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The Vaccine Mandates proved we have no rights to bodily autonomy


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There are already 17 vaccines that are mandatory for all servicemembers,” said Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., who chairs the Armed Services Personnel Subcommittee. “This is a military readiness issue — the COVID vaccine will keep our troops healthier, safer, and ready to fight when called upon.”

 

https://rollcall.com/2021/10/19/senators-call-to-suspend-pentagon-vaccine-mandate-sets-up-clash/

The Hypocrisy is insane.  And it’s not just for the military. She didn’t speak out against the Mandates during Biden’s OSHA Mandates either. You can’t be for Bodily Autonomy and then take them in less then 6 months. Sorry it doesn’t work like that. Why didn’t Roe Vs Wade stop the Mandates in the 1st place? If Roe vs Wade is all about bodily autonomy then Roe vs Wade should have applied to all Court Cases across the United States fighting the Vaccine Mandates. And yet it didn’t mean ****. We don’t have a bodily autonomy and we never did. Roe vs Wade is based on a lie. 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, zep73 said:

Weren't the vaccine mandates job-related? Meaning you could just quit your job, if you didn't want the vaccines? Not much forcing in that. Inconvenient maybe, but totally voluntary.

Yep, and in the U.S. military service is voluntary.  You don't want the vaccines, you don't join the military.   As for Roe vs Wade, that is not the same as vaccines.   No where in the U.S. has anyone been mandated to take the covid 19 vaccine by law, it has been employers who required it.

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10 minutes ago, zep73 said:

Weren't the vaccine mandates job-related? Meaning you could just quit your job, if you didn't want the vaccines? Not much forcing in that. Inconvenient maybe, but totally voluntary.

If you worked for the Federal Government you didn’t have a Choice. If you worked for a Company with over 100 people, you didn’t have a Choice. 

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6 minutes ago, stevemagegod said:

If you worked for the Federal Government you didn’t have a Choice. If you worked for a Company with over 100 people, you didn’t have a Choice. 

Read what you're responding to.

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11 minutes ago, stevemagegod said:

If you worked for the Federal Government you didn’t have a Choice. If you worked for a Company with over 100 people, you didn’t have a Choice. 

I work for a company with 300 + emplooyees and we were not required to take the vaccine.   Maybe some companies, but not all.   And the feds even had to make dispensation and allow those who did not get vaccinated to be mandated to wear a mask.   

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By MANDATE in many locations, you either complied or you became a second-class citizen.  Until people stand up and say NO!  It will only continue to get worse.  IOW, government is doing what they ALWAYS have done.  It's time to put the brakes on.  If a massive campaign of civil disobedience is employed, they will have NO WAY to enforce their tyranny and YEAH it IS tyranny.

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Since I am against vaccine mandates and pro choice does that mean I get bonus points ? Lol

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Self employment has its benefits.

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23 minutes ago, and then said:

By MANDATE in many locations, you either complied or you became a second-class citizen.  Until people stand up and say NO!  It will only continue to get worse.  IOW, government is doing what they ALWAYS have done.  It's time to put the brakes on.  If a massive campaign of civil disobedience is employed, they will have NO WAY to enforce their tyranny and YEAH it IS tyranny.

Are you talking about bars and restaraunts?   Airlines didn't require or mandate a vaccine in order to fly, so who are you talking about?   If it was a private business you can take your business elsewhere.

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Does the Constitution explicitly say that citizens will never be required to get a vaccine or wear a mask? Then according to current judicial thinking, it is not protected.

27 minutes ago, and then said:

IOW, government is doing what they ALWAYS have done. 

This seems to shock you.   It is what governments do, it is what every single government has always done.  There is no Constitutional guarantee against the government passing laws that apply to all citizens equally, even if you don't like them.   Now civil disobedience is fine if this is your cause and you are so inclined.  But you will never be rid of government unless you replace it with anarchy.  Of course you could choose an authoritarian leader that agrees with you, but then that makes it easier for the next authoritarian to take power, and you might not like him.  That would only insure that the strong of the moment get their way. 

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3 hours ago, stevemagegod said:

We don’t have a bodily autonomy and we never did.

What did you think the draft was all about?  The govt has the right to draft you into the military, send you into battle and kill you.  If the enemy doesn't do it, that MP behind you with a machine gun will.

By the same token, there is no Constitutional right to life.  The state can falsely find you guilty and execute you without any legal consequences.  And repealing Roe v Wade won't change that.

Doug

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3 hours ago, stevemagegod said:

If you worked for the Federal Government you didn’t have a Choice. If you worked for a Company with over 100 people, you didn’t have a Choice. 

Federal employees did have a choice. 

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Abortions aren't contagious. 

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On 5/6/2022 at 6:54 PM, stevemagegod said:

If you worked for the Federal Government you didn’t have a Choice. If you worked for a Company with over 100 people, you didn’t have a Choice. 

Sure you did. You got another job.

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On 5/6/2022 at 7:35 PM, and then said:

By MANDATE in many locations, you either complied or you became a second-class citizen.  Until people stand up and say NO!  It will only continue to get worse.  IOW, government is doing what they ALWAYS have done.  It's time to put the brakes on.  If a massive campaign of civil disobedience is employed, they will have NO WAY to enforce their tyranny and YEAH it IS tyranny.

If people do not want to get vaccinated they have choices such as being home schooled.

If people do not want to get vaccinated then they can go find a job not requiring a vaccine.

Stop being such a cry baby with the hyperbole.

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There are 31 buisnesses that don't require a vaccine, others do make exemptions https://www.bestcolleges.com/careers/which-companies-require-covid-vaccine/ So this claim of mandatory is nuanced and your statement does not hold weight. In addition the miltary always has had vaccine requirements with exceptions. In fact the Military has 17 vaccines people often take when they enlist as you even show https://www.newsweek.com/list-vaccines-mandated-us-military-covid-1641228 spare the nonsense you undermine your own argument. 

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2 hours ago, Scholar4Truth said:

In addition the miltary always has had vaccine requirements with exceptions

Yep. In Australia, there were a number of shots you had to take. If you didn't want the shot then that was your decision.... but without it you were 'non-deployable' and not 'individually ready'. If you couldn't be deployed then you would generally be discharged.

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How do anti vaxers go with overseas travel? 

Do they skip it or take a huge risk? 

I take it that's not seen a a nefarious act?

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On 5/7/2022 at 10:42 AM, zep73 said:

Weren't the vaccine mandates job-related? Meaning you could just quit your job, if you didn't want the vaccines? Not much forcing in that. Inconvenient maybe, but totally voluntary.

Isn't overturning roe v wade a state by state issue? Meaning you could just travel/move to another state if you want an abortion? Not much forcing you to carry a baby in that. Inconvenient maybe, but totally voluntary if you stay where they are banned

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28 minutes ago, Hugh Mungus said:

Isn't overturning roe v wade a state by state issue? Meaning you could just travel/move to another state if you want an abortion? Not much forcing you to carry a baby in that. Inconvenient maybe, but totally voluntary if you stay where they are banned

Like medical tourism isn't a thing.

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4 minutes ago, Golden Duck said:

Like medical tourism isn't a thing.

It is.

I was using Zep's own argument to show that if vaccine mandates were not an attack on bodily autonomy, then neither is roe v wade 

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4 minutes ago, Hugh Mungus said:

It is.

I was using Zep's own argument to show that if vaccine mandates were not an attack on bodily autonomy, then neither is roe v wade 

Not that @zep73, you , or I are from the USA.

The precedent has already been set when unvaccinated children are excluded from day-care.  It's the right of an employer to manage their WHS and absenteeism risk. Utilitarianism beats the squeaky wheel in this case.

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Hugh Mungus said:

Isn't overturning roe v wade a state by state issue? Meaning you could just travel/move to another state if you want an abortion? Not much forcing you to carry a baby in that. Inconvenient maybe, but totally voluntary if you stay where they are banned

No actually the abortion issue is a Religious issue, where religious domination is being allowed to weaponized and polarize the politics. I believe the only way to solve this issue, is by National Vote and let the chips land were they may.

JIMO

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