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Canadian farmer recalls 'terrifying' Bigfoot encounter


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8 hours ago, jethrofloyd said:

 

 

 

@Earl.Of.Trumps can you show as a map of States with BF's? I may be wrong, but it seems to me Hawaii is the only state without a 'bigfoot sighting'.

 


Yes, it can be shown but as you can imagine, since BigFoot is not a recognized animal creature, there are many maps that do conflict, so I'd rather not. 
I have seen it it that - yes, Hawaii is the only state that has zero BF reports. The states with bears has changed over time so that too is messy

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I think the map is USA heavy just because there's so many more people. And those people feel like they need to report stuff. I feel like a Canadian would just shrug and go on about his business.

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The OP is a very interesting story. One id not heard before. So thanks! :nw:

I do wonder how tall it was supposed to be if head and shoulders higher then the shed. Maybe 9 feet tall?

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On 5/4/2022 at 5:40 AM, jethrofloyd said:

 

 

 

@Earl.Of.Trumps can you show as a map of States with BF's? I may be wrong, but it seems to me Hawaii is the only state without a 'bigfoot sighting'.

 

So, we have proof that Bigfoot cannot swim. We're getting closer! 

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58 minutes ago, Hyperionxvii said:

So, we have proof that Bigfoot cannot swim. We're getting closer! 

Footie apparently can't breech the border wall either.  

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1 hour ago, DieChecker said:

Except the Great Plains states, its a pretty good match. :tu:


To me, there is a strong piece of evidence in looking at that data from the Plains States. If all BigFoot reports are made by hoaxers all over America,
how come the people in the Plains States do not likewise have some fun making bogus BF reports?? 

hmmmm, maybe the people we *think* are hoaxers, really aren't. ;)

 

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1 hour ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:


 If all BigFoot reports are made by hoaxers all over America . . . 
 

 

Yeah, who's claiming this?

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14 hours ago, Resume said:

Yeah, who's claiming this?

There was a thread a while back about it. The OP of that thread was of a notion that there is an active world-wide organization of BF hoaxers, and they hoaxed every BF report over at least the last couple hundred years.

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17 hours ago, Resume said:

Yeah, who's claiming this?


They have to be all fake, because it only takes ONE such report to be the truth and that proves that BF exists. And I know you don't want that.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:


They have to be all fake, because it only takes ONE such report to be the truth and that proves that BF exists. 

 

 

 

No, they don't all have to be fake; some could just be mis-identifications, etc.  Here are your words:

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 If all BigFoot reports are made by hoaxers all over America . . . 

Also, I wish you'd stop strawmanning my positions:

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And I know you don't want that.

You have no clue as to what I want

What I think is that the footie hypothesis is silly, as is the pseudoscience which surrounds it.  Now, as any skeptic should, I would eat those words if sufficient evidence surfaced (like a body, a piece of a body, bone, fossils, etc) but I shall not hold my breath for fear of turning purple.  I am confident there is no bigfoot, though not 100% certain, because I do not believe in complete certainty, but am willing to change my viewpoint the moment the evidence demands.

And that's what I want.

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3 hours ago, rashore said:

There was a thread a while back about it. The OP of that thread was of a notion that there is an active world-wide organization of BF hoaxers, and they hoaxed every BF report over at least the last couple hundred years.

Thanks. A link to that claim would have cleared things up.

 

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On 5/23/2022 at 3:40 PM, Resume said:

No, they don't all have to be fake; some could just be mis-identifications, etc.  Here are your words:


I don't think so. This is why it was important to look at the states where bears exist and where they don't. It is clear that in states where there are no bears, we still get
BF reports in nominal amounts. So let us forget about mis-identifications, shall we? Besides an actual BF sighting, that leaves only the one explanation... fakery.

I am not at all confident that all BF reports are due to fakery. Can't go there. 

 

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16 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:


I don't think so. This is why it was important to look at the states where bears exist and where they don't. It is clear that in states where there are no bears, we still get
BF reports in nominal amounts. So let us forget about mis-identifications, shall we?

No, we shan't, that's just laughably absurd; bears aren't necessary for mis-identifications, a blackened tree stump will do.  All sorts of things are mis-identified all the time.  You can't just wave away this possibility.  For crissake, a self-proclaimed footie expert mis-identified moose prints as those made by footie-foo-foo.

16 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

Besides an actual BF sighting, that leaves only the one explanation... fakery.

Nope, false dichotomy.  (Apologies to that one poster who dislikes me pointing out this particular fallacy)

16 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

I am not at all confident that all BF reports are due to fakery. Can't go there. 

And no reasonable person I know would suggest all footie reports are faked, so no need to really go there.

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On 5/23/2022 at 2:02 AM, XenoFish said:

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They don't seem to jump the border into Mexico.:gun:.

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22 minutes ago, openozy said:

They don't seem to jump the border into Mexico.:gun:.

Ahem . . .  post #32.

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21 hours ago, Resume said:

No, we shan't, that's just laughably absurd; bears aren't necessary for mis-identifications, a blackened tree stump will do.  All sorts of things are mis-identified all the time.  You can't just wave away this possibility.  For crissake, a self-proclaimed footie expert mis-identified moose prints as those made by footie-foo-foo.

I see. Do tree stumps and shadows roar like a freight train and run like a deer? At some point you have to agree that many sightings of BF include accounts of said beast running, roaring etc.
Also, voice recordings and footprints are sometimes great evidence, depending. There's a lot going on there and just sloughing off evidence without examination is not really kosher, IMO

 

21 hours ago, Resume said:

Nope, false dichotomy.  (Apologies to that one poster who dislikes me pointing out this particular fallacy)

And no reasonable person I know would suggest all footie reports are faked, so no need to really go there.

That's a relief. me tired :-)

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43 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

I see. Do tree stumps and shadows roar like a freight train and run like a deer?

Nope.  But deer run like a deer and in addition to people mis-identifying things they also mis-hear things.  This is observed, verified phenomena.  You know what isn't a verified phenomenon?  Three guesses.

43 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

At some point you have to agree that many sightings of BF include accounts of said beast running, roaring etc.

First let me call out your tautology here: Alleged footie sightings, until such a thing is independently.  Secondly, who says people don't hear and see things that aren't there?  Again, this is mundane, observed phenomena.

43 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

 

43 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

Also, voice recordings and footprints are sometimes great evidence, depending.

They would be when such footie behaviors/attributes are reliably observed, verified and attested to independently.  Right now they're just more unverified, untestable claims in the box with all the rest of the unverified, untestable claims.

43 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

There's a lot going on there and just sloughing off evidence without examination is not really kosher, IMO

Yes, your opinion is there is a lot going on, but the evidence provided for footie thus far has fallen far short of spurring any real, sustained scientific interest.  And if you think that a novel primate discovery wouldn't be of interest number of scientific disciplines, wouldn't be an giant advancement in our understanding of human evolution, you are sadly mistaken.  

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Imnsho the older the "story" the more likely its mule muffins, and people who wait decades to tell a tale have hurt their credibility and integrity with me.

In the 70s as a young bat i loved reading about weird stuff and one tale that stuck with me was a newspaper story of "Jacko" claimed to have been captured in a cage and likely a young bigfoot but when this happened the term "bigfoot" hadnt come out yet that had to wait for the wallace hoax tracks which true believers still denounce as being a hoax.

I admit i was crest fallen when i learned the Jacko story was made up likely to sell papers and get visitors to the area, not uncommon of papers in those days.

I just pulled it up to include here the wiki on Jacko

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacko_hoax

The late Grover krantz said some asinine things but to say JoJo was jacko...wow!

I dont know what the treads stories guts hunted if it even happened but i dont think it was a bigfoot.

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