wagner," Kirby said.

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Looks like North Korean may be facing more sanctions considering they are providing equipment to the Wagner Group.

[Helen of Annoy]

10 hours ago, spud the mackem said:

Scholz is playing a dangerous game with the Russians , by refusing to send in tanks , maybe in the hope that Russia will agree to let Germany have oil and gas , his logic is questionable , and that's not helping the E.U. and Germany .

Not helping anyone except russians, yes. 

Scholz is playing a stupid, pro-russian, anti-NATO and anti-EUropean game. Ukraine is Europe and Ukraine will be EUrope. What scholzes, orbans and milanovićs can achieve is making it more expensive, in lives and materiel, but they cannot reverse history to favour russia. No one can. 

Despite having the good fortune of living in the West, Scholz was a pro-russian his whole life, making trips to former DDR, being invited as a guest of their current sovietesque regime. Now he's "scholzing" - saying that he supports Ukraine, but doing everything he can to obstruct Ukrainian defence, so that russians manage to keep parts of Ukraine, for which they'll be grateful to him and shower him with favours. Also, that would be a blow to the West, to NATO, which is now obviously his primary goal, consistent with his anti-NATO career.

I paid no particular attention to German domestic politics and superficially, everything looked right. A coalition of sane parties in power, a generic Kanzler, various clowns (such as AfD) marginalized, how nicely boring. Thank god for boring moments in history, seriously. But. But I (naive cow) was wrong. I thought that no one in Germany is that stupid to try repeating Molotov-Ribbentrop (this time with Ukraine instead of Poland), even though I was aware there are people immoral and egocentric they'd fantasize about it.

So I was very wrong about two things: that russians are not that stupid to invade Ukraine and that SPD is not that stupid to make pacts with russians. 

The good news is that SPD depends on the rest of coalition parties who do not approve of sacrificing German reputation, business, prosperity and future for the sake of russians. This situation will bring all the russian infiltration out in the open which is good, but there's no constitutional mechanism that would allow throwing them all out of helicopters onto the Red Square, which is bad. 

Edited January 22 by Helen of Annoy

[Helen of Annoy]

Why russia can't win. Because russian rigid, authoritarian system favours obedient imbeciles. 

 

[Helen of Annoy]

 

[Helen of Annoy]

3 hours ago, Black Red Devil said:

US labels Wagner group an 'international criminal organisation'

The United States has designated the Russian paramilitary Wagner group as a transnational criminal organisation, US national security spokesman John Kirby told reporters on Friday.

"With these actions, and more to come, our message to any company that is considering providing support to Wagner is this: Wagner is a criminal organisation that is committing widespread atrocities and human rights abuses, and we will work relentlessly to identify, disrupt, expose, and target those assisting Wagner," Kirby said.

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Looks like North Korean may be facing more sanctions considering they are providing equipment to the Wagner Group.

It's such a delightful embarrassment for "wagner" that they have fallen so low to buy equipment from NK. 

But NK is China's little obnoxious dog. China wants to distance itself from russian failure, but they apparently still allow direct military cooperation between russia and NK. It's not something that can save russia, but it is something that can associate China with russian failure. (Now I'm naive again, assuming China is not that stupid to associate themselves with russian failure. By the way things work in this century, China will absolutely choose to do the stupidest possible mistake and keep supporting russia through NK, having only damage from that and no profit at all, propaganda or financial.) 

The glorious thing about "wagner" being recognized as international criminal organisation is that their finances can be cut now  Possibly redirected to Ukraine later. (I can't wait to hear western libertardians moan about sanctity of personal property and that the real terrorists are those who would confiscate money acquired by criminal activities and intended for terrorist purposes.)

[Electric Scooter]

12 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said:

Germany has bought Russia a lot of time with its disingenuous help to Ukraine. They sell to every regime and strongman yet not to Ukraine.  

You can see Germany isn`t fully onboard.

Thats why holes were put in the Nord Stream pipeline! Germany is dangerous, its focus is on the rise of the Franco-Prussian empire. Its setup the EU to ensure its rise to superpower status while letting the French provide the military support of the block (due to WW2 sensitivities. Once it is a superpower again it will suddenly come to life.

[Unusual Tournament]

12 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said:

You can see Germany isn`t fully onboard.

Thats why holes were put in the Nord Stream pipeline! Germany is dangerous, its focus is on the rise of the Franco-Prussian empire. Its setup the EU to ensure its rise to superpower status while letting the French provide the military support of the block (due to WW2 sensitivities. Once it is a superpower again it will suddenly come to life.

Interesting rumour about America offering Abrams tanks and cheap updates to any Leo2 operators wanting to give them to Ukraine 

[Grim Reaper 6]

53 minutes ago, Helen of Annoy said:

 

Hello Helen, have you heard this Ukrainian Military Patriotic Song?

They copied and changed the lyrics of ""Ballad of the Green Berets"" to make their song ""One Hundred Warriors" in 2015, it has English Subtitles so everyone can understand it!

It's a great song!

US Song

Ukrainian Version of the above song, and it's really great!

Happy Lunar New Year Helen     January 22, 2023

[+Nuclear Wessel]

20 hours ago, and-then said:

In your theoretical, do you expect NATO troops to flood in to the war zone?

I think it would be peacekeeping operation, so while they would "flood in to the war zone", I don't think it would be in a guns-blazing fashion. I think they would give Russia n amount of time to evacuate from Ukraine, after which point any remaining troops would be considered a threat to NATO and subsequently neutralized, either through arrest or via weaponry.

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More to the point, what reaction would you expect from Russia?

Hard to say what the reaction would be - it would depend on the state of their military. Would military officials uphold their nuclear brinksmanship policy, or would Russia take it on the chin? Frankly, I don't care anymore.

"Let 'er blow", as my dad says.

[Occult1]

Top Russia official threatens West with ‘global catastrophe’ over weapons to Ukraine

''Continued deliveries of arms to Ukraine by its allies in the West will lead to retaliation with “more powerful weapons,” a top official in Russian President Vladimir Putin’s regime said on Sunday.

Vyacheslav Volodin, chairman of Russia’s lower house, the State Duma, threatened Europe and the U.S. with “global catastrophe” over their continued military support to the government in Kyiv, which is trying to continue retaking territory it lost in the Russian invasion.

Volodin directly invoked the use of nuclear weapons in his statement over messaging app Telegram.

https://www.politico.eu/article/top-russia-official-vyacheslav-volodin-threatens-west-with-global-catastrophe-over-weapons-to-ukraine-war/

 

Should the West reconsider sending increasingly more heavy weapons to Ukraine?

Edited January 22 by Occult1

[bmk1245]

1 hour ago, Occult1 said:

Top Russia official threatens West with ‘global catastrophe’ over weapons to Ukraine

''Continued deliveries of arms to Ukraine by its allies in the West will lead to retaliation with “more powerful weapons,” a top official in Russian President Vladimir Putin’s regime said on Sunday.

Vyacheslav Volodin, chairman of Russia’s lower house, the State Duma, threatened Europe and the U.S. with “global catastrophe” over their continued military support to the government in Kyiv, which is trying to continue retaking territory it lost in the Russian invasion.

Volodin directly invoked the use of nuclear weapons in his statement over messaging app Telegram.

https://www.politico.eu/article/top-russia-official-vyacheslav-volodin-threatens-west-with-global-catastrophe-over-weapons-to-ukraine-war/

 

Should the West reconsider sending increasingly more heavy weapons to Ukraine?

Volodin should be reminded of what happened to Nicholas II and his family.

[godnodog]

2 hours ago, Occult1 said:

 

Should the West reconsider sending increasingly more heavy weapons to Ukraine?

should Russia reconsider its illegal behavior?

[+Nuclear Wessel]

2 hours ago, Occult1 said:

Should the West reconsider sending increasingly more heavy weapons to Ukraine?

No. Appeasement to tyrants never had a good outcome. Ever. **** them. If they want to use nukes, then they will feel them.

Also, isnt it rich how they are demanding the West to cease provisions to Ukraine, given how they recently said it wouldn’t make a difference? Funny, that. Seems to reek of desperation. 

Edited January 22 by Nuclear Wessel

[+and-then]

22 hours ago, bmk1245 said:

What you. beta male, expest from alpha female?

Jokes aside, where are your promised nukes? russky territory being assaulted, afterall...

I don't find anything humorous at all about the slaughter.  You people treat this at times like it's a game.  Go and fight, then come back and preach to the rest of us.  I think that everyone in this thread who salivates for the death of thousands of guys who'd rather be ANYWHERE other than Ukraine, have themselves become mentally ill and are on their way to being as evil as they claim Russians are.  I see no difference at all.  

[Occult1]

26 minutes ago, Nuclear Wessel said:

No. Appeasement to tyrants never had a good outcome. Ever. **** them. If they want to use nukes, then they will feel them.

Also, isnt it rich how they are demanding the West to cease provisions to Ukraine, given how they recently said it wouldn’t make a difference? Funny, that. Seems to reek of desperation. 

The problem is that the more powerful the weapons we send to Ukraine, the heavier Russia's response will be. Until a global catastrophe takes place.

There is no end to that.

Edited January 22 by Occult1

[Occult1]

Russia claims more progress in Ukraine's Zaporizhzhia region

''Jan 22 (Reuters) - Russia's defence ministry said for the second straight day on Sunday that its forces were improving their positions in Ukraine's southern Zaporizhzhia region.

"During offensive operations in the direction of Zaporizhzhia, units of the Eastern Military District took up more advantageous ground and positions," the defence ministry said.

It claimed to have inflicted casualties and destroyed equipment including Ukrainian fighting vehicles, howitzers and two U.S.-made HIMARS rockets.''

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-claims-more-progress-ukraines-zaporizhzhia-region-2023-01-22/

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

2 hours ago, Occult1 said:

 

There is no end to that.

There is, actually. 
All the Russians go home, and Putin says “right… so a draw?” and we all go on, pretending it didn’t happen. 

[Helen of Annoy]

You can stop trying, pro-russians, Leopards are going to Ukraine.

Your propaganda efforts were stupid and futile as usual.  

I suggest you focus on showing your grief caused with deaths of russian war criminals who rape children, mutilate prisoners, murder civilians, leave own wounded to die, don't bury own corpses, keep train cars full of corpses to rot in order to avoid paying compensation to the families etc.

Keep saying you see no difference between russian savage crimes and Ukrainian self-defence, so everyone knows you're not to be associated with. 

 

So, the Leopards are going to Ukraine. (Against Scholz's will, and still without official release, and still without Leopards from Germany, but with the guarantee of German Foreign Minister that there will be no objections to deliveries by other countries.) As they should have years ago, or at least a year ago. It's not too late, though.    

 

[jmccr8]

2 hours ago, Occult1 said:

The problem is that the more powerful the weapons we send to Ukraine, the heavier Russia's response will be. Until a global catastrophe takes place.

There is no end to that.

Hi Occult

There have been discussions between Russia and the west months ago and the US agreed to not send long range missiles. What did Russia do, they bombed the crap out of infrastructure and civilian targets. They didn’t quit raping torturing or murdering civilians they increased their criminal acts.

Russia has brought this on themselves and the west nor Ukraine has targeted civilians in Russia nor have they given any indication that they would debase themselves to the criminal behaviour that Russia has. If Russia wants to cry like a bully when they get b!tch slapped to bad they started it and I have no sympathy for them.