Garry B. Posted April 25, 2022 #1 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Hi all, I am a researcher in this field and have been active since the 1990's. I am a marine electronics tech who works in the commercial and military sectors. I have designed sensors for underwater acoustic imaging among other things. I deployed customised remote autonomous equipment beginning in 2017 to monitor a lake here in the north east said to be inhabited by a very large aquatic animal and I can confirm that it does indeed exist. I have a number of still images of this creature under the surface, breaking the surface and above the surface as well as images of the disturbances it makes. Whatever these things are they have a large layered carapace and a neck that can extend well out in front of the body. They also have an elongated snout and bulbous 'nose'. I will not be posting everything I have here but I will post some images going forward. These were taken at great personal expense in time and money. Regards Garry B. 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz_Light_Year Posted April 25, 2022 #2 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Thar be Whales thar. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the frog Posted April 25, 2022 #3 Share Posted April 25, 2022 mmmm.... you describe a snapping turtles, they can be quite big and are well known. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry B. Posted April 25, 2022 Author #4 Share Posted April 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jon the frog said: mmmm.... you describe a snapping turtles, they can be quite big and are well known. Hi, Increase the size of that by a factor of about 15. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the frog Posted April 25, 2022 #5 Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Garry B. said: Hi, Increase the size of that by a factor of about 15. Regards We will need some proof... like good proof. Edited April 25, 2022 by Jon the frog 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted April 25, 2022 #6 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Hi Garry B, welcome to UM! Your story sounds interesting. Just a head's up... we tend to have world-class skeptics here so buckle up and enjoy the ride 6 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted April 25, 2022 #7 Share Posted April 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Garry B. said: Hi all, I am a researcher in this field and have been active since the 1990's. I am a marine electronics tech who works in the commercial and military sectors. I have designed sensors for underwater acoustic imaging among other things. I deployed customised remote autonomous equipment beginning in 2017 to monitor a lake here in the north east said to be inhabited by a very large aquatic animal and I can confirm that it does indeed exist. I have a number of still images of this creature under the surface, breaking the surface and above the surface as well as images of the disturbances it makes. Whatever these things are they have a large layered carapace and a neck that can extend well out in front of the body. They also have an elongated snout and bulbous 'nose'. I will not be posting everything I have here but I will post some images going forward. These were taken at great personal expense in time and money. Regards Garry B. Looking forward to seeing this. Is this Champ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davros of Skaro Posted April 25, 2022 #8 Share Posted April 25, 2022 You will find a couple of suckers here. 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethrofloyd Posted April 25, 2022 #9 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Hi and welcome Garry B. Don't be discouraged. The guys just need good, solid proof. I hope, you have that. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoldenBoy Posted April 25, 2022 #10 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Proof before truth 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlookerofmayhem Posted April 25, 2022 #11 Share Posted April 25, 2022 7 hours ago, Garry B. said: I will not be posting everything I have here but I will post some images going forward. What's the point then? Are you going to post the best photos you have? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davros of Skaro Posted April 25, 2022 #12 Share Posted April 25, 2022 4 hours ago, onlookerofmayhem said: Are you going to post the best photos you have? It will probably look something like this: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openozy Posted April 25, 2022 #13 Share Posted April 25, 2022 People need monsters. Even little kids collect toy ones. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry B. Posted April 25, 2022 Author #14 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Hi All, Nothing wrong with being sceptical. Except for a very few times I have gone on an 'expedition' with others I pretty much work alone. Why?? Because what I believe constitutes good evidence and what some others do are often at opposites. In other words I myself am sceptical of much of the so called 'evidence' I see out there. Any images I post will be devoid of most metadata so that I can always point to my files as the originating source. I will note general changes in image scale, rotation, enhancement etc. I will also try to provide proof of scale, for instance boat image overlays with common reference points when available. Hopefully I will have time to post some stuff tonight 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry B. Posted April 25, 2022 Author #15 Share Posted April 25, 2022 11 hours ago, stereologist said: Looking forward to seeing this. Is this Champ? Good guess, Maybe,, maybe not. There are at least 4 lakes in that area that are contenders. They were part of the same marine system not all that long ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry B. Posted April 25, 2022 Author #16 Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, onlookerofmayhem said: What's the point then? Are you going to post the best photos you have? No. The best images I have will be for closed door review by scientists / biologists of my choosing. BTW, I have video provided to me by another showing one under their boat. That one I had to sign my ass away on. Nothing will be provided on that for now except description. Details in that vid match details in some of my images. Edited April 25, 2022 by Garry B. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted April 25, 2022 #17 Share Posted April 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, Garry B. said: No. The best images I have will be for closed door review by scientists / biologists of my choosing. BTW, I have video provided to me by another showing one under their boat. That one I had to sign my ass away on. Nothing will be provided on that for now except description. Details in that vid match details in some of my images. You mean people you can pay to say what you want. That's how science works. Pay to win. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry B. Posted April 25, 2022 Author #18 Share Posted April 25, 2022 1 minute ago, XenoFish said: You mean people you can pay to say what you want. That's how science works. Pay to win. Not quite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted April 25, 2022 #19 Share Posted April 25, 2022 13 hours ago, and then said: Hi Garry B, welcome to UM! Your story sounds interesting. Just a head's up... we tend to have world-class skeptics here so buckle up and enjoy the ride Everyone should be a skeptic when an unknown person shows up with extraordinary claims with no evidence yet. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlookerofmayhem Posted April 25, 2022 #20 Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Garry B. said: No. The best images I have will be for closed door review by scientists / biologists of my choosing. Unfortunate as that is, for us, what's the point? What's with all the teasing? Why didn't you post at least a single image with your OP? Your plan is to show us not so good images and tell us you have better ones that you aren't going to post here? That's pretty convenient and illogical. Again, I don't see in a point in doing that. Don't get me wrong Garry. It's an interesting claim, but you're not starting out very convincingly. To this point you've just been dangling a carrot. 4 hours ago, Garry B. said: BTW, I have video provided to me by another showing one under their boat. That one I had to sign my ass away on. Nothing will be provided on that for now except description. Details in that vid match details in some of my images. Will you be providing that video at any point, or just telling us that it exists? Edited April 25, 2022 by onlookerofmayhem Clarity 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted April 25, 2022 #21 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Wait a minute. Mike Lindell, is that you? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted April 25, 2022 #22 Share Posted April 25, 2022 You've allegedly documented only one of these creatures? What lake specifically have you documented this information at? Based on your imaging or scans, what are the estimated dimensions of this thing? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davros of Skaro Posted April 25, 2022 #23 Share Posted April 25, 2022 30 minutes ago, Trelane said: You've allegedly documented only one of these creatures? What lake specifically have you documented this information at? Based on your imaging or scans, what are the estimated dimensions of this thing? Thicker than a man's thigh. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted April 25, 2022 #24 Share Posted April 25, 2022 6 hours ago, Garry B. said: Hi All, Nothing wrong with being sceptical. Except for a very few times I have gone on an 'expedition' with others I pretty much work alone. Why?? Because what I believe constitutes good evidence and what some others do are often at opposites. In other words I myself am sceptical of much of the so called 'evidence' I see out there. Any images I post will be devoid of most metadata so that I can always point to my files as the originating source. I will note general changes in image scale, rotation, enhancement etc. I will also try to provide proof of scale, for instance boat image overlays with common reference points when available. Hopefully I will have time to post some stuff tonight I see you in several posts. So far, you have only talked the talk about pics and proof. hmmmm.... Are you selling books or detector equipment? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davros of Skaro Posted April 25, 2022 #25 Share Posted April 25, 2022 51 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said: I see you in several posts. So far, you have only talked the talk about pics and proof. hmmmm.... Are you selling books or detector equipment? Could be a pitch for a show for some streaming service? I heard of a program with some guy screaming in the woods allegedly talking to Bigfoot has a show on some 24/7 cryptid channel. It should be called "The People That Cannot See Nonsense For What It Is Channel", but then again there's Pureflix. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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