Crazy Horse Posted February 27, 2022 #76 Share Posted February 27, 2022 15 hours ago, Nuclear Wessel said: That's not for him to decide, though. You really think that's its a good idea to increase nuclear arms right now, anywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted February 27, 2022 #77 Share Posted February 27, 2022 14 hours ago, thedutchiedutch said: The thing is that putin is a thug, a bully and a murderer. Russia has always been a threat to Ukraine's independence and because of that the relationship with the EU, NATO and the US has deepened over the years. Can you blame the Ukraine ? Instead of continuing a political standoff, vlad chooses to literally go to war and jeopardize thousands of innocent lives. Russia is the aggressor here. In regards to Cuba, are you referring to the Cuban missile crisis of 1962? That was the Soviet Union building nuclear missile sites not China. Anyways. The US would not be happy and we would be faced with another political standoff I guess. Its not really a political stand-off when NATO, and the EU, are heading your way. Russia has always been the prize, ask Napoleon, and Hitler, how they managed? The fact is that the US promised not to move eastwards, they lied, they are the aggressors. And yes, I know it was the Soviets in Cuba, but today it would be more realistic to suggest China, seeing as how the SU no longer exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted February 27, 2022 #78 Share Posted February 27, 2022 14 hours ago, Helen of Annoy said: Because I had it up to *here* with stupid kissers of Putin's ass. He's been murdering journalists and opposition for decades, now he's moved on to murdering whole countries. The times when his apologists in the West might have been seen as mere weirdos, to be tolerated because of tolerant principles, are gone. He made it end. Disinformation is one of the main tools of every fifth column. Insisting that Putin is somehow a poor innocent victim of NATO is bizarrely stupid. He is the aggressor in Ukraine, a country that did exactly nothing to provoke a war. Ukraine is being attacked by Putin because he's got irrational imperialist dream of expanding Russia. Not even one week ago, the Ukrainian president asked, demanded, nuclear weapons for Ukraine, which was the last straw for Putin. But I agree with you about the fifth column propagandists, the BBC is going ballistic right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted February 27, 2022 #79 Share Posted February 27, 2022 13 hours ago, Tatetopa said: Man, I hope you are young and get to live a long life. I wouldn't want you to die stupid. Thanks mate, I really appreciate that, but life is eternal. Its all one to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted February 27, 2022 #80 Share Posted February 27, 2022 29 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said: You really think that's its a good idea to increase nuclear arms right now, anywhere? Well, he IS a nuclear weasel, I expect he wants all his friends in the Wild Woods to have them as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted February 27, 2022 #81 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Just now, Sir Wearer of Hats said: Well, he IS a nuclear weasel, I expect he wants all his friends in the Wild Woods to have them as well Yeah, I did notice that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted February 27, 2022 #82 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Sky News reporting that Putin has got Russian news outlets telling their people its not a war, just an operation. 30 mins ago they also hit a Ukrainian oil/gas refinery, and there have been fire fights all night long in Kiev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted February 27, 2022 #83 Share Posted February 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said: Sky News reporting that Putin has got Russian news outlets telling their people its not a war, just an operation. 30 mins ago they also hit a Ukrainian oil/gas refinery, and there have been fire fights all night long in Kiev. There was footage yesterday of a reporter asking a little old Russian lady about the invasion and she tore the reporter a new one saying it’s not an invasion and to stop telling lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted February 27, 2022 #84 Share Posted February 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said: Sky News reporting that Putin has got Russian news outlets telling their people its not a war, just an operation. 30 mins ago they also hit a Ukrainian oil/gas refinery, and there have been fire fights all night long in Kiev. Perhaps you have a view about the closing of Nord Stream 1 and 2, and how that is going to effect Russia? I mean, its going to destroy the European economy at some point, but Russia will sell to China. All those folks who voted for NATO are going to get cold comfort, if any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted February 27, 2022 #85 Share Posted February 27, 2022 29 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said: Thanks mate, I really appreciate that, but life is eternal. Its all one to me. Good to hear. I hope you find your best state. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted February 27, 2022 #86 Share Posted February 27, 2022 The Russians may prevail in Ukraine--but it won't be a victory. The atrocities inflicted are already motivating NATO/EU countries to take steps thought unthinkable just 48 hours ago. Covert help is becoming overt and some seem edging closer to openly joining the fray in some capacity. Isolated, sanctioned, cut off from Western economies, If subduing Ukraine is this hard, the occupation will bleed Russian coffers dry. Czar Putin has destroyed Russia and replaced it with his dark fantasies of resurrecting the Soviet Empire with the maniacal ruthlessness of Ivan the Terrible. It's bewildering Russians could let themselves slip back in history to such a darker age, that they're not yet weaned from what comfort they find in strongman leadership and the peace of the gun. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted February 27, 2022 #87 Share Posted February 27, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said: Perhaps you have a view about the closing of Nord Stream 1 and 2, and how that is going to effect Russia? I mean, its going to destroy the European economy at some point, but Russia will sell to China. All those folks who voted for NATO are going to get cold comfort, if any. Russia has signed trade agreements with China meaning it will be short-term disruption for them for their oil/gas/coal industries. I just got on Pravda and RT News. Its like a parallel universe on their sites. They say Russian forces are surrounding Kiev to cut it off from the West in a blockade, that Belarus is threating to cut fuel and supplies off, and if they do then it will be 5 days before Ukraine runs dry. They also have China calling the USA the biggest threat to world peace, and they are working with North Korea to boost its economy. Apparently China is assessing the situation to decide if its going to make a move on Taiwan. They also have footage of Russian and Ukrainian soldiers side by side, running places like Chernobyl. Edited February 27, 2022 by Cookie Monster 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted February 27, 2022 #88 Share Posted February 27, 2022 (edited) Could the reason for Russia giving soldiers gas masks have been a pre-plan to hit that oil depot/refinery? They are stopping firefighters getting there. TOS systems being moved in at 5.30: Edited February 27, 2022 by Cookie Monster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen of Annoy Posted February 27, 2022 #89 Share Posted February 27, 2022 I'm just dropping by to say to Putin's fifth column that entire Eastern Europe will never forget who you are and what you did. Even if your midget nukes us, we already won. Croats say that forever lives the one who dies honorably. Slava Ukraini while you can go **** yourself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godnodog Posted February 27, 2022 Author #90 Share Posted February 27, 2022 8 hours ago, and then said: I'm sure that he has control over a government full of apparatchiks but if he faces elections, these actions are going to take him down. Elections? You mean actual fraudulent elections? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godnodog Posted February 27, 2022 Author #91 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Just heard in tv that Germany will creat a fund for military spending around 100k million Euros (not sure if I heard correctly), and will start spending over 2% year GDP. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen of Annoy Posted February 27, 2022 #92 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Correct. https://www.dw.com/en/germanys-reversal-on-ukraine-weapons-policy-response-to-putins-aggression/a-60932652 Wir werden nicht ruhen, bis der Frieden in Europa gesichert ist! (We will not rest until peace is secured in Europe!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Razman Posted February 27, 2022 #93 Share Posted February 27, 2022 4 hours ago, Cookie Monster said: Could the reason for Russia giving soldiers gas masks have been a pre-plan to hit that oil depot/refinery? They are stopping firefighters getting there. TOS systems being moved in at 5.30: Are you on Russia's side? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godnodog Posted February 27, 2022 Author #94 Share Posted February 27, 2022 (edited) Manifestation in Saint Petersburg . Unfortunately Riot police on the streets Edited February 27, 2022 by godnodog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted February 27, 2022 #95 Share Posted February 27, 2022 This just in from CNN: "Putin orders deterrence forces — which includes nuclear arms — to be put on high alert" From CNN’s Vasco Cotovio and Nathan Hodge in Moscow 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted February 27, 2022 #96 Share Posted February 27, 2022 1 minute ago, pallidin said: This just in from CNN: "Putin orders deterrence forces — which includes nuclear arms — to be put on high alert" From CNN’s Vasco Cotovio and Nathan Hodge in Moscow Putin wants to overtake Hitler in the history books? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted February 27, 2022 #97 Share Posted February 27, 2022 On 2/25/2022 at 11:08 AM, godnodog said: Its on the news right now You are about the umpteenth person on this forum to speculate Putin's 'sanity'. Why do you think that is? Because the Media tells you what to think and you believe them. Russia can say whatever they want to say. Saber rattling...nothing more...nothing less. If you feel it is all 'reality'...you seriously need to reconsider the whole Its on the news right now mindset. Who gives a flying caboochi what is on the 'news'? The real news is Russia attacked Ukraine. That's all there is to say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted February 27, 2022 #98 Share Posted February 27, 2022 6 hours ago, Crazy Horse said: Its not really a political stand-off when NATO, and the EU, are heading your way. Russia has always been the prize, ask Napoleon, and Hitler, how they managed? The fact is that the US promised not to move eastwards, they lied, they are the aggressors. And yes, I know it was the Soviets in Cuba, but today it would be more realistic to suggest China, seeing as how the SU no longer exists. The interesting thing is that the SU never existed...it was all Russia...and no Union. When they roll their tanks into your country and bomb your cities and say...Good Morning Comrade...Welcome to the new Russian Union... ...and that is exactly what Ukraine is about. Doesn't have a damn thing to do with anything more than retaking that which they lost...one country at a time. Russia will not attack a NATO country because that would be World War. There is a reason the Ukraine is not a NATO member. I'm not speculating what that reason is...I am just saying that there is one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godnodog Posted February 27, 2022 Author #99 Share Posted February 27, 2022 21 minutes ago, pallidin said: This just in from CNN: "Putin orders deterrence forces — which includes nuclear arms — to be put on high alert" From CNN’s Vasco Cotovio and Nathan Hodge in Moscow Yeah, it was also on the news here too. I hope governments do not get intimidated. No one is attacking Russia, Russians need to take out Putin, words I never expected to write. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted February 27, 2022 #100 Share Posted February 27, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, godnodog said: Yeah, it was also on the news here too. I hope governments do not get intimidated. No one is attacking Russia, Russians need to take out Putin, words I never expected to write. Agreed. For some insane reason Putin is saying that any country supporting Ukraine's resistance to this illegal, barbaric, territorial-grabing invasion is attacking Russia. There is something seriously wrong with that mentality, because no-one is threatening Russia. Instead, the efforts are to assist the sovereignty of Ukraine. Edited February 27, 2022 by pallidin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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